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Trichome Toker
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Your only hope is to "borrow" the driver's license of someone who looks like you.
Leaving the state, let alone the country, will only make things worse.
If you can't get the DL of a person who looks like you, the only sure fire way to avoid being caught is to never leave the house ever, never answer your door, etc.
It will be like a prison inside your own home, albeit a much more comfortable prison if you can afford an Xbox and some cable service.
I feel you on the probation, I can deal with 30 days in jail, but 2 years probation, not smoking, and working a 9-5 at McDonald's isn't my bag.
South Carolina will not extradite you for a misdemeanor, I know this for a fact.
However, even if you go to South Carolina, they won't extradite you, but they won't give your a Driver's License either.
Basically this is going to fuck your life until you get it over with.
As far as leaving the country, your dreaming, no foreign country wants a criminal immigrant, and you wouldn't make it past customs anyway, unless you feel like hiking a crossed the cactus fields into Mexico, only to be in the exact same situation, no ID, no DL, no ability to get a job, basically a nameless person who can only support themselves by further criminal activities.
Also, if you skip court it is a felony, and you will never get a good job ever again, you will be forced to be a criminal your whole life.
I am a convicted felon, Burger King won't even consider me, colleges laugh at my applications, even community colleges, I am stuck as a criminal for the rest of my life.
Think it through, people will kill to only have the BS charges you have.
Straiten your life out now, and avoid a lifestyle that is portrayed as much more glamorous than it truly is.
Even if your successful as a criminal (most aren't), it is still a pain in the ass.
I am not going to lie to you, and say you will get a year if your run, because you won't.
I met plenty of people in the county that came back on extradition, they didn't get put in the hole, and a few of them even got the flight charges dropped in pleas.
If they locked up everyone who skipped court on a misdemeanor for a year, they wouldn't have room in state prisons for anyone except bail jumpers.
When I was at my last arraignment they called out like 150 names, and at least 50 of them had skipped court, it is very common, people get scared, especially young people.
More than likely you will just become a convicted felon, and that is a (legitimate) economic death sentence.
If you are lucky they will drop the felony bail jumping charge, and in exchange you will need to do 5 years of probation instead of two, if you violate probation you will do at least 6 months before they give you another try.
Also, like others said, it will be very hard to get bail in future cases, you will be tagged as a runner.
Leaving the state, let alone the country, will only make things worse.
If you can't get the DL of a person who looks like you, the only sure fire way to avoid being caught is to never leave the house ever, never answer your door, etc.
It will be like a prison inside your own home, albeit a much more comfortable prison if you can afford an Xbox and some cable service.
I feel you on the probation, I can deal with 30 days in jail, but 2 years probation, not smoking, and working a 9-5 at McDonald's isn't my bag.
South Carolina will not extradite you for a misdemeanor, I know this for a fact.
However, even if you go to South Carolina, they won't extradite you, but they won't give your a Driver's License either.
Basically this is going to fuck your life until you get it over with.
As far as leaving the country, your dreaming, no foreign country wants a criminal immigrant, and you wouldn't make it past customs anyway, unless you feel like hiking a crossed the cactus fields into Mexico, only to be in the exact same situation, no ID, no DL, no ability to get a job, basically a nameless person who can only support themselves by further criminal activities.
Also, if you skip court it is a felony, and you will never get a good job ever again, you will be forced to be a criminal your whole life.
I am a convicted felon, Burger King won't even consider me, colleges laugh at my applications, even community colleges, I am stuck as a criminal for the rest of my life.
Think it through, people will kill to only have the BS charges you have.
Straiten your life out now, and avoid a lifestyle that is portrayed as much more glamorous than it truly is.
Even if your successful as a criminal (most aren't), it is still a pain in the ass.
I am not going to lie to you, and say you will get a year if your run, because you won't.
I met plenty of people in the county that came back on extradition, they didn't get put in the hole, and a few of them even got the flight charges dropped in pleas.
If they locked up everyone who skipped court on a misdemeanor for a year, they wouldn't have room in state prisons for anyone except bail jumpers.
When I was at my last arraignment they called out like 150 names, and at least 50 of them had skipped court, it is very common, people get scared, especially young people.
More than likely you will just become a convicted felon, and that is a (legitimate) economic death sentence.
If you are lucky they will drop the felony bail jumping charge, and in exchange you will need to do 5 years of probation instead of two, if you violate probation you will do at least 6 months before they give you another try.
Also, like others said, it will be very hard to get bail in future cases, you will be tagged as a runner.
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Just read this thread since it got necro'ed. Im kinda amazed (or maybe not...) that not one single post was based on factual information. Here's the scoop.
There's a federal act called the Uniform Criminal Extradition Act. Almost every state has adopted it into their state statutes. They all read almost 100% identically to match the federal statute. I won't get into the nuances of the statutes but in simple terms, you won't be arrested for a warrant in a different state for a crime punishable by under 1 year (misdemeanor). Furthermore, misdemeanor warrants are rarely entered into NCIC. In order to comply with the UCEA, for only a misdemeanor warrant, both states have to jump through massive hoops (paperwork) and spend plenty of money to serve "justice". The system is about making money, not spending it and they let the little fish go. Just don't go back to whatever state the warrant originated from!
Anyone who wants to read more can just google your state and uniform criminal extradition act. The part I spoke of is usually labeled "Arrest without a Warrant".
There's a federal act called the Uniform Criminal Extradition Act. Almost every state has adopted it into their state statutes. They all read almost 100% identically to match the federal statute. I won't get into the nuances of the statutes but in simple terms, you won't be arrested for a warrant in a different state for a crime punishable by under 1 year (misdemeanor). Furthermore, misdemeanor warrants are rarely entered into NCIC. In order to comply with the UCEA, for only a misdemeanor warrant, both states have to jump through massive hoops (paperwork) and spend plenty of money to serve "justice". The system is about making money, not spending it and they let the little fish go. Just don't go back to whatever state the warrant originated from!
Anyone who wants to read more can just google your state and uniform criminal extradition act. The part I spoke of is usually labeled "Arrest without a Warrant".
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Trichome Toker
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Trichome Toker said:
I posted that exact same information.
Trichome Toker said:
Congrats. Too bad 95% of the rest of that same post was inaccurate.
Trichome Toker
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You can't get a Driver's License with active warrants in any state in the Union, even misdemeanor warrants.
They will tell you to take care of your warrants before you can get a license at the DMV.
If that was the case, people with misdemeanor DUIs would just run off to the next state and start drunk driving with impunity again.
Also, just because they won't extradite you, don't mean the offenses aren't available on the computer, they are available, it just isn't worth it for them to extradite you.
Also, it is at the judge's discretion to issue a a felony warrant for skipping charges.
If you run on a really serious misdemeanor, like simple assault etc, they can and do put out felony interstate evading warrants if they want to, it is just rare.
You also will not be able to get through customs with a misdemeanor warrant that is true, and foriegn countries have access to your ENTIRE criminal history, including misdemeanors, and even your juvenile record.
I couldn't get into Canada because I had a DUI when I was 16.
It popped right up on the Canadian Custom Officer's computer immediately.
They will tell you to take care of your warrants before you can get a license at the DMV.
If that was the case, people with misdemeanor DUIs would just run off to the next state and start drunk driving with impunity again.
Also, just because they won't extradite you, don't mean the offenses aren't available on the computer, they are available, it just isn't worth it for them to extradite you.
Also, it is at the judge's discretion to issue a a felony warrant for skipping charges.
If you run on a really serious misdemeanor, like simple assault etc, they can and do put out felony interstate evading warrants if they want to, it is just rare.
You also will not be able to get through customs with a misdemeanor warrant that is true, and foriegn countries have access to your ENTIRE criminal history, including misdemeanors, and even your juvenile record.
I couldn't get into Canada because I had a DUI when I was 16.
It popped right up on the Canadian Custom Officer's computer immediately.
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Id like to add that all of this is assuming everyone plays by the book (the law), which we know isnt always the case. Also, federally involved cases vary. You can be yanked up anywhere in the country on federal FTA regardless of the underlying charge, whether a local misdemeanor being heard in federal district court (See Assimilative Crimes Act) or a federal felony.
Trichome Toker said:
Id like to add that all of this is assuming everyone plays by the book (the law), which we know isnt always the case. Also, federally involved cases vary. You can be yanked up anywhere in the country on federal FTA regardless of the underlying charge, whether a local misdemeanor being heard in federal district court (See Assimilative Crimes Act) or a federal felony.
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Trichome Toker
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A whole shit load has changed since 9/11.
I have been refused as DL because I had misdemeanor warrants in other states.
They told me I would have to clear up my warrants and come back if I wanted a DL.
I have no doubt that if it was a felony warrant, I would have been told to please wait, and been greeted by police officers.
The DMV does have access to criminal records, people have been busted on warrants at the DMV.
How is that any different from what I posted?
As for Canadian Customs having a reason to pull my record, they had no reason at all.
They asked me if I had ever been convicted of a crime, at the time I hadn't been, as an adult anyway.
I said that no I hadn't.
They said well what is the DUI when you are 16 I am looking at on my computer.
I said that was juvenile, they told me that got cleared.
They said I shouldn't lie to them, just be honest, they didn't feel like I should be allowed in.
When I started going back into America, American Customs asked why I had been refused entry, and I got the third degree from them as well.
I had to wait for fucking hours before they let me go.
So believe me, they do have all misdemeanors in some kind of database, that database is international, they even have your juvenile record.
The Canadian Customs official told me that any crime after the age of 11 is kept on computer forever, and that any felony committed at any age is kept forever.
That makes sense, because the first time I ever got locked up as an adult (19 years old) they told me that a new law said they has to take a DNA swab of my blood because I am a convicted felon.
I said WTF I am not a convicted felon, I am in here on misdemeanor charges, they said that the felony was when I was 13, an arson.
They still had a felony arson charge from another state when I was 13 years old on file!
Now they have my DNA the bastards.
I have been refused as DL because I had misdemeanor warrants in other states.
They told me I would have to clear up my warrants and come back if I wanted a DL.
I have no doubt that if it was a felony warrant, I would have been told to please wait, and been greeted by police officers.
The DMV does have access to criminal records, people have been busted on warrants at the DMV.
How is that any different from what I posted?
As for Canadian Customs having a reason to pull my record, they had no reason at all.
They asked me if I had ever been convicted of a crime, at the time I hadn't been, as an adult anyway.
I said that no I hadn't.
They said well what is the DUI when you are 16 I am looking at on my computer.
I said that was juvenile, they told me that got cleared.
They said I shouldn't lie to them, just be honest, they didn't feel like I should be allowed in.
When I started going back into America, American Customs asked why I had been refused entry, and I got the third degree from them as well.
I had to wait for fucking hours before they let me go.
So believe me, they do have all misdemeanors in some kind of database, that database is international, they even have your juvenile record.
The Canadian Customs official told me that any crime after the age of 11 is kept on computer forever, and that any felony committed at any age is kept forever.
That makes sense, because the first time I ever got locked up as an adult (19 years old) they told me that a new law said they has to take a DNA swab of my blood because I am a convicted felon.
I said WTF I am not a convicted felon, I am in here on misdemeanor charges, they said that the felony was when I was 13, an arson.
They still had a felony arson charge from another state when I was 13 years old on file!
Now they have my DNA the bastards.
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Trichome Toker said:
I thought it was pretty clear how it differed? You threw out a bunch of generalizations that may apply in some cases, but certainly not all, plus it was riddled with just plain inaccurate info. Sorry, Im not trying to get into your ass, just clearing up misinformation.
EDIT: just noticed your edit. Good info on the DNA stuff. They are getting serious about that now. Most states take DNA if you are charged with a felony and then "promise" to destroy it if you are acquitted. Just like they destroy fingerprints lol. Yeah right....off you go into the system with the rapists and carjackers.
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Trichome Toker
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It was a warrant from another state, and it was not a traffic related warrant.
I may be wrong about those 5 states, maybe there are 5 exceptions.
But I did get refused a DL because I had a non traffic related misdemeanor in another state, so it does happen.
If 5 states are the exception to this rule I have never been so happy to be wrong, and I would love you to give me the list of those states.
Also, what about the least serious felony that you can get?
If you have a felony aggravated harassment charge (least serious class of felony) do those states not care about that as well, because you probably would only get 6 months for a charge like that?
Also, if you skip bail on a aggravated harassment charged, are you guaranteed to have the felony FTA stick?
You think they would plead that down?
I have a friend who skipped out on an aggravated harassment charge, F3, least serious felony, but still a felony.
He was never convicted, skipped out on the pre-trial conference.
How much time you think he will get if apprehended?
No criminal record prior to this, he "attempted" to spit on a cop when he was drunk, but didn't actually hit him with the spit.
I feel for him, he is my friend, just a young kid, scared to leave the house and think he will get years in prison or something, because it involves a cop and he panicked and didn't go to court.
I may be wrong about those 5 states, maybe there are 5 exceptions.
But I did get refused a DL because I had a non traffic related misdemeanor in another state, so it does happen.
If 5 states are the exception to this rule I have never been so happy to be wrong, and I would love you to give me the list of those states.
Also, what about the least serious felony that you can get?
If you have a felony aggravated harassment charge (least serious class of felony) do those states not care about that as well, because you probably would only get 6 months for a charge like that?
Also, if you skip bail on a aggravated harassment charged, are you guaranteed to have the felony FTA stick?
You think they would plead that down?
I have a friend who skipped out on an aggravated harassment charge, F3, least serious felony, but still a felony.
He was never convicted, skipped out on the pre-trial conference.
How much time you think he will get if apprehended?
No criminal record prior to this, he "attempted" to spit on a cop when he was drunk, but didn't actually hit him with the spit.
I feel for him, he is my friend, just a young kid, scared to leave the house and think he will get years in prison or something, because it involves a cop and he panicked and didn't go to court.
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Trichome Toker said:
Dammit stop editing! I cant keep up
See responses in the quote above.
Georgia, Massachusetts, Michigan, Tennessee, and Wisconsin are the states not members of the DL Compact. I think I saw that there is pending bills to add a couple of them, so time is short for anyone who can use that. Just a matter of time before all 50 states join. Do a yahoo on interstate drivers license compact and youll find a ton of info about it and how it works. Who are members, who aren't, how states treat it, etc.
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Trichome Toker
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Thanks for the info.
This kid is in bad shape, that is why I gave such gloomy advice to the OP.
A few months ago he was walking to the 7-11, and a cop stopped him and asked him for ID.
He said he didn't have any.
They cop asked him for a name, he gave a totally made up name and DOB.
The cop said that he wasn't showing up on the computer.
The kid said that he never got a DL, had horrible eye sight/legally blind (wears glasses), and could not afford a car.
The cop asked him for his social security number, and the kid told him he couldn't remember that.
The cop said he felt uncomfortable letting him go, and that he had a right to take him down to be finger printed, and hold him until the prints came back.
He ended up letting him go, but the kid won't even leave the house now, he is an emotional disaster.
Cabin fever, super paranoid they will find out his address (stays with a distant relative), and just totally fucked up.
He talks crazy like they will never take him alive etc I am really worried about him.
I try to tell him it isn't that bad, I did less than a year for an F1, but he says since it involved a cop, and he skipped bail, he thinks he will get at least a year, and he says he won't do it.
He just got released from a very long juvenile sentence when he was around 18, and now he gets himself into this shit, he is a retard, but I still feel bad for him.
I don't know I just feel bad for him.
All this trouble for trying to spit on someone, and he doesn't even hit him?
In a perfect world the cop would have just smacked him in the face and it would have been over.
These days they don't give any breaks.
Luckily he hasn't left the state yet, I told him he will get interstate flight if he does that.
This kid is in bad shape, that is why I gave such gloomy advice to the OP.
A few months ago he was walking to the 7-11, and a cop stopped him and asked him for ID.
He said he didn't have any.
They cop asked him for a name, he gave a totally made up name and DOB.
The cop said that he wasn't showing up on the computer.
The kid said that he never got a DL, had horrible eye sight/legally blind (wears glasses), and could not afford a car.
The cop asked him for his social security number, and the kid told him he couldn't remember that.
The cop said he felt uncomfortable letting him go, and that he had a right to take him down to be finger printed, and hold him until the prints came back.
He ended up letting him go, but the kid won't even leave the house now, he is an emotional disaster.
Cabin fever, super paranoid they will find out his address (stays with a distant relative), and just totally fucked up.
He talks crazy like they will never take him alive etc I am really worried about him.
I try to tell him it isn't that bad, I did less than a year for an F1, but he says since it involved a cop, and he skipped bail, he thinks he will get at least a year, and he says he won't do it.
He just got released from a very long juvenile sentence when he was around 18, and now he gets himself into this shit, he is a retard, but I still feel bad for him.
I don't know I just feel bad for him.
All this trouble for trying to spit on someone, and he doesn't even hit him?
In a perfect world the cop would have just smacked him in the face and it would have been over.
These days they don't give any breaks.
Luckily he hasn't left the state yet, I told him he will get interstate flight if he does that.
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Sounds like he will just have to learn the hard way. That warrant won't ever go away and eventually it will catch up to him. The worst is 4 years down the road once he has a good job, a hot girlfriend, own place, car, etc. and he gets pulled over and shows up in the computer 1600 miles from the issuing state. He spends two weeks in jail just waiting for the US Marshals to pick him up to take him to their closest holding facility for another week, before they stick him on the real Con Air and drop him off in a federal penitentiary somewhere for another few weeks before moving him to the next place. He eventually (1 to 2 months later?) ends up back in the issuing court's jail, held without bond until his trial in 6 months, etc. I hope his extra few months or years of freedom were worth it.
Oh yeah, all that time he spends being moved around doesnt count toward his sentence either. Its dead time. The point is that he needs to just man up and turn himself in. If it was a misdemeanor Id say dont sweat it but that felony warrant will follow him around forever and Murphy's Law is alive and well.
Oh yeah, all that time he spends being moved around doesnt count toward his sentence either. Its dead time. The point is that he needs to just man up and turn himself in. If it was a misdemeanor Id say dont sweat it but that felony warrant will follow him around forever and Murphy's Law is alive and well.
dank vapor
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Are you guys just too high, I said hes in jail already, He was on probo and then shit when down. Hes in jail right now, I know this member personally, in real life guys!
dank vapor said:
You probably should read the new posts before you open your mouth
So just 'cause he's in jail, that means the new info supplied can't help others in the future?
dank vapor
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The first few posts were DIRECTED at my friend here, on what he should do about this OLD situation. But what do I know.
captredeye
Member
lurkocious said:
dude, so your in some trouble for a little bit of pot (from what i can tell)....
heres what you need to do:
Fire your Public Defender (if you have one)
Hire a real criminal drug lawyer (will cost money, but better in the long run)
i was facing 11-29 in lock up but by me spending 750 bucks on a lawyer and 4 court cases later im off the hook with a 1 year UNsupervised probationary period.
I wouldnt discuss anything about skippin town with your public defender, he might just turn you in or he could tell the judge your a flight risk.
I've seen a public defender flop on his client before, not even caring about his jail sentence.
krustytheclown
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dank vapor said:
Figures. What a fucking douchebag.
You mean, the guy who thinks he can get away with running from the law over a misdemeanor couldn't even finish a 6-month probation stint without getting in trouble? Gee, what surprise.
Well, dank, I suggest you stay far, far away from Poly. He's an idiot.
Do yourself a favor and lead a straight life, having nothing to do with him or his friends. Instead, finish school, go to college, get a job and smoke only when you are completely safe at home (you and 5 of your buddies in a piece of crap car driving around town doing a clambake at midnight is not safe).
