Some people get it....

[Gry]

Lived in Hong Kong from the mid sixties to the early seventies.
Watched Thai stick evolve with the passage of time. What I saw first was made by taking a section of the dried male stalk and using the fiber from the male plant to bind small little buds to the splint of stalk, this was repeated up and down the splint of dried cannabis stalk until it was a little more thick than a cigarette.
They would lash them together into "packs" just as shown in the pictures.
With the passage of time, I saw the splint of dried male plant be replaced with slivers of bamboo splints,
and the cannabis fiber was replaced with cotton thread.
I was able to travel all over the area and did so frequently for the entire time I was there. I ate out of the
market places on a regular basis. It was nothing to have something custom modified over there.
I can well imagine that some people thought of dipping their sticks into damned near anything
they thought might give it a bit of an extra marketing edge. It was all about sales on that end.
Have been fortunate to have known moose eater in real life for several years, and I know him to
be an individual for whom integrity means a great deal. While I have never personally encountered
dipped sticks, I have no difficulty at all thinking that was done, and he encountered some that
had been customized.

 

[Donald Mallard]

Lived in Hong Kong from the mid sixties to the early seventies.
Watched Thai stick evolve with the passage of time. What I saw first was made by taking a section of the dried male stalk and using the fiber from the male plant to bind small little buds to the splint of stalk, this was repeated up and down the splint of dried cannabis stalk until it was a little more thick than a cigarette.
They would lash them together into "packs" just as shown in the pictures.
With the passage of time, I saw the splint of dried male plant be replaced with slivers of bamboo splints,
and the cannabis fiber was replaced with cotton thread.
I was able to travel all over the area and did so frequently for the entire time I was there. I ate out of the
market places on a regular basis. It was nothing to have something custom modified over there.
I can well imagine that some people thought of dipping their sticks into damned near anything
they thought might give it a bit of an extra marketing edge. It was all about sales on that end.
Have been fortunate to have known moose eater in real life for several years, and I know him to
be an individual for whom integrity means a great deal. While I have never personally encountered
dipped sticks, I have no difficulty at all thinking that was done, and he encountered some that
had been customized.

yes mr moose seems like a genuine fellow to me also ,
nothing i said was meant to relect on his charcater or intergrity ,
more i was simply tying to show that just because it may have looked like ,
or be called a thai stick , that didnt mean it was from thailand ,
or that the thais had anything to do with the "product enhancment" ,
for want of a better word ,
a previous post or two helps tell that story ,
as i continually say in my posts , its very unlikely there was any commercial quantity of dipped stick from the source ,this has been backed up by smugglers i have spoken to ,
folks who have reported back while searching around the place during those times , who saw the sources and spoke to them at length ,
and also by smugglers who have even written books on the subject ,

what folks did afterwards , or did to other products unrelated , is anyones guess ....

 

[Donald Mallard]

Great video btw. Gone off topic a bit but preservation is so important. I have grown a few landrace and although difficult, well worth it in terms of unique, unmuddied effects. I've subscribed to that channel so much appreciated.

i ejoyed the video too ,
the guy has some passion thats for sure ,
its good to see people like that doing good work ,
and having such appreciation for the stuff we all seem to hold in high regard too ....

also thanks to lj for posting up this thread ,
its plain he is also passionate about the same subject ,
i enjoy talking to folks who have had experience like lj ,
traveled folks always have great stories that have had me interested since i was very young ,
its one of the reasons i ended up doing travel to similar places when i could ,
it certainly expands ones horizons ....

 

[Gry]

yes mr moose seems like a genuine fellow to me also ,
nothing i said was meant to relect on his charcater or intergrity ,
more i was simply tying to show that just because it may have looked like ,
or be called a thai stick , that didnt mean it was from thailand ,
or that the thais had anything to do with the "product enhancment" ,
for want of a better word ,
a previous post or two helps tell that story ,
as i continually say in my posts , its very unlikely there was any commercial quantity of dipped stick from the source ,this has been backed up by smugglers i have spoken to ,
folks who have reported back while searching around the place during those times , who saw the sources and spoke to them at length ,
and also by smugglers who have even written books on the subject ,

what folks did afterwards , or did to other products unrelated , is anyones guess ....

Seen several interesting knock offs over the years that appear to been inspired by Thai sticks.
Most memorable was a product sold as Buddha Stick. They were much larger than the originals,
made with a bamboo skewer with indoor grown cannabis lashed on to the bamboo skewer,
it was about as thick as a thick cigar. It was dipped in BHO, and sold as Buddha Stick.
Having been spoiled by the original, I had no desire to sample the more more recent
Buddha stick.

 

[Gry]

yes mr moose seems like a genuine fellow to me also ,
nothing i said was meant to relect on his charcater or intergrity ,
more i was simply tying to show that just because it may have looked like ,
or be called a thai stick , that didnt mean it was from thailand ,
or that the thais had anything to do with the "product enhancment" ,
for want of a better word ,
a previous post or two helps tell that story ,
as i continually say in my posts , its very unlikely there was any commercial quantity of dipped stick from the source ,this has been backed up by smugglers i have spoken to ,
folks who have reported back while searching around the place during those times , who saw the sources and spoke to them at length ,
and also by smugglers who have even written books on the subject ,

what folks did afterwards , or did to other products unrelated , is anyones guess ....

Seen several interesting knock offs over the years that appear to been inspired by Thai sticks.
Most memorable was a product sold as Buddha Stick. They were much larger than the originals,
made with a bamboo skewer with indoor grown cannabis lashed on to the bamboo skewer,
it was about as thick as a thick cigar. It was dipped in BHO, and sold as Buddha Stick.
Having been spoiled by the original, I had no desire to sample the more more recent
Buddha stick.

 

[Jellyfish]

I've heard of those. It's just packaging, marketing.

 

[Donald Mallard]

Seen several interesting knock offs over the years that appear to been inspired by Thai sticks.
Most memorable was a product sold as Buddha Stick. They were much larger than the originals,
made with a bamboo skewer with indoor grown cannabis lashed on to the bamboo skewer,
it was about as thick as a thick cigar. It was dipped in BHO, and sold as Buddha Stick.
Having been spoiled by the original, I had no desire to sample the more more recent
Buddha stick.

i got sold a product from the early indoor days they called indoor buddha,
it was really good , though likely not related to what we used to get called thai buddha,
a guy i sold some too was very dubious at first ,
but after trialing some almost became a nuisance he visited that much ,, lol ...

 

[Mimpi Manis]

Lived in Hong Kong from the mid sixties to the early seventies.
Watched Thai stick evolve with the passage of time. What I saw first was made by taking a section of the dried male stalk and using the fiber from the male plant to bind small little buds to the splint of stalk, this was repeated up and down the splint of dried cannabis stalk until it was a little more thick than a cigarette.
They would lash them together into "packs" just as shown in the pictures.
With the passage of time, I saw the splint of dried male plant be replaced with slivers of bamboo splints,
and the cannabis fiber was replaced with cotton thread.
I was able to travel all over the area and did so frequently for the entire time I was there. I ate out of the
market places on a regular basis. It was nothing to have something custom modified over there.
I can well imagine that some people thought of dipping their sticks into damned near anything
they thought might give it a bit of an extra marketing edge. It was all about sales on that end.
Have been fortunate to have known moose eater in real life for several years, and I know him to
be an individual for whom integrity means a great deal. While I have never personally encountered
dipped sticks, I have no difficulty at all thinking that was done, and he encountered some that
had been customized.

It seems likely it happened no doubt. My doubt is whether it was mainstream practice? At least in our neck of the woods. (Just over the horizon). I just dig the stories. Lets face it, this plant changed our lives. Our futures. Mostly for the better. We met amazing people. Saw brilliant concerts. How lucky were we? We're all basically in a search of a certain kind of beauty which was opened up to us in a moment. Could have been a lot worse. In my case at least.

 

[Donald Mallard]

heres a quote from the book "thai stick"
just for perspective from a point of view of those involved in the scene then and not just who and what they knew , after many many hours of interviews of folks involved in the scene then ..

My coauthor and I conducted close to 1000 hours of interviews in Thailand, Cambodia, and the US and found no evidence of the "opiated Thai Stick." One otherwise credible source claimed that some Thai had an "opium tincture" sprinkled on it. Although the source was a major early player who caught the first "Golden Voice" that was shipped via APO to Oahu, his time in Asia was limited, and he was mistaken. The fact that this myth persists is testimony to how strong Thai Stick were

 

[mexweed]

for some perspective 1,000 hours of interviews is like 500 matt riot/notsodog episodes, do they cite any of the people they interviewed?

 

[Mimpi Manis]

for some perspective 1,000 hours of interviews is like 500 matt riot/notsodog episodes, do they cite any of the people they interviewed?

I like the Breeders Forum also. Some nuggets in those anecdotes. Can I ask: You ever try genuine Thai Stick or other vaunted SE Asians? I can tell you without prevarication or guilding the lily the proof is in the pudding... and some years of experience of such. Dr Duck's experience and observations resemble mine almost exactly. I have no problem with the 1000 interviews either. Written by people who knew the scene and did the hard yards. Quaint old concept you may have heard of known as 'journalism'. Some of you don't know what you missed. Buy yourself a present... and dare to hope:

 

[Donald Mallard]

for some perspective 1,000 hours of interviews is like 500 matt riot/notsodog episodes, do they cite any of the people they interviewed?

Probably some indicators in the book but its difficult citing folks on illegal stuff such as smuggling etc I'd imagine..

 

[Mimpi Manis]

Probably some indicators in the book but its difficult citing folks on illegal stuff such as smuggling etc I'd imagine..

Yeh, there are still old dudes who wont appear on any kind of visual medium. I'm guessing a few of 'em would be happy not to bring up ALL the good old days!

PS: Some great posts here guys. Dig it.

 

[Hammerhead]

1000 hrs back then is like a million today lol. There are not many still alive that know how good some weed was back then. They point to the crappy HT pics of 70s weed and call it schwag. So much has been lost in cannabis quality. Most never got to experience those killer batches. I have my doubts that it will ever be found again.

 

[Donald Mallard]

1000 hrs back then is like a million today lol. There are not many still alive that know how good some weed was back then. They point to the crappy HT pics of 70s weed and call it schwag. So much has been lost in cannabis quality. Most never got to experience those killer batches. I have my doubts that it will ever be found again.

yea i wish folks didnt look at those high times buds as a representation of those times , such poor examples , they couldnt have gotten worse to be honest ...
legal growing in tropical zones could see a rise of those types again in time hammer , its the combination of the sort of seeds coupled with that climate that created them to begin with ,, i hope they are seen again and appreciated once more , opium free of course , hahaha ...

 

[mexweed]

well like some of the people mentioned in the book Orange Sunshine can be looked up and there's interesting stuff to read about them on their own, would be cool if some of the interviewees were like that

 

[harvestreaper]

heres a quote from the book "thai stick"
just for perspective from a point of view of those involved in the scene then and not just who and what they knew , after many many hours of interviews of folks involved in the scene then ..

My coauthor and I conducted close to 1000 hours of interviews in Thailand, Cambodia, and the US and found no evidence of the "opiated Thai Stick." One otherwise credible source claimed that some Thai had an "opium tincture" sprinkled on it. Although the source was a major early player who caught the first "Golden Voice" that was shipped via APO to Oahu, his time in Asia was limited, and he was mistaken. The fact that this myth persists is testimony to how strong Thai Stick were

stoners love a myth they even go into great detail explaining the myths virtues was same way with white specs in hash that became opiated hash but was simply pieces of chalk off the hash workers hands lol

 

[Donald Mallard]

stoners love a myth they even go into great detail explaining the myths virtues was same way with white specs in hash that became opiated hash but was simply pieces of chalk off the hash workers hands lol

yes and mold too ,, but in the imagination of some ,, everything and anything can happen , and mythology comes alive .... hahaha