SOUR DUBBLE INFO THREAD

[Darealkingjames]

It's not true at all. An S2 is as stable as an F2 - meaning it will open up all genetic information contained within the breeding pairs.

THE ONLY thing different, from a statistical standpoint, in regards to consistency when selfing - is there is no male genetic information present.

As such, the variation that you see in an selfed line, regardless of what generation, is merely reflective of the variation that exists within the female itself.

If an s1 line is all over the map with different expressions, it shows you that breeding that same plant to a male will only further complicate the process of creating a stable line.

Any s1 generation with a large variation, is theoretically, impossible to stabilize - even within the 8-10 generation range.

THIS is EXACTLY what TomHill tried to get "us" as a collective community to understand. It fell on too many deaf ears. I miss Tom.



dank.Frank

Thanks for the info dank. It's always good to get the correct info where there is so much bs spread all over. Much respect

 

[Smokin Joe]

I'm not looking for anything close to what I already have. S2/F2 are suppose to bring out more of the hidden recessive traits good and bad.

I gave all of these out as freebies. Only person I have seen with 1 growing is Tony. Maybe someone else will grow and show some of them?

The very next seeds I soak will be these.

 

[Hammerhead]

It's not true at all. An S2 is as stable as an F2 - meaning it will open up all genetic information contained within the breeding pairs.

THE ONLY thing different, from a statistical standpoint, in regards to consistency when selfing - is there is no male genetic information present.

As such, the variation that you see in an selfed line, regardless of what generation, is merely reflective of the variation that exists within the female itself.

If an s1 line is all over the map with different expressions, it shows you that breeding that same plant to a male will only further complicate the process of creating a stable line.

Any s1 generation with a large variation, is theoretically, impossible to stabilize - even within the 8-10 generation range.

THIS is EXACTLY what TomHill tried to get "us" as a collective community to understand. It fell on too many deaf ears. I miss Tom.



dank.Frank

Everything I have read on the subject says if I want to bring out the hidden traits in the female line I must take it to s2.. Same goes for f2 but you also get the hidden traits from the male. f1/s1 wont have the same hidden traits expressed in the s2/f2 lines. I'm not referring to stability ?. I want to unlock the genetics we would not see in an s1.

 

[dank.frank]

What you said is correct Hammer. In the time I made that post, you had also responded. My comment was in response to post #1452 by DaRealKingJames...and wasn't meant as a corrective post directed at you. I left it because it expands on what you had already stated.

But yes, the F2/S2 generation is where you are going to find the extreme outliers and start to see (with enough numbers) dominance and recessive gene traits.



dank.Frank

 

[Hammerhead]

Oh gotcha

 

[milo_xxx]

I'm not looking for anything close to what I already have. S2/F2 are suppose to bring out more of the hidden recessive traits good and bad.

I gave all of these out as freebies. Only person I have seen with 1 growing is Tony. Maybe someone else will grow and show some of them?

I would grow some if I had some!!!
I've gotta live vicariously through others...

 

[greendiamond9]

I would grow some of I had some!!!
I've gotta live vicariously through others...

There are still some Sour dubb S1 x Bio Diesel left

 

[SirSmokalot]

Finally got a dub on the way back. I accidentally missed cloning her close to a yr ago and my back up ditched his when I lost mine he knew I'd never let go on purpose and decided to run new things for a bit at the same time I screwed up. Bad timing FML
Cross your fingers the dub survives the heat on its journey. I'm down to my last couple days worth of dub dabs.
Thanks homie for the return if ya see this.
For years she's been my favorite strain to smoke. Smack myself for fucking up

 

[SirSmokalot]

Yeah this is pretty much spot on. GGG had nothing to do with it. they just also have a strain they call orange juice. Obs's is actually orange juice bud. and i think gsizzle might have run the orange dubb from obs..?
i was lucky enough to run a couple of the ojb x's and they are super orangey and terpy. delicious

anways, while im here i miz well throw up a couple new pics o a sexy dubb s1. Tasty, but not quite as good as momma. Although it may be a little stronger. this shit is potent. ran it a couple times and prolly will let it go cause i prefer momma dubb

Sour dubb s1
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Oh yeah, and i saw that a few pages back there was some question about treetroits cut. Some were saying his was yielding too much to be real. I can say 100% his is real. i wouldn't believe it was real mysel if i didnt know for sure. That dude makes everything yield like crazy. hes like a jedi ninja or some shit.
but yeah, his is for sure the original. same cut as this vvvv one
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It's so funny I was always saying my dubs killed the yields I was hearing about. Peeps thought I was crazy. Then third started posting plants that looked how mine did.
Feel bad for the non believers lol.
Made me happy to see another killing with the cut.

 

[Treetroit City]

I just took one down that I didn't knock out of the park, was figuring maybe four zips but she went 7. I was pretty shocked honestly. The nice thing about growing her was she worked out great for side/satellite plants in a cage or with 3 or 4 stakes. I would never try her on my tables but she is a great stand alone plant.

Kinda kicking myself for letting her go now lol.

 

[SirSmokalot]

Damn oh no. Lol that's always the case. To damn tasty

I'm receiving a dub from a friend who I'm pretty sure received his from you. You can prob figure out who.

Anyway if ya change your mind in the future n mine survives u already know. Circle of life type shit.

Yeah nice surprise too. My last killer run I had 9 plants under the particular light. 3 of them were dubs in 2 gallons. I hit 15oz from 1/3 the plot. I was stoked, and wishing all 9 were dub. Pretty sure I hit like 27oz total for the light. Whack according to my stoner math 45 oz were possible.

 

[Hammerhead]

I just pulled the last 1 down. Still cant get her to yield. This 1 was run under CDM/HPS. I need to retry for some reason this 1 had foxtailing. Nothing else did that. She might be more sensitive to high temps. I don't run much of this anymore. I keep her around for breeding purposes.

 

[SirSmokalot]

Well my new dub has arrived. Alive and well.

Got about .5 of dabs and a quarter of flowers left hooray

 

[Lifebreather]

I got a couple that are just starting to flower.

She's looking good, nice structure, similar in some ways to my katsu bubba.

 

[Greyskull]

Healthy And Happy
And waiting for the HP13 to start forming male flowers

 

[SirSmokalot]

I was happy when I heard you got her back GS

 

[stoned40yrs]

I just pulled the last 1 down. Still cant get her to yield. This 1 was run under CDM/HPS. I need to retry for some reason this 1 had foxtailing. Nothing else did that. She might be more sensitive to high temps. I don't run much of this anymore. I keep her around for breeding purposes.

I have 1 that's at 63 days, I run everything 70 days in my perpetual at the moment. Mine has been foxtailing also and my temps have been running high 88-90F. Going to have to be some uber potent shit for me to run it again, I just had to try this clone out 1 time at least.

 

[silver hawaiian]

It's so funny I was always saying my dubs killed the yields I was hearing about. Peeps thought I was crazy. Then third started posting plants that looked how mine did.
Feel bad for the non believers lol.
Made me happy to see another killing with the cut.

Ditto. Ran it side-by w the Glue, and IIRC, yields were damn-near even. Somewhere back in some old thread, .. Now I want to go dig it up, bc my gut tells me the Dubb actually outdid the Gler. YMMV of course.

Edit: Correct.

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=7012722&postcount=791

 

[Hammerhead]

Its not the potency we lov about Sdubb. She is no slouch but it's her flav thats top notch. that is what keeps her around my garden and to breed with.
Never had any issues getting plants like gg#4 to yield.. Sdubb just doesn't yield here.

 

[who dat is]

Has anybody grown Dubb both inside and out that can speak of the differences?