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[redlaser]

Good points.

The worries for someone that is going to suffer an early freeze such as described is that it can damage roots enough to stop growing, leaving the growers little ability to keep growing There are different methods depending on the fear.

The process for fruit trees is different. They are perennials, deep rooted and always go through heavy winters. The process you are describing is to save an early blossom or first growth.

The process that I describe is to be able to keep growing the buds minimizing the risk of cold air entering air space in the soil, possibly frosting surface feeder roots. The idea of applying water to buds scares me. Here is a good article that describes in detail the full recommendations for this method. Important to understand the real details.

Will It Kill Plants to Water Them Before a Freezing Night? | Home Guides | SF Gate

https://homeguides.sfgate.com/kill-plants-water-before-freezing-night-68746.html

I've heard of the process your talking about, and it probably has its place with some crops. Myself I would not want the extra water, but a lighter watering might work I guess to help with closing air gaps.

The foliage loss ideally would be addressed when temps are freezing or below, a frost cloth tent or roof setup if possible with hoops would be my first choice if outside and not acres worth.

If it's only hitting 31-32 degrees you'll probably be fine with soil watering and no foliage protection, maybe 30 degrees.

If your going to hit 28 degrees without cover I would bet that watering the roots will not save the plant from foliage losses. My example of the peach tree blossoms being saved with overnight sprinklers just shows how delicate tissue can be saved at lower temps.

It would not be my first choice in protection though, lots of branch breakage likely, the extra water on the flowers not ideal.

 

[reppin2c]

We'll just be here in CO with our cold tolerant plants, not worrying until its below 30. Its already snowed, hailed and froze to 24. Still growing

 

[redlaser]

We'll just be here in CO with our cold tolerant plants, not worrying until its below 30. Its already snowed, hailed and froze to 24. Still growing

Do you have cannabis outside at 24 degrees without any damage? I've never pushed it that far so not sure if that's possible. My guess would be that it's not possible, but cannabis always surprises me with its tolerances

 

[Dankwolf]

Do you have cannabis outside at 24 degrees without any damage? I've never pushed it that far so not sure if that's possible. My guess would be that it's not possible, but cannabis always surprises me with its tolerances

Cheap harbor freight tarps cast over plants with gallon water jugs can do wounder's should you have end up in such a situation. Some damage will result but not nearly as bad as leaft uncoverd. I will not use this half ss techniqe unless nessasery. Most strians wither around 28° in my expeirance .

Take it for what it is . tgis saved my ass a time or two good luck and keep the hate to your self.

 

[redlaser]

Most strians wither around 28° in my expeirance .

Take it for what it is . tgis saved my ass a time or two good luck and keep the hate to your self.

Yeah, 28 is funeral time for a lot of annuals, above 97% of them anyway would be my guess.

In the future I will try and keep the seething cauldron of hate I maintain to myself. Sometimes it's too much to keep back and I unleash it, and you witnessed that in my last post.

 

[reppin2c]

Do you have cannabis outside at 24 degrees without any damage? I've never pushed it that far so not sure if that's possible. My guess would be that it's not possible, but cannabis always surprises me with its tolerances

No I had 20 fires going that night. The turnips and food plot where froze around midnight. The elevated plantings of cannabis hasn't really missed a beat...its been 30 and 32 a few times since the 24.

My buddy up the hill said it was 22 when he was headed to work. His plants took a bit of damage.

 

[jidoka]

A week of rain and 34 F is all I can claim...pffft, shit is still growing

 

[EasyGoing]

Man, last night dipped to 48 here in cali....... Crazy cold!

 

[~star~crash~]

i can report that my crop really actually seemed to like the chilly nights over the past week , i got some slight purpling and the buds are just fine ... hardy as can be

 

[~star~crash~]

This is what the ~Arcata Train Wreck~ looks like

This is what the ~Arcata Train Wreck~ looks like

Grown outdoors in the North East USA

 

[Avenger]

Black Gold Natural and Organic is from Sungro, so it comes from them with VanSil(ReSILence) already mixed in as a replacement for dolomite limestone pH adjustment.

 

[reppin2c]

Does anyone have numbers on BG N/O?

 

[jidoka]

All this bagged soil moves around on tests.

Last BGNO I have is:
tcec 9.93
pH 5.7
OM 51
S 45
P2O5 177
Ca % 53.71
Mg 8.51
K 6.2
Na 1.56
H 24
b 0.37
fe 57
mn 9
zn 0.29
cu 2,78

 

[growingcrazy]

That is the sole reason to have a gigantic pile of base mix if your running this way around the clock...

 

[jidoka]

Me cloning mix. Lots of fungus before a single plant. Can I call it living soil

 

[growingcrazy]

Me cloning mix. Lots of fungus before a single plant. Can I call it living soil

Clone straight into it?

You mentioned getting enough Ca and P into the plant early... I'm on round 2 of cloning in soil saturated in both. So easy... I didn't want to mention it until I had conclusive evidence.

 

[jidoka]

Yea when I say me I mean orechron gave it to me and I added malted rye. Never look back at re or cubes

 

[HappyTreeFarm]

man o man, i though they were done for, i lost my whole crop last year from cold weather so I've been doing my due diligence to make sure i have a successful crop.
It got into the low 20s the other night, i heated some water up to 66* and ran through the irrigation lines, i flushed the lines till the warm water went through to the end of the line. the water in the tubing was about 38* till flushed. i did the warm watering between 3-5am
they recovered just fine and everything is chunking trying to finish as fast as possible. super stoked! im sure the high Ca soil throughout the season helped so much in making my crop more resistant

How do you post vertical pics? so annoying......

 

[jidoka]

Real soil...no lightweight shit

 

[EasyGoing]

My Blue dream has a 4 ft cola that is thicker than a football and denser than a jawbreaker. In years past my average yield was X and my average size plant is Y. This year, my average yields seem to be 2x, yet my average size plant is slightly smaller than Y. The size of the buds are ridiculous! I could seriously knock somebody out with some of the nugs in the garden. Just crazy results this year on the full season, I hope the quality comes through in the bag.