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f2 peach oz x ace lebanese . five individual plants. i up potted them into 5 litres. pre flowers are forming , but still too tiny to identify . couple more days i should know who is who. one plant looks like a leb , the rest look like a nice mix. i remove some of those fan leaves as i up size in pots. at this early stage , it encourages the type of growth i want and shape of plant .outdoor i would not remove any leaves .
 

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Zechariah 11 NKJV

Desolation of Israel​

11 Open your doors, O Lebanon,
That fire may devour your cedars.
2 Wail, O cypress, for the cedar has fallen,
Because the mighty trees are ruined.
Wail, O oaks of Bashan,
For the thick forest has come down.
3 There is the sound of wailing shepherds!
For their glory is in ruins.
There is the sound of roaring lions!
For the [a]pride of the Jordan is in ruins.

Prophecy of the Shepherds​

4 Thus says the Lord my God, “Feed the flock for slaughter, 5 whose owners slaughter them and feel no guilt; those who sell them say, ‘Blessed be the Lord, for I am rich’; and their shepherds do not pity them. 6 For I will no longer pity the inhabitants of the land,” says the Lord. “But indeed I will give everyone into his neighbor’s hand and into the hand of his king. They shall [b]attack the land, and I will not deliver them from their hand.”


7 So I fed the flock for slaughter, [c]in particular the poor of the flock. I took for myself two staffs: the one I called [d]Beauty, and the other I called [e]Bonds; and I fed the flock. 8 I [f]dismissed the three shepherds in one month. My soul loathed them, and their soul also abhorred me. 9 Then I said, “I will not feed you. Let what is dying die, and what is perishing perish. Let those that are left eat each other’s flesh.” 10 And I took my staff, [g]Beauty, and cut it in two, that I might break the covenant which I had made with all the peoples. 11 So it was broken on that day. Thus the[h] poor of the flock, who were watching me, knew that it was the word of the Lord. 12 Then I said to them, “If it is [i]agreeable to you, give me my wages; and if not, refrain.” So they weighed out for my wages thirty pieces of silver.


13 And the Lord said to me, “Throw it to the potter”—that princely price they set on me. So I took the thirty pieces of silver and threw them into the house of the Lord for the potter. 14 Then I cut in two my other staff, [j]Bonds, that I might break the brotherhood between Judah and Israel.


15 And the Lord said to me, “Next, take for yourself the implements of a foolish shepherd. 16 For indeed I will raise up a shepherd in the land who will not care for those who are cut off, nor seek the young, nor heal those that are broken, nor feed those that still stand. But he will eat the flesh of the fat and tear their hooves in pieces.


17 “Woe to the worthless shepherd,
Who leaves the flock!
A sword shall be against his arm
And against his right eye;
His arm shall completely wither,
And his right eye shall be totally blinded.”

Zechariah 12 NKJV

The Coming Deliverance of Judah​

12 The [a]burden of the word of the Lord against Israel. Thus says the Lord, who stretches out the heavens, lays the foundation of the earth, and forms the spirit of man within him: 2 “Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of [b]drunkenness to all the surrounding peoples, when they lay siege against Judah and Jerusalem. 3 And it shall happen in that day that I will make Jerusalem a very heavy stone for all peoples; all who would heave it away will surely be cut in pieces, though all nations of the earth are gathered against it. 4 In that day,” says the Lord, “I will strike every horse with confusion, and its rider with madness; I will open My eyes on the house of Judah, and will strike every horse of the peoples with blindness. 5 And the governors of Judah shall say in their heart, ‘The inhabitants of Jerusalem are my strength in the Lord of hosts, their God.’ 6 In that day I will make the governors of Judah like a firepan in the woodpile, and like a fiery torch in the sheaves; they shall devour all the surrounding peoples on the right hand and on the left, but Jerusalem shall be inhabited again in her own place—Jerusalem.


7 “The Lord will save the tents of Judah first, so that the glory of the house of David and the glory of the inhabitants of Jerusalem shall not become greater than that of Judah. 8 In that day the Lord will defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; the one who is feeble among them in that day shall be like David, and the house of David shall be like God, like the Angel of the Lord before them. 9 It shall be in that day that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.


Mourning for the Pierced One​

10 “And I will pour on the house of David and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem the Spirit of grace and supplication; then they will look on Me whom they pierced. Yes, they will mourn for Him as one mourns for his only son, and grieve for Him as one grieves for a firstborn. 11 In that day there shall be a great mourning in Jerusalem, like the mourning at Hadad Rimmon in the plain of [c]Megiddo. 12 And the land shall mourn, every family by itself: the family of the house of David by itself, and their wives by themselves; the family of the house of Nathan by itself, and their wives by themselves; 13 the family of the house of Levi by itself, and their wives by themselves; the family of Shimei by itself, and their wives by themselves; 14 all the families that remain, every family by itself, and their wives by themselves.

Zechariah 13 NKJV

Idolatry Cut Off​

13 “In that day a fountain shall be opened for the house of David and for the inhabitants of Jerusalem, for sin and for uncleanness.


2 “It shall be in that day,” says the Lord of hosts, “that I will cut off the names of the idols from the land, and they shall no longer be remembered. I will also cause the prophets and the unclean spirit to depart from the land. 3 It shall come to pass that if anyone still prophesies, then his father and mother who begot him will say to him, ‘You shall not live, because you have spoken lies in the name of the Lord.’ And his father and mother who begot him shall thrust him through when he prophesies.


4 “And it shall be in that day that every prophet will be ashamed of his vision when he prophesies; they will not wear a robe of coarse hair to deceive. 5 But he will say, ‘I am no prophet, I am a farmer; for a man taught me to keep cattle from my youth.’ 6 And one will say to him, ‘What are these wounds between your [a]arms?’ Then he will answer, ‘Those with which I was wounded in the house of my friends.’


The Shepherd Savior​

7 “Awake, O sword, against My Shepherd,
Against the Man who is My Companion,”
Says the Lord of hosts.
“Strike the Shepherd,
And the sheep will be scattered;
Then I will turn My hand against the little ones.
8 And it shall come to pass in all the land,”
Says the Lord,
That two-thirds in it shall be cut off and die,
But one-third shall be left in it:
9 I will bring the one-third through the fire,
Will refine them as silver is refined,
And test them as gold is tested.
They will call on My name,
And I will answer them.
I will say, ‘This is My people’;
And each one will say, ‘The Lord is my God.’ ”

Zechariah 14 NKJV

The Day of the Lord​

14 Behold, the day of the Lord is coming,
And your [a]spoil will be divided in your midst.
2 For I will gather all the nations to battle against Jerusalem;
The city shall be taken,
The houses [b]rifled,
And the women ravished.
Half of the city shall go into captivity,
But the remnant of the people shall not be cut off from the city.

3 Then the Lord will go forth
And fight against those nations,
As He fights in the day of battle.
4 And in that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives,
Which faces Jerusalem on the east.
And the Mount of Olives shall be split in two,
From east to west,
Making a very large valley;
Half of the mountain shall move toward the north
And half of it toward the south.

5 Then you shall flee through My mountain valley,
For the mountain valley shall reach to Azal.
Yes, you shall flee
As you fled from the earthquake
In the days of Uzziah king of Judah.

Thus the Lord my God will come,
And all the saints with [c]You.

6 It shall come to pass in that day
That there will be no light;
The [d]lights will diminish.
7 It shall be one day
Which is known to the Lord—
Neither day nor night.
But at evening time it shall happen
That it will be light.

8 And in that day it shall be
That living waters shall flow from Jerusalem,
Half of them toward [e]the eastern sea
And half of them toward [f]the western sea;
In both summer and winter it shall occur.
9 And the Lord shall be King over all the earth.
In that day it shall be—
“The Lord is one,”
And His name one.

10 All the land shall be turned into a plain from Geba to Rimmon south of Jerusalem. [g]Jerusalem shall be raised up and inhabited in her place from Benjamin’s Gate to the place of the First Gate and the Corner Gate, and from the Tower of Hananel to the king’s winepresses.


11 The people shall dwell in it;
And no longer shall there be utter destruction,
But Jerusalem shall be safely inhabited.

12 And this shall be the plague with which the Lord will strike all the people who fought against Jerusalem:

Their flesh shall [h]dissolve while they stand on their feet,
Their eyes shall dissolve in their sockets,
And their tongues shall dissolve in their mouths.

13 It shall come to pass in that day
That a great panic from the Lord will be among them.
Everyone will seize the hand of his neighbor,
And raise his hand against his neighbor’s hand;
14 Judah also will fight at Jerusalem.
And the wealth of all the surrounding nations
Shall be gathered together:
Gold, silver, and apparel in great abundance.

15 Such also shall be the plague
On the horse and the mule,
On the camel and the donkey,
And on all the cattle that will be in those camps.
So shall this plague be.

The Nations Worship the King​

16 And it shall come to pass that everyone who is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the Feast of Tabernacles. 17 And it shall be that whichever of the families of the earth do not come up to Jerusalem to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, on them there will be no rain. 18 If the family of Egypt will not come up and enter in, they shall have no rain; they shall receive the plague with which the Lord strikes the nations who do not come up to keep the Feast of Tabernacles. 19 This shall be the [i]punishment of Egypt and the punishment of all the nations that do not come up to keep the Feast of Tabernacles.


20 In that day “HOLINESS TO THE LORD” shall be engraved on the bells of the horses. The pots in the Lord’s house shall be like the bowls before the altar. 21 Yes, [j]every pot in Jerusalem and Judah shall be holiness to the Lord of hosts. Everyone who sacrifices shall come and take them and cook in them. In that day there shall no longer be a Canaanite in the house of the Lord of hosts.

John 14 NJKV

The Way, the Truth, and the Life​

14 “Let not your heart be troubled; you believe in God, believe also in Me. 2 In My Father’s house are many [a]mansions; if it were not so, [b]I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself; that where I am, there you may be also. 4 And where I go you know, and the way you know.”


5 Thomas said to Him, “Lord, we do not know where You are going, and how can we know the way?”


6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.


The Father Revealed​

7 “If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; and from now on you know Him and have seen Him.”


8 Philip said to Him, “Lord, show us the Father, and it is sufficient for us.”


9 Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? 10 Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father in Me? The words that I speak to you I do not speak on My own authority; but the Father who dwells in Me does the works. 11 Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father in Me, or else believe Me for the sake of the works themselves.


The Answered Prayer​

12 “Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do he will do also; and greater works than these he will do, because I go to My Father. 13 And whatever you ask in My name, that I will do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 If you [c]ask anything in My name, I will do it.


Jesus Promises Another Helper​

15 “If you love Me, [d]keep My commandments. 16 And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another [e]Helper, that He may abide with you forever— 17 the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you. 18 I will not leave you orphans; I will come to you.


Indwelling of the Father and the Son​

19 “A little while longer and the world will see Me no more, but you will see Me. Because I live, you will live also. 20 At that day you will know that I am in My Father, and you in Me, and I in you. 21 He who has My commandments and keeps them, it is he who loves Me. And he who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and [f]manifest Myself to him.”


22 Judas (not Iscariot) said to Him, “Lord, how is it that You will manifest Yourself to us, and not to the world?”


23 Jesus answered and said to him, “If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him. 24 He who does not love Me does not keep My words; and the word which you hear is not Mine but the Father’s who sent Me.


The Gift of His Peace​

25 “These things I have spoken to you while being present with you. 26 But the [g]Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you. 27 Peace I leave with you, My peace I give to you; not as the world gives do I give to you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid. 28 You have heard Me say to you, ‘I am going away and coming back to you.’ If you loved Me, you would rejoice because [h]I said, ‘I am going to the Father,’ for My Father is greater than I.


29 “And now I have told you before it comes, that when it does come to pass, you may believe. 30 I will no longer talk much with you, for the ruler of this world is coming, and he has nothing in Me. 31 But that the world may know that I love the Father, and as the Father gave Me commandment, so I do. Arise, let us go from here.

 

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small tester nug of bottomshelf haze aka scottish columbian gold ,seeds sourced midway up ben nevis
Looks like that haze has pretty good density. How many weeks is that, I think you said its about 3 weeks from being finished. Where did you get the seed?

Thinking about what to grow next year. Heavy Dayze is offering to the Patreon supporters Williams Wonder F3 and a bunch of other lines and hybrids. You have good projects going to choose from. Thought about the Deep Chunk. I'm thinking for guerilla growing, I need to be sticking to the hybrids to have more vigor for shade production.

How did the Back Triangle end up smoking?
 

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Looks like that haze has pretty good density. How many weeks is that, I think you said its about 3 weeks from being finished. Where did you get the seed?

Thinking about what to grow next year. Heavy Dayze is offering to the Patreon supporters Williams Wonder F3 and a bunch of other lines and hybrids. You have good projects going to choose from. Thought about the Deep Chunk. I'm thinking for guerilla growing, I need to be sticking to the hybrids to have more vigor for shade production.

How did the Back Triangle end up smoking?
it's at 12 weeks. id say it could go 14. the flash deceives . i have no sunlight today . very dark day.

its p.cheese x oldtimer haze .

haze have reflowerings , and a large harvest window . you can't be rigid with haze. i stagger my harvest with the haze hybrids that are haze dom
 

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oldtimer hybrids are possibly best at the f1 stage . i will make more f1s using a different oldtimer male in the future , and with these f1s i have , i can hybridise them to the p.cheese x hindukush without much issues. that will be the evolution of this combination
 

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Had one joint yesterday and one today, tomorrow would have been a full four weeks I think but hey, it's the weekend hehe.
If you want to keep tolerance low, I recommend only smoking half a joint, or using a pipe. Seems like the more buzz you catch the more tolerance goes up. I just take a puff or 2 every now and then and keep it just at a minimum but the effects are long lasting on my strain. Tolerance does begin to build by the end of the day. Also good to alternate strains as needed to reduce tolerance.
Stay away from small 1 toker pipes, use a nice glass pipe with expansion and a carburator.
my verdict on all tesla

A friend of mine who I mow for has a nice Corvette I think it is and has a custom license plate that says "Thanks Tesla" or something like that. Its crazy they drive such heavy cars, plus they have the potential for fire damage. They have charging stations at the grocery store.

Would love to get one of those armored Land Rovers! My brother likes to do 4x4 jeeping. He's in the process of switching out motors on his jeep right now.

Lots of people here have jeeps, seems like everyone has them. May be people prepping for the Day. I have to get my 4 wheel drive fixed before snow removal season.

How many inches of snow do you have there, thats crazy!

Thankfully the birds are singing here and we're in the lower 40's F about to get some light rain. Cats were out for a bit this morning. How is Meech taking the snow?


Do what you can to do some phenotype selections each round. Not sure of the numbers you are able to select from. According to Tom Hill and a few other breeders, the F2 stage is where there is some variability, but its a good place to find potential keepers that could be superior to the parents or F1's.

Could do like Icon does, run a bunch of them in 1 gallon containers for higher numbers and to be able to make some selections, then do production cycles. Also, may want to use multiple males to reduce the risk of missing desirable traits as you are not able to determine the traits the male imparts without progeny testing the male.

peach x old timers haze = muddy hay

and p.xheese x oldtimerhaze = bottomshelf haze

i can combine these together also with no issues. the f2s and so on will most likely never improve on the f1s
 

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92 days 👀... All I can think about is that electric bill. I hate going past 65 days lol
Yeah extra days is extra money and lost production time that adds up. Need to hybridize to get the resin profiles in the short flower time plants. Sativa Candy Chunk, still waiting on smoke testers. Nobody wants it for some reason.

Icon is supposed to grow it this spring. Lunchmoney got some seed and he hasn't been online since Jan 2023.

Would like to see if it would be of value to large scale production growers. Its pretty good. I really like the DC x Blueberry too and the SCC hybrid will be interesting! Everyone should focus on their own projects, but we need MORE test grows!!!!!!

Wheres all the legal growers in the 24 states? Instagram and Facebook? Why don't these people engage on ICMAG????
 

shiva82

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If you want to keep tolerance low, I recommend only smoking half a joint, or using a pipe. Seems like the more buzz you catch the more tolerance goes up. I just take a puff or 2 every now and then and keep it just at a minimum but the effects are long lasting on my strain. Tolerance does begin to build by the end of the day. Also good to alternate strains as needed to reduce tolerance.
Stay away from small 1 toker pipes, use a nice glass pipe with expansion and a carburator.

A friend of mine who I mow for has a nice Corvette I think it is and has a custom license plate that says "Thanks Tesla" or something like that. Its crazy they drive such heavy cars, plus they have the potential for fire damage. They have charging stations at the grocery store.

Would love to get one of those armored Land Rovers! My brother likes to do 4x4 jeeping. He's in the process of switching out motors on his jeep right now.

Lots of people here have jeeps, seems like everyone has them. May be people prepping for the Day. I have to get my 4 wheel drive fixed before snow removal season.

How many inches of snow do you have there, thats crazy!

Thankfully the birds are singing here and we're in the lower 40's F about to get some light rain. Cats were out for a bit this morning. How is Meech taking the snow?


Do what you can to do some phenotype selections each round. Not sure of the numbers you are able to select from. According to Tom Hill and a few other breeders, the F2 stage is where there is some variability, but its a good place to find potential keepers that could be superior to the parents or F1's.

Could do like Icon does, run a bunch of them in 1 gallon containers for higher numbers and to be able to make some selections, then do production cycles. Also, may want to use multiple males to reduce the risk of missing desirable traits as you are not able to determine the traits the male imparts without progeny testing the male.
they are bomb proof . if you lock yourself in one . nobody can get you out . mobile safe house with gun turrets lol . full rapture mobile. madmax style
 

shiva82

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Yeah extra days is extra money and lost production time that adds up. Need to hybridize to get the resin profiles in the short flower time plants. Sativa Candy Chunk, still waiting on smoke testers. Nobody wants it for some reason.

Icon is supposed to grow it this spring. Lunchmoney got some seed and he hasn't been online since Jan 2023.

Would like to see if it would be of value to large scale production growers. Its pretty good. I really like the DC x Blueberry too and the SCC hybrid will be interesting! Everyone should focus on their own projects, but we need MORE test grows!!!!!!

Wheres all the legal growers in the 24 states? Instagram and Facebook? Why don't these people engage on ICMAG????
i imagine the dc x blueberry is decent with well selected parents
 

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I think hybrids are so potent just because of the hybrid vigor. A healthy plant will reach its potential, inbred plants are slower and may take longer to accumulate potential potency since they have less vigor.

The DC x BB were resiliant and fun to watch! They were very uniform. I'm serious, this hybrid has great value. A toke or 2 and you won't need the pipe for a while. Pack a small one about half the size of a usual pipe because you won't finish it!!!! :smoke:
 
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