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So uhh... my landlord's coming over tomorrow guys & I got a room full of pot

Landlord forces my door open ever I am ripping his fucking head off if my dog does not eat him first! :)

Sounds like big trouble. You're going to need plenty of legal advice before this thing is over. As your attorney, I advise you to rent a very fast car with no top. And you'll need the cocaine
 

SOTF420

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is that a line from a movie or something lmao

definitely don't play with the cane mane!

oh wait that is from fear and loathing in las vegas oh yeah, I am stoned :canabis:
 
Well, that would apply to any home invasion no matter who the perpetrator was. The police would still need a warrant based on what the landlord said he saw, which would give you some time to get rid of the evidence.
Not true. Warrents don't take that long, the police can "hold" you for 48-72 hrs without cause while they get a warrent, and the execptions to the warrent requierment are numerous. Best not to get arrested rather than hope that the courts will throw out the evidence in a year or 2.
 

SOTF420

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I'm thinking you could put a few dozen silk pot plants in front of your house just to be safe!
 
And when you win in court, and place a lien on the property as the judgement, you might get the place for free. :)
It's very hard to get a just lien someone owes you money, unless it's a mechanics lien (you did work on the property that you weren't paid for) or it was secured by the property, like a mortgage. If a judgment in civil court usually resulted in a real property lien, that a mortgage would be unnecessary because all loans would essentially be mortgages. and even then the sheriff usually sells it at auction and you only get enough to satisfy the debt, after senior creditors. Ask a lawyer how many people get foreclosure for civil suits, and i bet $1000 they will say "very few."
 
Maybe so, but also ask how many landlords bust the doors down so they can show your apartment, I'll bet "very few" :) It might even scare off the potential buyers standing behind him who don't want to take part in a crime, or the criminal/civil liability afterwards. .

The debt on a civil suit from a home invasion and kidnapping by the landlord would be quite high. Much more than the apartment building is worth.

Also the OP should note that all this "jailhouse lawyer" advice is worth exactly what he paid for it. On both sides of the argument.
 

SOTF420

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You think the OP could have the decency to at least update the thread he made.
 
Maybe so, but also ask how many landlords bust the doors down so they can show your apartment, I'll bet "very few" :)

The debt on a civil suit from a home invasion and kidnapping by the landlord would be quite high. Much more than the apartment building is worth.

Also the OP should note that all this "jailhouse lawyer" advice is worth exactly what he paid for it. On both sides of the argument.
All true. But I would argue that any lawyers advice better none; at least the jailhouse lawyers have experience with criminal law. Should you bargain shop for representation in court? No. but nearly any licensed lawyer can give you advice about basic procedure, if they can't then they would have lost their license for being unfit to practice, cuz that's the most basic and elemental aspect of their job. If they give you wrong advice, you got yourself a malpractice case.
Not trying to break balls, but people who may or may not break the law every day, all day should not hesitate to get legal advice. It's just good sense.

PS. you can't sue a message board for Legal Malpractice.
 
PS. you can't sue a message board for Legal Malpractice.

Technically you can. You can sue anyone for any reason. But if it isn't dismissed you will almost definitely lose the lawsuit. Its probably the reason most if not all legal advice forums post a disclaimer.

BUT I agree, its better advice than none, posting real experiences with the law is the most helpful.
 
I like you. You are anal like me.
Edit:This is not an offer for gay sex

I agree with you liking me :)

But if anyone wants to see real hard core anal, mixed with offers of gay sex, try posting this question in a legal forum. On top of the 10,000 trolls chiming in on what a "dope head" you are, there would probably be some propositions. :wave:

BTW - this reply probably bumped ICmags ratings for certain keywords. :)
 

SmokinErb

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Holy shit.... I'm sorry guys! I had no idea this was going to turn into... well I haven't read it yet.

But basically? I don't even know what's going on. I was kinda trying to find out before I posted anything. Sorry for not checkin' in yet. +rep to 10k for reminding me. Really the only thing I ever do is post on my journal. I'll venture outside of that now and again, but not much.

Okay so she never showed up. She SAID she was coming, but never did. Never got a phone call from her, and so I'm not going to pursue it. The door stays locked, if she wants to come over, it'll be the same story. Someone's not home. Whoever it is has the key and she needs to come back. They'll be removed before then.

Once again, legally... I'm safe. I'm required a 72 hour notice upon inspection. I'm just trying to avoid playing that card, because it's pretty suspicious.

I'm not sure whether or not I'm expecting to hear from her. I hope not. I hope she just let's us finish out the lease without a problem. Thanks a lot for some of your words. I knew I was okay for the most part, hard not to somewhat panic in that situation.

Honestly? I was kinda disappointed when she didn't come. This isn't exactly the first time I've had a landlord come to a grow house (4th, actually) but fuck it doesn't get any easier, that's for sure. First time I've ever had to seal off a whole bedroom. The rest were closet/cab grows. Easy to tell her not to go through your personal shit. Harder to tell her she can't go through a room that she owns.

I'll catch up now and edit back any needed replies. Oh! IF anything else happens with her showing the place, I'll make sure to update again. I think this is the first thread I've ever made that got more than 2-3 replies :p Hard to keep a habit of checking my own threads.

Once again, sorry for leaving this hanging. I got high? I was actually looking for this thread when I refreshed my grow journal (It stays tabbed on FF) and seen 10k drop in a reminder.
 

Norkali

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From his thread:

Well she never stopped by yesterday. I have NO IDEA what's going on and I'm not liking it. I'll use that 72 hour thing to my advantage if it comes down to it, but she never called or anything. I'm not pursuing it.

I put the Mandala strains in flower yesterday. I don't have time to veg 'em out any more really. Gonna take some cuttings and transplant tonight, I may have to harvest the cuttings early too.

He'll probably post up anytime here...
 

SmokinErb

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Not directly related but....I always get a kick out of posts popping up here and then asking along the line

"Planning to grow in a rental, is that a good idea?"

Then when I reply telling the poster NO it NEVER is a good idea others pop in telling they have been growing in rentals for "so and so long" just fine.

Yeah it might go fine 9 out of ten times.

The one time it doesn't it is not worth the stress or potentially worse....see this thread.

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I respectfully disagree and see your reasoning in believing so. However my personal list:

Rental home (Way to go, IMO)
Duplex
Multiplex
Complex (You gotta death wish - but meh, I've done it)
Your own home

Why? The risks are the same minus landlord issues, BUT the law is on your side. If you get caught, it really is your fault - it's easy to remove plants in 24 hours, let alone 72. And still make hash.

If you get caught in your own home, again it will be your own fault...

However! You will lose your home. So on top of getting put in the slam, you're losing a quite expensive piece of property. Not worth it IMO.

Renters rights exist for a reason. You need to use these to your advantage and plan accordingly. IF you do this, you should NEVER get caught, provided you grow properly (security, specifically). The same goes for growing in your own home. If something DOES happen, I don't see how it can't have been a slip-up on your end.

If I owned a home? I'd rent a growing property - I'll lose a harvest before I lose a home. That's just me.
 

SmokinErb

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Be real careful in this type of situation. A long time ago, maybe 18 years back a friend had a large grow in a room in his house, a house he was selling. When viewers came to look, he said it was storage and didnt have the key, no problem. Until one of the "possible buyers" who came to look at the house one day was actually undercover cops.
Now he was dumb as all hell, 100+ plants no odor control, you could smell that shit from the driveway sometimes! And too many people knew, the #1 downfall. Someone had tipped off the police about his grow after an argument and they found an opportunity to get a look for themselves. I think it was a couple days later they came home to find their crop burnt in the yard (guess thats how they did things in Alaska almost 20 years ago) they took all his equipment and they left the warrant on the table.

Not at all saying this is the same situation, but I would never want to have a large, or any kind of grow in a house/apt that is up for sale. You never know what kind of people are going to come into your home. ;)

Honestly? That guys either got a pair of iron balls or he's just stupid. I've never grown more than 4 plants without a carbon filter, and I was freaking out even then. That grow was also when I first got into HID and really just couldn't afford one.

So like I'm just curious as to the story actually lol They did what, served a search warrant, cut the plants up and burned 'em in the back yard? I bet they stood real close to THAT fire :) 20 years ago - I can see that happening. Wish it was like that these days. Too many people in jail for no justifiable cause.
 

SmokinErb

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She's probably going to come back when the supposed roommate is supposed to be home, Never use a time frame as an excuse unless your going to scrub the grow .. that time will run out

I never did give her a time frame. We simply said "out of town" and never said what or when. We actually never talked to the landlord directly, just to the real estate lady when she called us.

I'm not really trying to pursue this. She'll either give us a legal notice, or she won't see every room in the house. Really is end of the story. I'm just trying to avoid having to cut my plants down, and keep her nice and happy and content until I harvest and tear my grow room down on my own accord.
 

SmokinErb

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and thats what i mean by that. No word and after frequent updates is never a good sign

Gonna use this to get it out there.

I didn't reply promptly because: I was awake for 36 hours. I got properly drunk after such a scare, smoked some pretty damn good Blue Cheese, and then some stuff I harvested early today.

Basically, I was tired. I seriously slept for like 15 hours straight. Didn't wake up until 2:00 PM today.

Really sorry about that guys. Once again.
 

SmokinErb

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definately had this happen a few times, had the punkass landlord at the door to the growroom like "hey guys you need to open this door now"

my roomate told him he couldnt go in there, he left and said he would have to inspect later that week. so we tore everything down and reconverted it to bedroom even with beds and lamps, clothes, etc...

That's what I'm saying! IF you ABSOLUTELY have to. Tell them no. Tear your shit down, if you got a place to put 'em great. If not, make hash. If I had to tear it down, I'd put my computer in there along with desk and shit, throw a couple laptops and my printer - office. It's a small room anyway. 8'x9' compared to the other two bedrooms which are both 13x13 and 12x16 respectively. I had it set up that way while I had the seedlings vegging in the closet. It looks legit.
 

SmokinErb

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Really? You called the cops and said your tenant won't let you in and they came and busted down the door for you?
Yeah right.

I'm talking about changing the locks and saying you will be out in thirty days, and there will be no showing before that.
Will things get tense with the landlord?
Of course.
Can he call the cops and have them force the door open and escort him in?
Absolutely not.

Let's hear your story of how the cops did it for you though

Dude. You. I like you. Uhm, you got a grow journal or anything like that maybe? I know this isn't the growers forums, but lol I just thought I'd ask.

I don't remember the post he made, but maybe he's referring to me calling the cops? That WOULD work - they'd ask her to leave, I believe. Stupid idea, but in theory it should work for me.
 
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