SOUR DUBBLE INFO THREAD

[Mrrite008]

Hey PF any plans to release any of your other work?? Cause I am Interested man!!

+1

 

[Hammerhead]

people will read what happened here and decide maybe they don't want to be vilified. Someone will toss you under the bus. Valuable lesson learned don't trust what people tell ya.

 

[yocs]

where will these seeds be listed?

 

[punkenstien]

...

 

[meadowman]

where did the sdubb cut auctioned off (for a good cause) at the cup come from?

 

[Twisted pleasur]

Im sorry about the stress was not my intention. Im not spring chicken either so I know what you mean. Best of Luck Ill be lurking PF

^^ above is what I was going to leave it at. But the truth is I do think you would prevail. You make your work known and you have shown some stellar plants and put in some amazing work Ive seen it. And I think that speaks volume's of what can be found in your seeds. Thats what I believe. And that is in part why I asked you to speak up with my post. Explain and you have and you have not done one thing wrong. And now the people know the truth from Josie and From GS and your intentions. Stand up and well done.

And P.S. I wish allot more of these ass hat breeders were more available to speak about and SHOW their work. Such as you you have. And not just throwing one make at a bunch of club cuts.

Thank you PF.

 

[Grizz]

true grit is speaking of ethics, integrity and respect. hes keeping it real. we need more of that today than ever. in todays weed game its all about the cash and not giving a shit...minus a few select breeders/people. whether its 1 dollar or a million profit off of someones elses find/work is extremely low class...permission or not. it took very little to no work for the beans hammerhead made, ie no selection. just reverse, pollinate, harvest and finally profit (reguardless of the amount). he keeps getting worked because someone is trying to make sure things are right. then after GS comes in and clears the air he still whines like a little girl whos having her doll took away. anyone that agrees with him is cool in his eyes, but go against him or say something he doesnt like then your a troll. how hammerhead was ever welcomed back here is beyond me after all the shit he talked about this site payaso, skip etc etc. that mentality is what got him banned from a private site.

profit ? with 500 or so seeds? lol. the seed game isent profitable unless your doing huge numbers and certainly not through seed banks, you have to hit the shows and that aint cheap either.

 

[Storm Shadow]

Didn't GS grow out 100's of Sour Dub S1's and he said not 1 of them came close to the original Cut?

This was years back but Im pretty sure he said that in the SD Finest Thread

Sour Dub > GG#4 like Jordan vs Nick Young

 

[Grizz]

ok so here's my take on it....not that it matters.

for those of you that don't know greyskull is working on getting into the seed game, and lets face it...he is inherently tied to sour dubb...I dont know for sure that he was planning on doing sour dubb s1's, but I do know that if I was GS I would be banking on dubb s1's and x's as my bell cow...the dubb is essentially GS's girl, the only reason shes out is that people broke their word...if not for that none of us would even know how awesome it is.

I'm fairly certain that pf knows about GS trying to get into the seed game through IG...which is the point I think True Grit is trying to make is that there is a bit of a conflict of interest, which to most would seem fairly apparent...regardless of the green light(lets face it, GS don't give 2 shits about drama, it's all fried spam and alohas from that guy)

just how I'm seeing it.

this is true but pf isent in the seed game, the market is big, gs can make a killing if he produces enough seeds, pf's little pile of seeds don't amount to nothing in todays market.

 

[SourDank]

I'm really confused, PF is catching all this shit for these S1's, yet I've seen DOZENS of dub fem and reg hybrids released by at least a handful of breeders in the past few months. Have any of these guys caught shit for it? Because apparently getting permission isn't enough anymore to make it an ok thing to do, so by that logic every breeder who has put out these crosses should be in the crosshairs because it's been apparent for a couple months that GS is getting into the seed game. So why is he being singled out amongst everyone that's using her? Seems a little backwards to me...if he is being treated this way, everyone should be because he had the ok, just like I'm assuming the others did. What's the difference here?

 

[whadeezlrg]

I agree with ya jw, not like 50 packs of seeds is going to turn the market upside down....I really don't want to keep going on and on about this but the timing could be better; we all know what happens when s1's get released(gg7 ring a bell?)

I think a big thing being missed in this conversation is GS said he gave the okay, but he also said that he and true grit saw eye to eye on this situation...gs left the ball in pf's court to make the judgement call...does he take the "ok" at face value? or does he read between the lines and see that GS is basically saying the only reason he's giving the thumbs up on it is because so many people have already broken their word on the dubb and it's beyond his control/out of his hands what people do with it at this point(fried spam and aloha)

I'm not trying to get personal with pf or anyone else for that matter, I'm just offering my 2 cents from where I'm seeing it...the dubb was never supposed to get to "glue" status in terms of being shared- which it never got quite as whored out(even after PO re-naming it and trying to pass it to literally everyone they could, against restrictions. but 90% of theirs were dudds).

I don't think that pf is doing anything wrong, he went out and got the ok from GS...not much more a person could do...he even offered a cut of the profits(which could be pretty significant from even 50 packs at an auction)

regardless of scale, if you make seeds to sell you are "part" of the seed game...pf will be marketing to the same customers that GS will be...

 

[Grizz]

I agree with ya jw, not like 50 packs of seeds is going to turn the market upside down....I really don't want to keep going on and on about this but the timing could be better; we all know what happens when s1's get released(gg7 ring a bell?)

I think a big thing being missed in this conversation is GS said he gave the okay, but he also said that he and true grit saw eye to eye on this situation...gs left the ball in pf's court to make the judgement call...does he take the "ok" at face value? or does he read between the lines and see that GS is basically saying the only reason he's giving the thumbs up on it is because so many people have already broken their word on the dubb and it's beyond his control/out of his hands what people do with it at this point(fried spam and aloha)

I'm not trying to get personal with pf or anyone else for that matter, I'm just offering my 2 cents from where I'm seeing it...the dubb was never supposed to get to "glue" status in terms of being shared- which it never got quite as whored out(even after PO re-naming it and trying to pass it to literally everyone they could, against restrictions. but 90% of theirs were dudds).

I don't think that pf is doing anything wrong, he went out and got the ok from GS...not much more a person could do...he even offered a cut of the profits(which could be pretty significant from even 50 packs at an auction)

regardless of scale, if you make seeds to sell you are "part" of the seed game...pf will be marketing to the same customers that GS will be...

see your point , but at a much smaller scale . what gets me is gs should have said no s1's if that's how he felt in the first place, not good to change your mind after the fact and cause bad feelings, I know that's not what he intended to do but it has

 

[punkenstien]

this is true but pf isent in the seed game, the market is big, gs can make a killing if he produces enough seeds, pf's little pile of seeds don't amount to nothing in todays market.

Pf won't be making a profit but I will.
$150 for 7 seeds of S2's all day every day until the hype dies down. 'LOL'

 

[Xray Kimono]

I'm sorry but I am all for the sharing and spreading of genes no matter whose bagseed, or pollen chucking ,or pheno selecting and breeding, and stabilizing.... I dont care where it comes from as long as it is FIRE andI also agree to pay a certain "hookup fee" to the source to cover the cost of production and compensate for the individuals time and risks. Anyone that had problems with it are either trying to just FREELOAD and take more than contributed, or are just jealous because they think that their profession or calling or approach to life is more "noble" and they think life is not "fair" and are jealous....

Boo fuckin hoo... Hate somewhere else... If you dont support someone, dont buy their wares or services...

All I have to say is that currently in the world there is more widespread badass genetics than there ever has been and it wouldnt be like that if people didnt spread genes and cover costs and live happy. So just smoke a doob of whatever FIRE is closest to you, and count your mary janes multiple flavors of blessings.

Peace!
Xray



Peace!

 

[soserthc1]

At a profit and for the good of others are not synonymous

Got a lot of respect for GS but say how ya feel when asked if its cool

I'm saying this as a glue s1 is my garden star currently

Take your cost ( plant production etc ) donate the rest to a charity
@sourdank it's a s1 of someone cut not crosses

 

[SourDank]

I got you @soserthc1, he had said that sdubb s1's and crosses would probably be his bell cow. That's why I was confused, I see em everywhere now lol. Thanks homie

 

[whadeezlrg]

keep in mind guys, my posts are what I took from what was being said...take it as a grain of salt, I'm probably just making things worse...I doubt that anyone involved is seeing this as big an issue as it's seemingly become over the last couple days... I'm certainly not speaking on the behalf of anyone...so let's just keep that all clear.

 

[SourDank]

For sure man, I just misinterpreted your post brother. I get where you coming from with it, and I get where PF is as well. All you can really do is ask permission. You can't control what other opinions on the matter are goin to be. Lol exclusive new dank cuts are going to start to be hoarded so much, because people are always getting or using cuts other don't think they should be. And it seems once it leaves your hands it's only a matter of time.

 

[Hammerhead]

This is how I fell and what is gonna happen....

I should have been told how GS felt from day 1. Telling someone that its OK but leaving out the more important fact that if I did I'm classless WTF. I would not have listed them if I would have known that. There are only 21 packs not 50. I don't agree that im in the seed game. Im the only 1 that can say im in it or not. But If im gonna take this much crap I might as well go full on in... I will work my keepers and offer crosses and s1 of my shit from now on. that way I don't put myself into a situation where I get told its ok and then later after I make them and list them I'm told im classless for doing so. What's wrong with this picture.

Now that I know how GS feels these Sdubb s1 seeds will be given out for free. I will not make 1 cent from them.... Since its OK to offer crosses as nothing was mentioned about these and others have been selling these for years..The 1st 21 people will get a pack for free if they buy a pack of the other cross..

 

[Twisted pleasur]

Now that sounds like a freekin plan. Good for you PF. Good For you.!