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Shipwreck
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This is the one I have at around 8wks. Def. has some purple potential, though not overwhelming. Very high trichome coverage. The buds are amazingly dense, super easy to trim. Too a 2ft, maybe 2.5ft untopped plant down at 7wks, dried to 70g. Smells similar to Williams Wonder (the clone only one). Have yet to get a cured smoke test. Sorry for the crappy photos, just snapped them off with my phone.
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my two cents...
the first time i ever heard the word or saw the plant ship wreck was about 15 years ago. a friend names caleb from petrolia took a trainwreck female i gave him and pollinated it with an inbred afghani line he got from his pop. the afghani line was held closely by the family and they never outcrossed the line. the vigor was lacking from the years of inbreeding and trait fixing but when you laid that male pollen into anything magic occured.
shipwreck was a line but a choice cultivar was selected and took on the shipwreck name. i remember smoking a bomber of it one night with the the crew and it took me twice as long as it normally did to make it back inland from the coast. i was literally blind. brutal cannabis for sure.
best,
30y
the first time i ever heard the word or saw the plant ship wreck was about 15 years ago. a friend names caleb from petrolia took a trainwreck female i gave him and pollinated it with an inbred afghani line he got from his pop. the afghani line was held closely by the family and they never outcrossed the line. the vigor was lacking from the years of inbreeding and trait fixing but when you laid that male pollen into anything magic occured.
shipwreck was a line but a choice cultivar was selected and took on the shipwreck name. i remember smoking a bomber of it one night with the the crew and it took me twice as long as it normally did to make it back inland from the coast. i was literally blind. brutal cannabis for sure.
best,
30y
plastochron
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my 2 cents: i don't want to knock a strain that i have not personally grown, but a friend who is a good, experienced grower pulled down a bunch of shipwreck grown under 1000w lights and the yield/quality was decent, but it had no bag appeal. had i not known its origin i would have sworn it was outdoor.
The name "shipwreck" has obviously been poached many times but the original shipwreck (as a true f1) was made in oregon around 2000. It was kept in some small circles for a couple years then eventually let out.
I used to work with the breeder and am very familiar with shipwrecks genetic background. The mother was a stabilized f6 trainwreck ibl (actually trainwreck elite x NL5 cubed once to TW mother then filial bred for TW pheno). The father was a skunk1 line that had been continually filial bred from the late eighties until the mid nineties by another well know breeder, then continued for several more years by the breeder of shipwreck.
It has a fairly short finish time 6 1/2 - 7 wks consistently and a medium to low medium yield. It is very vigorous and highly resistant to pathogens and is as foolproof of a strain as Ive ever seen. The smoke is very attractive with a lot of the trainwreck flavors coming through, and the head is a well balanced ind/sat with very good potency (usually tests out at 17-19 percent thc and well over 1 percent cbd).
I used to work with the breeder and am very familiar with shipwrecks genetic background. The mother was a stabilized f6 trainwreck ibl (actually trainwreck elite x NL5 cubed once to TW mother then filial bred for TW pheno). The father was a skunk1 line that had been continually filial bred from the late eighties until the mid nineties by another well know breeder, then continued for several more years by the breeder of shipwreck.
It has a fairly short finish time 6 1/2 - 7 wks consistently and a medium to low medium yield. It is very vigorous and highly resistant to pathogens and is as foolproof of a strain as Ive ever seen. The smoke is very attractive with a lot of the trainwreck flavors coming through, and the head is a well balanced ind/sat with very good potency (usually tests out at 17-19 percent thc and well over 1 percent cbd).
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Swampwater
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Awesome name for a strain. Too bad it has trainwreck in it.
I am doing it out again, I am pretty sure I have the one KingSwing mentioned. It def. came from Oregon. Has some slight pinkish/purplish tones under the leaves, very very crystal covered even at 4 wks. It looks very similar to your photos and finishes at 6.5-7wks, though I let the last ones go to 8wks. Do you have any tips on growing them? I am doing them topped again, 16 per 1kw in 5 gallon buckets finishing around 2.5ft from soil line. My last ones gave me 70g per roughly, that's not a bad yield if I can do that with 16 per 4x4, hell...even if i did 56g per 4x4 that's awesome!
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One last note, I noticed right away it is very resistant to over/under feedings, powdery mildew,bugs. It was also a breeze to trim with rock hard buds and the fan leaves just sort of vanished towards the end inside the buds. Everything tightened up, even lil nuggets buried under the canopy. I am debating on keeping it or not, somehow I ended up with way to many strains as of yet untested by myself, so have to start thinning the flock.
I Will go with bobthegrower ~~on this one!!
I Will go with bobthegrower ~~on this one!!
bobthegrower, I Will go with you on this one! Lol..monkey5
I Will go with bobthegrower ~~on this one!!
bobthegrower, I Will go with you on this one! Lol..monkey5
yep the pics you posted look like the real deal... the numbers your pulling are very respectable for this strain. The trick to getting big tops off of this one is timing. It tends to grow in spurts, if you can tune in and predict the next growth spurt, you can go 12/12 about a week before they jump and they will set up much better cola structure during week 1-2. One trick is to let them get very slightly pot bound so that when you transplant you will have a very dramatic (predictable) growth jump. These babies (as you know) are very vigorous/resilient and a little root-binding wont slow them down for long.
By the way Merk, you mentioned that you let yours go long (8wks). Im never one to take anything down early but I have found (repeatedly) that shipwreck doesn't seem to benefit from the extra time, the head seems to loose some of its "up" characteristics without gaining much of anything, and for us the yield levels off about 3-4 days after the larger branches start crashing.
I have only done it once at this point, 1 big mother plant and 2 smaller ones (finished about 32inches)...1 topped, 1 untopped. I currently am on my 2nd round with 4 topped, lil bit shorter though. I just took the tops from one of the girls and looks like I will get 2oz of just that. I love how hard and crystal covered it its. I let it go 8wks the first time because all my other strains did and I have not had a 6-7wk strain in years, think the last one was called Mikado(aka Sweet Pink Grapefruit aka Dynamite). My partner and I were just talking about the pros and cons of this strain and one of the big points was it's ability to navigate most any fuck up. It has sailed by overfertlizations with fox farm bloom boster that just leveled my other strains at the time. Dealt with some weird Iron toxicity from a well being unfiltered. Never had bugs. I actually had some Durban Poison and Williams Wonder side by side with it, they both got mites and eventually powdery mildew, this lass just kept on cruising. So, as best we can figure....
Pros....Fast flowering. Tight buds = less larf and shake at the end of the day. Small plants yield very well. Crystal content. Nice balanced high. Resistant to stress. Clones easily. Gets a lil color on her in cool weather. Flavor.
Cons....Slower vegging. High is not "out of this world". Def. noticed I need to cure her longer to let the subtle aromas come out (kinda like Dj Short strains).
So, when do you typically harvest yours? I am just at 6wks and the branches started flopping. Heads are about 40% amber crystals and lower branches are def. not even quite there. Do you think she does better topped or untopped? I love your root bound idea. I have been flipping them right around 16-18", you think that is good?
I have several other strains that are more "popular" but this one is just winning all around.
Thanks for your input, no one else seems to know shit about her
Pros....Fast flowering. Tight buds = less larf and shake at the end of the day. Small plants yield very well. Crystal content. Nice balanced high. Resistant to stress. Clones easily. Gets a lil color on her in cool weather. Flavor.
Cons....Slower vegging. High is not "out of this world". Def. noticed I need to cure her longer to let the subtle aromas come out (kinda like Dj Short strains).
So, when do you typically harvest yours? I am just at 6wks and the branches started flopping. Heads are about 40% amber crystals and lower branches are def. not even quite there. Do you think she does better topped or untopped? I love your root bound idea. I have been flipping them right around 16-18", you think that is good?
I have several other strains that are more "popular" but this one is just winning all around.
Thanks for your input, no one else seems to know shit about her
As far as when I harvest, its rarely even a full six weeks but I have a very well tuned space and am able to force it to finish fast. Most others that I know seem to run it six and a half weeks consistently. If you're 40% amber and starting to crash you probably wont gain much past a few more days. In fact I would bet you will notice a better high this time by not going much longer, like I was mentioning we noticed a lot of cbn conversion when running long and the high seemed to suffer noticeably. Perhaps crop your tops and give the lowers another week, they are probably mostly clear-cloudy still.
As far as topped or untopped..I usually top at around the fourth-fifth node and train horizontally, the ease of training is another great thing about this strain. I usually pinch all dominant tips 4days before 12/12 (never tip or train any later that 3 days before turn back). I rarely let mine get taller than 8-10 inches when turning back, but that is with an approx 2 1/2-3 foot spread, like I said shipwwreck will really take to training. The lack of canopy depth at turn back really helps with excessive leaf density that SW is slightly prone to.
Its def not the fastest veg but there are some tricks that help a lot. Firstly Im not sure what your vegging under but this girl slows way down with too much intensity in veg but prefers high intensity (60+w/ft) in flower. In veg I recommend t-5s @ min 2.5-3 ft above canopy. This will encourage her to reach faster and also keep her mains more plyable for training. I like to select four mains early on and gently direct them in four opposing directions to eventually make a nice square. I then give minor adjustments to maintain shape but save the major down training until they have reached a height that corresponds with the horizontal width I'm needing (when pulled down), this will keep a continual growth with out multiple interruptions from repeated down training. I start the bend as low on the plant as possible to keep the canopy flat and low this encourages more medium sized tops ultimately giving a more homogenous finished medicine.
Im totally with you on the pros of this strain... I usually tell people its not a 10 in any one regard (except maybe finish time) but its a solid 8-9 in nearly every attribute, thats very rare, Ive have worked with a lot of genetics and cant think of anything that beats sw in pure vigor and resilience. When you get this girl figured out I think you'll find that the potency can be quite good. I know many connoisseurs for whom this is one of their favorite smokes.
As far as topped or untopped..I usually top at around the fourth-fifth node and train horizontally, the ease of training is another great thing about this strain. I usually pinch all dominant tips 4days before 12/12 (never tip or train any later that 3 days before turn back). I rarely let mine get taller than 8-10 inches when turning back, but that is with an approx 2 1/2-3 foot spread, like I said shipwwreck will really take to training. The lack of canopy depth at turn back really helps with excessive leaf density that SW is slightly prone to.
Its def not the fastest veg but there are some tricks that help a lot. Firstly Im not sure what your vegging under but this girl slows way down with too much intensity in veg but prefers high intensity (60+w/ft) in flower. In veg I recommend t-5s @ min 2.5-3 ft above canopy. This will encourage her to reach faster and also keep her mains more plyable for training. I like to select four mains early on and gently direct them in four opposing directions to eventually make a nice square. I then give minor adjustments to maintain shape but save the major down training until they have reached a height that corresponds with the horizontal width I'm needing (when pulled down), this will keep a continual growth with out multiple interruptions from repeated down training. I start the bend as low on the plant as possible to keep the canopy flat and low this encourages more medium sized tops ultimately giving a more homogenous finished medicine.
Im totally with you on the pros of this strain... I usually tell people its not a 10 in any one regard (except maybe finish time) but its a solid 8-9 in nearly every attribute, thats very rare, Ive have worked with a lot of genetics and cant think of anything that beats sw in pure vigor and resilience. When you get this girl figured out I think you'll find that the potency can be quite good. I know many connoisseurs for whom this is one of their favorite smokes.
Yep, 2 ft or less it really depends on how well you get it to stretch colas. It can be a little shy about vertical growth, but this girl will screen perfectly flat with a single well timed training and without any tie down, trellis, etc. Vegging under HID will def slow down the veg rate on SW. It tends to grow very slow and bushy under intensity. Back off the veg intensity and it will go faster and have a more open habit.
Pic after training, approx 6-8 in tall x 3 ft
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Same plant about a week later 5 days in to flower
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This top down pic is just the one plant and really doesnt even get all of it in the frame
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I can expect +/- an elb per plant but that is where this strain max's out
Pic after training, approx 6-8 in tall x 3 ft
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Same plant about a week later 5 days in to flower
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This top down pic is just the one plant and really doesnt even get all of it in the frame
5days top down.jpg
I can expect +/- an elb per plant but that is where this strain max's out
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