your gramps and me would have gotten along well…..
have had Karelian bear dogs…one of the breeds at least when I was working with in 80’s was still very feral and highly instinctual when it came to its job at hand….
Ovcharka…. used in Russian prisons and a guardian of stock … had few… can be very rough but lovable to owners….few Turkish Kangal, Presa Canarios…Filas…. but the little Jagdterriers from Yugoslavia are some of the hardest working dogs ever encountered… straight up make most run for cover…. buzz saw and never laughed harder watching a full grown Dane with tail tucked running for its life…
you are correct in unless a dog will fight for himself he sure as hell won’t for you…
have had Karelian bear dogs…one of the breeds at least when I was working with in 80’s was still very feral and highly instinctual when it came to its job at hand….
Ovcharka…. used in Russian prisons and a guardian of stock … had few… can be very rough but lovable to owners….few Turkish Kangal, Presa Canarios…Filas…. but the little Jagdterriers from Yugoslavia are some of the hardest working dogs ever encountered… straight up make most run for cover…. buzz saw and never laughed harder watching a full grown Dane with tail tucked running for its life…
you are correct in unless a dog will fight for himself he sure as hell won’t for you…