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Spider mites AKA The Borg
- Thread starter Flowerman
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Ahh. Experiencing my first spider mite attack. I noticed it last night. Luckily found it early on one plant, just some minor webbing in a couple bottom leaves. They haven't made it to the top yet. I pulled those leaves and a few others. It hasn't spread much beyond her to her sisters.
I've been spraying every 2-3 days with an assortment of pesticides as preventitive (broad mites and pm are an issue); triazacide, organocide(plant doctor) and this morning with a heavy dose of Pyganic.
I hope the Pyganic really knocks them back. But I'm 2-days into flower and there isn't much time before I won't spray anymore. What should I hit them with next? I'm considering Floramite, but I know mites in my area are pretty resistant to that. Thinking more likely hit them with an Aza- product. I could also try the Be Safer Insecticidal soap.
Any recommendations?
Thanks
I've been spraying every 2-3 days with an assortment of pesticides as preventitive (broad mites and pm are an issue); triazacide, organocide(plant doctor) and this morning with a heavy dose of Pyganic.
I hope the Pyganic really knocks them back. But I'm 2-days into flower and there isn't much time before I won't spray anymore. What should I hit them with next? I'm considering Floramite, but I know mites in my area are pretty resistant to that. Thinking more likely hit them with an Aza- product. I could also try the Be Safer Insecticidal soap.
Any recommendations?
Thanks
alternating Mighty Wash and SNS 217 worked wonders for me when I had spider mites a year or 2 back
hear Floramite is the best but awfully expensive
hear Floramite is the best but awfully expensive
Bulénath
Member
Aloha everyone,
This is my first post in over a year. I have been dealing with the mites for about half a year now. Had to shut down shop for a couple months, clean out the entire house and start again from seed. But then the fuckers came back. I cannot explain how clean I am, its along the lines OCD. I go well beyond the spectrum of Medical Aseptic Technique. I shower each time before entering my grow room, and I enter butt naked. I wear disinfected slippers from the shower to the grow room entrance and take off the slippers before entering. Before showering even (and definitely before ever opening the grow room door) I mop the floor of the entire house hold with diluted simple green. I have no house plants or pets. House vacuums and grow room vacuums are seperate, as is all clothes, towels, utensils, etc. I spray around my house with weed killers and pesticides constantly to keep the area secure. Yet these fuckers came back. In my ten years of growing I have never encountered such a nasty little problem like these mites.
I am finally pulling my ass out of the shadows and posting again. Instead of shutting down my entire operation and all that I have worked for in the last ten years, I am fighting back. Just purchased some Floromite and Avid. Am about to purchase some Predator Mites and perhaps Forbid or Judo into the mix. I already have Spinosad and Azamax in my arsenol as well as EM1 to balance things out.
This is my first post in over a year. I have been dealing with the mites for about half a year now. Had to shut down shop for a couple months, clean out the entire house and start again from seed. But then the fuckers came back. I cannot explain how clean I am, its along the lines OCD. I go well beyond the spectrum of Medical Aseptic Technique. I shower each time before entering my grow room, and I enter butt naked. I wear disinfected slippers from the shower to the grow room entrance and take off the slippers before entering. Before showering even (and definitely before ever opening the grow room door) I mop the floor of the entire house hold with diluted simple green. I have no house plants or pets. House vacuums and grow room vacuums are seperate, as is all clothes, towels, utensils, etc. I spray around my house with weed killers and pesticides constantly to keep the area secure. Yet these fuckers came back. In my ten years of growing I have never encountered such a nasty little problem like these mites.
I am finally pulling my ass out of the shadows and posting again. Instead of shutting down my entire operation and all that I have worked for in the last ten years, I am fighting back. Just purchased some Floromite and Avid. Am about to purchase some Predator Mites and perhaps Forbid or Judo into the mix. I already have Spinosad and Azamax in my arsenol as well as EM1 to balance things out.
Bulénath
Member
Thanx vta, thal! Since you both have experience with that stuff, can you tell me if there are any ill effects when using it on seedlings?
So far the combo of No Pest Strips, Spinosad w/EM1 (em1 to add some anti fungal/bacterial properties into the spray) Floramite and Avid seems to be working okay. I have not adjusted the PH of the water before mixing Floramite, don't even know what the PH is as I have never really had any PH problems in 10 years, ever. Perhaps Hawaii just has really good tap water.
I'd like to eventually get to the point where I can take the No Pest Strips out of the equation as I love spending hours with my girls. But I gota say, my room is very devoid of critters since putting up a few in each room.
Although I have Azamax, I am hesitant to spray it because of the Phototoxic properties involved as I had a bad experience before, even though I mixed at 5ml/gal and sprayed before lights off. And because I am growing in a semi-soiless mixture, I am also hesitant to drench with more than 1.5ml/gal, as I too have noticed that a drench at 5ml/gal caused the stems to become a bit brittle. So far, twice I have watered my plants with Azamax at 1 to 1.5 ml/gal for a systemic effect and have noticed no ill effects. Twelve hours after each application, I water in a beneficial microbial mixture of Em1, Spinosad, Serenade, and ZHO. So far so good.
I just purchased some Forbid and and Kontos (spirotetramat). Anyone have any experience with Kontos?
Also, what's a mild spray that is good for seedlings 5-8 days old? I was thinking most of the stuff I have (barring the bacterial based stuff like Spinosad) is too harsh for seedlings. I am looking toward Mighty Wash and SNS217 for seedlings, but would appreciate some input from the community. If Floramite or Avid is okay for seedlings, that would be great, but I can't find any information about that. Any comments on that?
Will keep you posted.
Aloha,
Bom Bulenath
So far the combo of No Pest Strips, Spinosad w/EM1 (em1 to add some anti fungal/bacterial properties into the spray) Floramite and Avid seems to be working okay. I have not adjusted the PH of the water before mixing Floramite, don't even know what the PH is as I have never really had any PH problems in 10 years, ever. Perhaps Hawaii just has really good tap water.
I'd like to eventually get to the point where I can take the No Pest Strips out of the equation as I love spending hours with my girls. But I gota say, my room is very devoid of critters since putting up a few in each room.
Although I have Azamax, I am hesitant to spray it because of the Phototoxic properties involved as I had a bad experience before, even though I mixed at 5ml/gal and sprayed before lights off. And because I am growing in a semi-soiless mixture, I am also hesitant to drench with more than 1.5ml/gal, as I too have noticed that a drench at 5ml/gal caused the stems to become a bit brittle. So far, twice I have watered my plants with Azamax at 1 to 1.5 ml/gal for a systemic effect and have noticed no ill effects. Twelve hours after each application, I water in a beneficial microbial mixture of Em1, Spinosad, Serenade, and ZHO. So far so good.
I just purchased some Forbid and and Kontos (spirotetramat). Anyone have any experience with Kontos?
Also, what's a mild spray that is good for seedlings 5-8 days old? I was thinking most of the stuff I have (barring the bacterial based stuff like Spinosad) is too harsh for seedlings. I am looking toward Mighty Wash and SNS217 for seedlings, but would appreciate some input from the community. If Floramite or Avid is okay for seedlings, that would be great, but I can't find any information about that. Any comments on that?
Will keep you posted.
Aloha,
Bom Bulenath
Benjamin Check
Member
I'm on my second grow and didn't see any of these the first time, but is there any way or product that prevents them? Or is it just a matter of your area, grow room climate, cleanliness, and possible transfer into the garden due to other gardening activities? I don't see any shrubs on my property with those webs and my green thumb is limited to maintaining the current professional landscaping. Now that I know what they are, I realize I've seen those things all over the place! Growing up, my neighbor had a giant bush and half of it was brown as a mofo and covered in silk. I figured it was some kind of spider or moth infestation, but being 10 or so, didn't give it too much thought. Arachnophobia had just come out and so I gave it a wide berth. They chopped it, but does that mean all the little webs I see on low shrubs and ivy plants are frigging spider mites? My neighbor has lots of ivy incorporated in his landscaping and that stuff is ghostly with dew and webs in the AM. I want no parts of that, please and thank you. Should I grab some neem oil from ACE and just give the corners and edges of the room a light application just to be safe? I plan on running this setup for at least a year barring disaster, and as good ol Benjamin franklin said, "an ounce of prevention, is worth a pound of cure." Ironically, I saw some BONIDE neem soap stuff in there the other day on sale for 9 bucks....
Is it working? This is from the abstract:
I ordered some Stethorus punctillum to use with P. persimilis and mighty wash. Persimilis works when the environment is right but these stethorus beetles can fly and very quickly home in on tiny infestations by smell, will eat more eggs too..awesome if they eat them on on my person! got them just to wipe things out quicker but would love for them to stick around, finding other sources of food besides themselves
Nader - I pretty much got rid of them by dunking the whole plant underwater ever day for one week and every 2-3 days for the following 2 weeks. Spinosad can sit in water and last for weeks (so i have read), it seems like light is what kills it's effectiveness.
Systemic feeding did work, but the doses were a mystery. I fried some tiny ones and mites chewed on bigger ones not getting enough. Submerging the whole plant is the only way to know that you got 'em. I did put a bit of spinosad in my bucket.
I did find that the fuckers were having a party at the top of my cab. They don't just stay on the plants.
Diligence can kill them just as good as any chemical.
Systemic feeding did work, but the doses were a mystery. I fried some tiny ones and mites chewed on bigger ones not getting enough. Submerging the whole plant is the only way to know that you got 'em. I did put a bit of spinosad in my bucket.
I did find that the fuckers were having a party at the top of my cab. They don't just stay on the plants.
Diligence can kill them just as good as any chemical.
Don't we all, these little fu@@ers are evil!
So i got some borg too
Gonna hit them with the Mightie wash,as i'm in flower. Sucks, but so is life..)anyone else used the mightie wash with sucess? holla back.
mack.
Yup I have used mighty wash and it does work. I actually sprayed some on a leaf and cheased a bug into it and watched the little f@cker die. It was awesome!!!!! I have a friend who found some kind of organic spray, and it works too. It has neem, citronella, and something else in it. If I can remember I will post the name of it later when I see the bottle.
ivermectin works a charm..
Bulénath
Member
So far so good....
So far so good....
Cant find any new damage to my girls after this routine:
Floramite,
Four days later Avid,
Five days later Floramite again.
During that time I dropped temperatures down to 62f-65f just to make it harder for them bastards to move around.
Also during that time I watered in Azamax twice into the potting medium at a strength of 1.0-1.5ml/gallon.
Still haven't taken the No Pest Strips out of the equation, still haven't tapped into the Kontos and Forbid, but eventually will.
Peace, love and respect,
Bulenath
So far so good....
Cant find any new damage to my girls after this routine:
Floramite,
Four days later Avid,
Five days later Floramite again.
During that time I dropped temperatures down to 62f-65f just to make it harder for them bastards to move around.
Also during that time I watered in Azamax twice into the potting medium at a strength of 1.0-1.5ml/gallon.
Still haven't taken the No Pest Strips out of the equation, still haven't tapped into the Kontos and Forbid, but eventually will.
Peace, love and respect,
Bulenath
I had some @ 5 weeks and, treated once, they came out as they always do. I didn't notice any difference in taste nor smell.
It says you can but....I would just use water in a sprayer to clean off seedlings. Maybe spray the media with the No Spider Mites spay if you're environment has a bad infection....but with seedlings you should be able to wash/spray them off.
Overall...This product worked great. Granted I caught it really early...I found only four webs. I lightly sprayed(at lights off) and haven't seen anything since.
ozman
Member
Hey All,Well I was noticing some stippling on my leaves yesterday.Today I took my magnifying glass and looked at the undersides of the leaves,lo and behold the dam BORG is here.I have tried various other methods in the past.I ordered a product called liquid ladybug, http://www.liquidladybug.com/,I ordered the sample size for $1.99.
I only see it on one plant,it is a little plant just getting started to replace a mother.I hope I can get rid of the borg easy enough since its not a mass infection.
I HATE THE BORG,the little bas@#$ds.Its been many a year since Ive had to deal with them.
I only see it on one plant,it is a little plant just getting started to replace a mother.I hope I can get rid of the borg easy enough since its not a mass infection.
I HATE THE BORG,the little bas@#$ds.Its been many a year since Ive had to deal with them.
Bulénath
Member
Update: dem fuckas came back! Fuck bra it's on now. This is war...
Here's what happened: A week prior to their return, I took the NPS outa the equation because room #1 was a month from harvest, and room #2, well, I gota spend lots of time in there these days (more than the maximum four hours a day). I guess I missed a single mite, and i can now understand the resistance factor.
Just hit the girls with floramite@ 2ml/ gal, and five days later avid @ 2ml/gal. Tomorrow I'm busting out the Forbid. Then the kontos. Shoulda taken these bugs more seriously...
What I need is a daily maintenance style spray akin to EM1, but for mites.
Here's what happened: A week prior to their return, I took the NPS outa the equation because room #1 was a month from harvest, and room #2, well, I gota spend lots of time in there these days (more than the maximum four hours a day). I guess I missed a single mite, and i can now understand the resistance factor.
Just hit the girls with floramite@ 2ml/ gal, and five days later avid @ 2ml/gal. Tomorrow I'm busting out the Forbid. Then the kontos. Shoulda taken these bugs more seriously...
What I need is a daily maintenance style spray akin to EM1, but for mites.
