Spider mites AKA The Borg

[Gardengineer]

Well, the Organocide definetly knocked the numbers down, but for about the last 2 weeks I have seen a increase in numbers again... plus that damn fish oil stinks terribly. The pants I wore when I sprayed it went thru the wash 4 times before the smell was... almost gone. I just broke down and bought an Oz of Floramite, so we'll see how that does. I hate these little bastards...

 

[Citizen024]

Look into Forbid folks, it rocks.1 drop per liter, 2 if your infested. Use it right as you go into flower, then floramite at week 4. If your still wanting more use Dr. DoRights the last couple weeks every couple days.

Should keep em from getting too out of control.

I have become a big fan of Forbid. 4-8 week breakdown, and very effective control. In the same hazard catagory as neem and floramite. And you only have to hit the tops of the leaves, SO much easier. And atomizer/foggers are the only way to go when it comes to spraying anything more then a 2x4 area. Scope the Fogmaster Jr. $100 for a hand fogger which doesn't blow so hard that it knocks plants over. Perfect toy.

 

[RockyMountainHi]

Should keep em from getting too out of control.

I disagree with the "Keep em under control" theory - this is where they can develop immunities to multiple control agents. And that thought makes my head hurt. Really BAD.

I go with the destroy them, destroy their children and then repeat school of thought. And don't' be afraid to repeat again. The secret it to get the adults and kids - and then get the Lil bastards that hatch afterwords. (And get them BEFORE they reach repoductive maturity and lay fresh eggs) Without the second and third rounds - you fail to break the life-cycle, - which leads to repeat breakouts.

They don't call these Lil fuckers the Borg because they serve a collective - they call them the Borg because they can adapt and form immunities quickly to many deterrents.


Spider-mites are not your friends and should be evicted, nuked and fried.



I really hate spider-mites.

No-Pest-Strips can control spidermites, but it's a pretty potent nero-toxin - - There is a really inforamative thread in Rez's breeders section

Floromite is on my order list - with spidermites, if there is a way for them to find a garden - they will eventually.

Good luck.

Spinosad - won't bother the spider-mites but it works great on Thrips. (And most cutworms for you tomato growers.)

OLDBOOTS--- that's a thrip - see above statement /\ /\ /\

 

[h^2 O]

borg....

 

[oldbootz]

i've been waiting for at least 6 weeks now since the last spider mite i saw. every day that passes i check a plant here and there and god dam they are looking gone !

this is how it went

had no respect for them at first. lost a lot of yeild on many plant for 2 harvests. then on the third run since the infection they actually killed my 2 biggest plants! i started to get some respect.

killed all remaining flowering plants

sprayed a product called Ludwigs Rose Spider mite mixture by Margrate Roberts on all the left over plants that were not in flower yet

gave them a weekly spray of that stuff for 3 consecutive weeks

started up a bunch of seeds and clones and tossed em in the flower room (this is whats growing there now).

mites were still an issue but they were greatly decreased in numbers for the next couple weeks.

my plants started flowering and i caught a mite or two on a few of the plants leaves.

so i sprayed with plain water all over the plants once a week and they dried in front of my oscillating fan.

still found some mites 2 weeks later.

then i read up about filling your mister with ice and killing mites with cold water...

haven't used the miticide since. all my plants get ice water mists every week once a week flowering or not and they've disappeared. i cant find one live mite

hopefully it will stay this way

 

[Bazarocka]

Azamax

Azamax

Works everytime---You can use it right up to about three days before harvesting. Its concentrated, I use 1/2 tbsp to a quart of water. $19.95 for a 4 oz bottle which lasts forever. (General Hydroponics) "Unless You Have a Molson Crop" LOL
Really this stuff is good. "Has Never Failed Me".

 

[GET MO]

I won the war on spider mites by using floramite in veg and the azamax in flower. They are no longer a problem for me. Peace.

 

[Gardengineer]

Well, I am waging war again... this time its a little worse.

Flowering plants... 12 total had a moderate amount of mites, its a pain because I go perpetual and all plants at are a different age... so I brought all flowering plants into the shower and really doused them down, got rid of a large majority of the mites just doing that, then hit them w/ a mixture of minced garlic, drop of soap, gallon of water, boiled the garlic water and let it sit, then sprayed... I don't see even close to the amount of mites, but did find one crawler on a flowering plant today... which really bums me out.

Tonight my vegging plants, 28 total will be showered then hit with floramite, but it sounds like if they are still in my flower room I will still be waging war.

Is the Azamax safe to use all the way thru flowering? Is there anything else I can use on the flowering plants? Alcohol/water mix? Anything, I need to kill these bastards.

I have the Organocide that I used before, which worked really well, but the smell was fricken terrible for a few days, even after I washed the plants.

I need to kill these bastards no matter what it takes, I very thoroughly cleaned and actually "re-did" all the walls/ceiling in my flower room, which is totally seperate from the other rooms... cleaned the floors/walls/ceiling with a diluted bleach spray.

Let me know what I need to do... the ones I am very concered about at the flowering plants, I don't want to spray anything on them that will make the final harvest nasty or toxic... I need some advice... thanks!

 

[Gardengineer]

Well, I just went ahead and bought some Avid, Azatrol (Azamax), and Forbid... which will all go along with the Floramite SC that I have already...

Vegging plants are getting a shower and Floramite tonight, hopefully in the next 3-4 days my other stuff will be here so I can hit my flowering plants with the Azatrol, and hit my vegging plants with the Forbid... hope it works, I want to terminate these little fuckers.

 

[RockyMountainHi]

It's concidered best to get the applications timed correctly so any bugs in one area don't migrate to the other "better" area - I'm like you - hit em with what I have -and hit em with the reinforcments when they arrive - and hit em once or twice more.


When in doubt - hit em again.


and again.



Usually two full applications are more than sufficent - I do 3


I fuckin HATE mites

 

[montehierba]

DIPHENOCONAZOLE N PROPICONAZOLE

DIPHENOCONAZOLE N PROPICONAZOLE

I found this sit called so and works great, it comes in spray bottles and is very cheap(evergreencr.com)
If i get it now i just use this stuff twice in a week them forget about em bastards,for long periods of time.best yet in my book.

 

[Gardengineer]

My stuff is on the way to me, shipped this morning.

Vegging plants got their shower and Floramite very thoroughly last night. Was up until 2am doing that. Cleaned the rooms out with a bleach solution also, along with spraying the entire room (whole room is not for growing) down with the bleach solution.

I plan on cutting 3-4 plants tonight or tomm. hope they don't taste too much like garlic... lol. Then the remaining plants in flowering will get the Azatrol/Azamax as soon as it gets here. Once I get that done, the next day I plan on hitting the veggins plants all again with the Forbid before moving some into the flowering room (perpetual)... If I had the room I would let all of my flowering plants finish before moving anything around, but head space, even after training in my veg room is tight as it is. Anyways, another few days after the Forbid, I plan on using the Avid on the vegging plants and plants fresh into flower... and might hit the flowering plants with some Organocide, even though I hate the fish smell from it... didn't seem to effect the taste of my last harvest.

Any pointers I would really appreciate it. I need to eliminate these bastards, and I believe I can with what I've got if I do everything right.

 

[audiohi]

I have to say.... after one of the recommended three applications of azamax, 98% of mites are gone! It's looking like I may finally get them all this time. I give azamax a thumbs up

 

[minds_I]

My stuff is on the way to me, shipped this morning.

Vegging plants got their shower and Floramite very thoroughly last night. Was up until 2am doing that. Cleaned the rooms out with a bleach solution also, along with spraying the entire room (whole room is not for growing) down with the bleach solution.

I plan on cutting 3-4 plants tonight or tomm. hope they don't taste too much like garlic... lol. Then the remaining plants in flowering will get the Azatrol/Azamax as soon as it gets here. Once I get that done, the next day I plan on hitting the veggins plants all again with the Forbid before moving some into the flowering room (perpetual)... If I had the room I would let all of my flowering plants finish before moving anything around, but head space, even after training in my veg room is tight as it is. Anyways, another few days after the Forbid, I plan on using the Avid on the vegging plants and plants fresh into flower... and might hit the flowering plants with some Organocide, even though I hate the fish smell from it... didn't seem to effect the taste of my last harvest.

Any pointers I would really appreciate it. I need to eliminate these bastards, and I believe I can with what I've got if I do everything right.

Hello all,

Brother, not to pee on yoru parade but just arbitrarily spraying with miticides without condsoderation of tolerance build-up may lead to supermites (Mendocino Borg).

Now take this with a grain of salt becuase I have not had to use this (knock wood) but it is my understnading that Avid should be used first and then 3 days later with Floarmite then 4 weeks later with Forbid.


As part of an integrated pest management program it is necessary to rotate these miticides.

They all work differently so developing a supermite (aka Mendocine Borg) is more difficult then repeated apllications of the same miticide.

Just my two cents.

By the way, I have seen Floramite totally destroy a mite infestation in a closet completely with one application....but my bud totally cleaned the closet frm top to bottom and sterilized everything.

He hosed his plants off in the shower before spraying the leaves completely on the top and bottoms.

PITA it was.

Been mite free since and swears he will never bring in a plant from outside the growroom again.

Again, not to pee on your parade, just think a more stringent approach might be more appropriate. In my humble opinion.


minds_I

 

[Gardengineer]

Hello all,

Brother, not to pee on yoru parade but just arbitrarily spraying with miticides without condsoderation of tolerance build-up may lead to supermites (Mendocino Borg).

Now take this with a grain of salt becuase I have not had to use this (knock wood) but it is my understnading that Avid should be used first and then 3 days later with Floarmite then 4 weeks later with Forbid.


As part of an integrated pest management program it is necessary to rotate these miticides.

They all work differently so developing a supermite (aka Mendocine Borg) is more difficult then repeated apllications of the same miticide.

Just my two cents.

By the way, I have seen Floramite totally destroy a mite infestation in a closet completely with one application....but my bud totally cleaned the closet frm top to bottom and sterilized everything.

He hosed his plants off in the shower before spraying the leaves completely on the top and bottoms.

PITA it was.

Been mite free since and swears he will never bring in a plant from outside the growroom again.

Again, not to pee on your parade, just think a more stringent approach might be more appropriate. In my humble opinion.


minds_I

Hey, thanks for the reply. Main reason I did what I did, rather than wait for my other stuff to get here is, mainly time, and I wanted to try to knock them back hard with something before shit got out of hand. However, I have read thru many of the pages here, but not all of them, I didn't know there was a specific sequence in using the products... but, I figured hitting them (flowering) with a shower, a garlic spray, then 3-4 days later the Azamax, and then again with Organocide, I am hoping should eliminate them... and for the vegging plants, a shower, then floramite, 3-4 days later Avid or Forbid (I will use the Avid first), and then the Forbid after that, and maybe even the Azamax on them when the first go into flowering. Hoping that will do it, and I have cleaned everything pretty thoroughly with bleach water... I guess I'll keep my fingers crossed and hope like hell these products do it.

And agreed on the outdoor plant thing, I think what happened with me is... my good buddy had a couple small plants going that he brought in from outside, his had mites, I didn't know until later, but he came over and I think they might have hitched a ride on them... I never had a problem with any pests until shortly after he came over, and then told me he had mites.

Oh, fully submerged my 10 smaller plants in the Floramite solution tonight also.

 

[oldbootz]

OLDBOOTS--- that's a thrip - see above statement /\ /\ /\

actually thats a tiny preying mantis...

they are my little defenders for outdoor plants

 

[Ghostwolf]

I have used a chewing tobacco tea with a very little dish soap sprayed into the affected leaves(I always find them early on, so never had any on the buds)top of and under neath. It has always worked for my inside grows.

 

[Yeti]

My mother always used a tea made from dried stinging nettles to combat any sort of infestation. When I lived with her and smoked a pack a day she'd save a few cigarette butts and throw those in her tea as well. Never ever had a runin with the borg.

 

[W.P.]

Good luck to all!!!! Floramite is hands down the way to go!!! (only in veg)

 

[Goyakla]

Good luck to all!!!! Floramite is hands down the way to go!!! (only in veg)

nekotin in the soil will do it... or boil some "tee" with cigareets and use it. And better get a spider.. they will eat them all... I have tried the spider and she is a killer.. good luck.