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[Guest]

Hmm that really looks like deff.
Well you should defenetely get a fert with higher P and some Mg. If you're in the EU you can probably find the one I'm using. It's made by a company called Nu3 BV Holland or Hydro Agri Rotterdam BV. The product is sold here under the name "Crystalon", although where you are it most likely will have another name. There are several different types, I'm using green crystalon, which is:

N - 18 %
amonia N - 3,3 %
nitrate N - 4,9 %
amide N - 9,8 %
P / P2O5 /- 18 %
K / K2O/ - 18 %
Mg /MgO / - 3%
micros:
boron 0.025 %
iron 0.070 %
manganese 0.040 %
copper 0.010 %
molibdeum 0.0004%
zinc 0.025 %

There's also the yellow type which is:

N - 13 %
amonia N - 8.6 %
nitrate N - 4.4 %
P / P2O5 /- 40 %
K / K2O/ - 13 %

Which might be good for the phosphorous deff, but I haven't triead this one... and it doesn't have Mg in it.

I looked for a site of this company on the web, but I found one that is still under construction, and there no info there. http://www.nu3.biz/.
If you can't find those, or anything else suitable, you could look for single element nutrients. You can find P nutrient under the name TripleSuperPhosphate (TSP), or by chem formulae P2O5 (should sound something like DiPhosphorousPentaOxide, but I'm not very sure about that). Mg only fert is MgO (this one should be MagnesiumOxide).
Those you can find for sure, they're sold all over the world, and the formulaes are the same everywhere.
As far as I know crushed bones are a good natural source of P, but they are absorbed slowly. And in this situation you don't need slow absorbtion.

I really hope all goes well, good luck.

 

[StonedGrunt55]

I Got one that is 18-18-18 but never tried it, i'm gonna try buying something better but i find nothing then i'll use it .

 

[SumHumFun]

This thread is the first thing any grower (new/old/in/out/etc.) should read before even looking at a seed or a clone...
I came here because of BOG's book...
Too bad he isn't the regular he once was
Info like this will keep me coming back regularly
Thank you MynameStitch

 

[budvapor]

awesome thread! thanks MynameStitch!

 

[magoo420]

THANKS STITCH, YOU HELPED ME MORE THAN ANYONE ....EVERYTHING IS OK NOW THANKS TO YOU

 

[StonedGrunt55]

yeah this thread kicksass, it helped solve all the problems i had during this run. Thanks to MynameStitch & HER good work
This is a thread that evry grower should look in especially noobs like me...

 

[Guest]

StonedGrunt55, I think MyNameIsStitch is a lady
Anyways, I am expiriencing some N def on my flowering plant. I'm not sure what to do (will post pics later), I suppose it is normal at this stage the plant to lose some leaves.
First it was the two biggest and oldest fanleaves, lost their green and became yellow (and those are barely exposed to sun). Well, I cut those. Now other leaves are yellowing, the first leaf of every branch is yellowing.
I feed the plant regullary, even foliar fed those leaves, and they returned a little bit of their green color, but the very next day they were yellow again...
I am not sure if this yellowing is normal or not. Only older wide-bladed leaves are affected, younger thin-bladed leaves are green. I fed the plant enough, and I won't be adding more nutes until sunday. So I guess I'll just wait and see what happens... will the yellowing continue to spread, or will it stop with only those leaves.
I will post some pics tommorow.

 

[StonedGrunt55]

oops! sry then MynameStitch didn't know hehehehe...

 

[MynameStitch]

Hehe thanks for all the kudo's guys!
It's alright stoned I get called a dude all the time no worries
But yes I am female

Blunt how long has you plant been in flowering? Towards the end of flowering you want a N deficiency it just kinda natrual and will use up nitrogen; if you have enough for the entire process when you start flowering towards the end the plant will show a nitrogen deficiency but early into flowering to half way if it shows it' it is deficient but either because there is a lack of or something else is causing it like bug issues or ph issues

post some of your grow information like nutrients how often used and ph how big are your plants how often watered lights and wattage... stuff like that.

 

[StonedGrunt55]

Yeah i'm one of them, i gotta stop saying he,dude,buddy,bro to someone i don't even know if he's male or female ...

 

[GroovySituation]

Amazing guide!!
Thank you so much for all that work Mynamestitch (dont know what to say instead of "buddy" or "bro" lol)that' very helpfull
GS

 

[MynameStitch]

Glad i could be of some assistance It's ok you can call me dude buddy bud bro lol no worries

 

[Guest]

Well, the plant has been flowering for 5 weeks, it enters week 6 now. What's strange is that some leaves look like N def and some look like Mg def (with green veins). Still it is a slow process, the plant has lost about 4 leaves for now, and 6 more are yellowing. I fed it this sunday, still no change... Everything looks healthy as hell except for those leaves, so I guess the plant really wants to get rid of them.

And talking about ferts, as I was reading trough the forum I found out that feeding too much N in flowering is slowing down rippening. So today I got out to the shops in search of a low N fert... And I dont know why but this proved to be impossible! Couldn't find anything close to 10-20-20. Finally I got one liquid fert (claims to be organic) NPK values - 4-6,5-7 + 0,2% boron + copper, manganese, molibdeum, zinc. I bought this one (all ferts here a pretty cheap, even import ones), but I still am not sure if it would be better than the one I'm currently using:
N - 18 %
amonia N - 3,3 %
nitrate N - 4,9 %
amide N - 9,8 %
P / P2O5 /- 18 %
K / K2O/ - 18 %
Mg /MgO / - 3%
micros:
boron 0.025 %
iron 0.070 %
manganese 0.040 %
copper 0.010 %
molibdeum 0.0004%
zinc 0.025 %
Sure this one lacks the Mg, but I can add it with epsom salts. So what do you think... will this one be better or should I stick to the 18-18-18-3 one?

Also I found something very interesting in the store. Saw some little cups with tags saying "Watering Gel"... WTF, looked at the cups but the inscriptions were spanish so I couldn't understand a thing. Only thing I understood was that one linesaying:
K=34, NO3=20, P2O5=27, Na=5, Cu=5... Well it was cheap so I got one.
Came back home and did a little search, the product is called ChupiPlant plus, first result in google was the homepage, and second was this http://www.cannabislandia.com/item/department/87/item/1158
Well if such a site offers it, then it should be usefull. Luckily the homepage of the company has an english version
http://www.chupiplant.com/gb/gb_index2.html
So it says this thingie can provide water and nutrients to your plants for 15 days!!! Woohoo! Well after some more reading it turns out that the bigger the plant the more of this cups it needs... But still it is intriguing, specially for microgrowers, as it claims that 1-2 cups of this stuff can keep a 20cm plant healthy for 15 days with no intervention... 3-4 cups for a 30cm plant and so on. Well for the size of my plants I'll need about 10 cups of this per plant .... Still I wil use this one cup I've got on my outside plant, just out of curiosity

Edit: I searched the forum, but noone seems to have mentioned anything about this ChupiPlant thingie. I might start up a thread about it, because I feel It might be really usefull for microgrowers that want to leave town for a week or two. And the fact that I can buy it where I live, means It most likely can be found in the entire EU... Still it has to be tested, but even if it lasts half the time it claims it should still be good.

 

[Tyler Durden]

Anyone recognize this? From the other thread it looks like N def, given the clawing of the leaves and yellowing, but I use MG tomato, which is like 24-6-18, iirc. I would have thought if anything I was getting too much N. I went ahead and flushed it any way since I picked up some organic nutes from the local head shop. Just wondering if I'm on the right track with the N thing or not, thanks.

 

[Dr. G]

hey anyone know what this is these are two different plants almost 5 weeks


super star

sour bubble bx3

 

[MynameStitch]

Dr G it looks like you burned the hell outta your plants man! Give some grow details..... Lighting wattage how close; nutrients how much and how often used?
Ph ppm's hydro or soiless? soil?

How big are the plants what size pots if grown in soil.......

 

[StonedGrunt55]

mmmh.. I'm not an expert but when i had HEATSTRESS looked exactly the same. Check your temps....with more info MynameStitch will help u better. Goodluck!

 

[MynameStitch]

He has some major issues going on; it's not even the right color of green; he has to be screwing with ph or nutrients cause that plant is blueish hue; I have seen this issue before when the plants had salt buildup; the reason why the edge of the leaves is looking that way is because the tissue was necrotic and then eventually turned the color you see now; the tissue died.

 

[Guest]

YO girlfriend....

I hope you are well these days....


Have you got anything tough in sick plants?????

I hate the 50 post to pm rule.....



yuccck.......

 

[MynameStitch]

!!!!! I sent you a pm see if you can respond since I pmed u!

DAmn 50 posts? I thought it was 25........