I've had 80% of a crop eaten by bugs and I've managed to pull 100% with no losses before. Just depends on the variables: location, season environment, weather, strain genetics, local animals/pests/rippers/etc.
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I've had 80% of a crop eaten by bugs and I've managed to pull 100% with no losses before. Just depends on the variables: location, season environment, weather, strain genetics, local animals/pests/rippers/etc.
Great points, I've found in my region strain genetics are vital to pulling in a good crop without mold. Strains like C99 get eaten alive by caterpillars around here, I'll never run it again outdoors.
For those that have mold problems look into:
Guerrilla Gold crosses
The Church
Spontanica
Pineapple chunk
Blue Widow (my favorite)
Biddy Early
juuri
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I have seen those vids before, but good info!
So stay safe and NEVER GET BUSTED AGAIN !
Spray the plants early season and late July, right before they go into flowering with BT and you won't have issues with caterpillars.
FunkJungle
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To add to the list of good outdoor plants for rainy climates:
1) Blueberry- I got a Pre2k BB sativa that my boy ran last year. Did really well outdoors with very little mold.
- Also I grew out Stank Bros BB last season and did not get any mold
2) Ganja Rebel 5G's Red- also did not get any mold whatsoever with this strain
3) Chocolope- Did very well outdoors with only a little bit of mold
1) Blueberry- I got a Pre2k BB sativa that my boy ran last year. Did really well outdoors with very little mold.
- Also I grew out Stank Bros BB last season and did not get any mold
2) Ganja Rebel 5G's Red- also did not get any mold whatsoever with this strain
3) Chocolope- Did very well outdoors with only a little bit of mold
What were the finish dates on those?
I usually go solo because I only trust myself. It does make for more work, but getting in shape isn't a bad thing! I was going to pair up with a few friends years ago and this year too as a matter of fact... but the fact of the matter is that it's hard to find someone built for this shit. My friend is afraid of getting in trouble so he's hesitant to bring his 4 wheeler out into the bush... will most likely be telling him I'm not doing it anymore as a cover to my solo op. I thought I could trust my gf of all people last year and it screwed me when we broke up and I lost a full patch due to her loose lips/spite so be careful who you tell everyone!
Juuri I can tell youre smart just by your post, stick with your gut and it'll never fail you bud
FunkJungle
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BB Sat started harvesting late sept into early oct.
Stank Bros BB late Sept
5G's Red early Oct
Chocolope early Oct
Stank Bros BB late Sept
5G's Red early Oct
Chocolope early Oct
juuri
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And i think it's good to attend to your plots with different cars, use ur friends car, gf car or what ever. Because if locals see the exact same car going to the location or parked at the side of the road there is much bigger chance that they will remember mark and model if LEO finds your garden.
And they would be wondering why is that car parked at the side of the road middle of nowhere..
And they would be wondering why is that car parked at the side of the road middle of nowhere..
great point juuri
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?threadid=88022
^for anyone looking into gravity-fed irrigation out in the bush check out BACKCOUNTRY'S thread on a few different methods he's used in the past. Great stuff right here guys!
^for anyone looking into gravity-fed irrigation out in the bush check out BACKCOUNTRY'S thread on a few different methods he's used in the past. Great stuff right here guys!
greenpinky
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If ur plants are almost done and u fill they can go a few more weeks...don't risk it.... harvest them... 2x I've learned the hard way... animals love ripe bud as much as we do
The disadvantages of working with a partner can be many. I think help should be reserved for grows that you simply can't manage the logistics of by yourself (hundreds/thousands of plants/distance too far/etc). In terms of choosing a partner I think nothing is more important than discretion. I'd much rather have someone who I know would go to jail before ratting me out than some acquaintance who is an expert grower but I have no experience with. It sounds strange to prefer to work with criminals but someone who has gone to prison before gives me a lot of confidence that they aren't going to slip up and say/do something stupid.
Depending the scale of a grow you are doing working with a partner is necessary! Trimming high ammounts of ganja can be a pain in the ass by itself. Partner definitely can make things smoother, however, trust needs to be there in order for things to work. Someone with the same mentality as you, that are willing to follow the gameplan and not bitch out! 
Hows everyone preparation for this year been going, I gotta admit things been slow for me, but soon to change, last year we had a too early start which kinda screwed us (re-veg plants)...
Anyone start popping seeds yet? It's about that sweet point in time now. Weather is just starting to turn warmer...
It's important to be aware of the hunting seasons, it can be benefitial and a disavantage. I know turkey season is just around the corner, you can use that as an alibi but be aware of hunters in the wood while doing prep work.
Anyone preping sites and mixing dirt? What are your dirt mixes looking like?
I usually do 1 bale peat moss, 1 big bag of perlite and around 25 gallons of compost.
1 cup of organic fert per CU, 1 cup of mineral per CU, and 1 cup of lime/gypsum per CU
Prep the spots early, so animals can dig up and inspect the spots before plants go in and you don't lose your plants.
Before flowering beggins just top dress a bit each plant.
Comes to about $40 per 100 gallons of soil.
Had good success last year with this. This year most of the work is already cut out, just add a few more spots and add organic ferts to old spots.
Would like to know what everyone else is using and wish everyone a great season.
Don't puss out and put the work in, cuz in the end its all worth it.
Hows everyone preparation for this year been going, I gotta admit things been slow for me, but soon to change, last year we had a too early start which kinda screwed us (re-veg plants)...
Anyone start popping seeds yet? It's about that sweet point in time now. Weather is just starting to turn warmer...
It's important to be aware of the hunting seasons, it can be benefitial and a disavantage. I know turkey season is just around the corner, you can use that as an alibi but be aware of hunters in the wood while doing prep work.
Anyone preping sites and mixing dirt? What are your dirt mixes looking like?
I usually do 1 bale peat moss, 1 big bag of perlite and around 25 gallons of compost.
1 cup of organic fert per CU, 1 cup of mineral per CU, and 1 cup of lime/gypsum per CU
Prep the spots early, so animals can dig up and inspect the spots before plants go in and you don't lose your plants.
Before flowering beggins just top dress a bit each plant.
Comes to about $40 per 100 gallons of soil.
Had good success last year with this. This year most of the work is already cut out, just add a few more spots and add organic ferts to old spots.
Would like to know what everyone else is using and wish everyone a great season.
Don't puss out and put the work in, cuz in the end its all worth it.
So with a partner you can trim twice as much as you could by yourself, but then your partner gets half so you end up with the same amount as if you did it by yourself.
Doesn't make sense.
Like being able to grow 50 plants by yourself but with a partner you could do 100 between you.
But then your partner gets half so you get 50 for yourself.
What's the point?
Better do it by yourself and get the same result and you eliminate the possibility of your partner talking, or even worse taking his mates out to the grow to show him "yours and his grow".
True that, however, sometimes you can't make it to the spot and your partner can do it for you and vice versa... For me it always worked out good. And I have no problem splitting a crop with someone that put in as much work as me and helped me reach my goals, while I helped them reach theirs.
Plus you have someone to talk to while trimming
can get very boring after the 2nd day of trimming non-stop. But yeah, for each their own, not necessary, but it can be done, its hard finding someone trust-worthy to do it tho. But yeah, I'm not 100% sure it's worth it but thats the way it works out for me.
Another important thing, and it's often overlooked, is getting to know your grow area.
As any special forces will tell you, intelligence on the enemy is vital.
You need to know who goes to your grow area, when and why.
This can only be done by spending a lot of time in the area, and patrolling around your grow area, looking for signs of previous or current grows, signs that people have been there (footprints, campfires etc.)
After a few years you would have spent enough time in the area to hopefully have it sussed out.
Some people have said that they move to a new location each year, but I think stick with what you know, if it didn't get found this year then it must be an ok spot, so I stick with it, rather than take a chance on some new spot that I don't have intelligence on.
If you do think your spot may have been discovered then maybe give that spot a rest next year, and come back to it the year after if all seems good.
As any special forces will tell you, intelligence on the enemy is vital.
You need to know who goes to your grow area, when and why.
This can only be done by spending a lot of time in the area, and patrolling around your grow area, looking for signs of previous or current grows, signs that people have been there (footprints, campfires etc.)
After a few years you would have spent enough time in the area to hopefully have it sussed out.
Some people have said that they move to a new location each year, but I think stick with what you know, if it didn't get found this year then it must be an ok spot, so I stick with it, rather than take a chance on some new spot that I don't have intelligence on.
If you do think your spot may have been discovered then maybe give that spot a rest next year, and come back to it the year after if all seems good.
Everytime I see a car stopped by the side of the road in the forest straight away I think, is that someone tending their grow?
If you have to drive to your grow then maybe park half a mile before or after your grow, and walk along the road till you get to your jump off spot.
Rippers are mostly lazy, although some will put a lot of work into finding your grow if they suspect it's out there, so most will just walk in where your car is parked and search that immediate area and give up when they don't find anything.
You could also leave a note under your windshield wiper saying something like, not broken down, gone mushroom picking. Because leo will sometimes stop at parked cars with no-one in them and check them out.
One thing to remember with guerrilla growing is YOU CAN SHAPE THE ALTERNATIVES!
It is not all up to fate.
You can take steps to make your grow had to find.
I had one grow of 30 plants that you couldn't see from 5 metres away, someone had to walk right upon it to find it.
But I have come accross other peoples grows that are in a big clearing and you could see them from 100 metres away.
Scout the land well and find a good spot for a start.
Don't leave trails and make sure you don't get spotted coming and going from your grow area.
Knowing what pests are likely to attack your crop comes from experience growing in that area. Rats can wipe out a whole crop, but they are not in all areas, and you can take precuations to minimise your losses. Eg. plastic tubes around the stem, putting down rat baits.
Other areas have deer, and you will need a fence. Forget dog hair and scented soap, they are not guaranted remedies, you need a fence to guarantee they wont eat your plants.
You only get one opportunity for that year, so don't take chances on things that may not work all the time.
You usually only know what pests you are going to have to deal with by growing in that area and finding out what happens.
One patch might have heaps of caterpillars and another patch might have none.
One site might tend to mold and anothe patch might have no mold problems whatsoever.
So if you have a failure at one patch one year then stick with that patch and work out what you need to do next year to overcome that problem.
The percentage of grows that get ripped or wiped out by pests varies by the grower, and also the area they are growing, so everyones experiences will be different.
I have never had a grow ripped, well one actually, but that wasn't one of my regular sites, I just put that in after the others were planted out for shits and giggles.
I called it the "gamble patch" because it was close to civilisation and could easily have been found, and I didn't care if it was or not as I had my main spots which were further out and isolated, I just did it as a fun experiment to see if it made it throught.
And it got found because there was a bushfire and the fire dept. helicopter flew over it and saw it, and obviously reported it to leo.
Mold and caterpillars caused me my biggest losses.
But if you have a number of sites then you will always get something.
It's way safer than indoor, you sleep well knowing that if leo busts down your door they will find nothing, and if they find the plants outdoors they will just pull them up, they rarely stake them out.
Your biggest risks are transporting the seedlings to the site and bringing home the harvest.
Leo is unlikely to bust you at your grow, just take a few precautions, make sure you aren't followed in, and just spend the minumum time in your grow, just water them and then get the fuck out straight away, don't sit amongst the plants and smoke a joint while you admire them.
And one other thing, never think you are alone out there, you might think it's quiet and peaceful and no-one is around, but you just never know.
So don't have the transistor radio going while you sing along with it while you are pottering around your site. You might look up to find you have an unexpected visitior.
Maintain silence at all times. Your ears are your best warning system in the woods, you can hear someone from a distance, long before you can see them.
You want to hear them but you don't want them to be the ones hearing you.
Be silent and keep the advantage.
I have had a couple of guys walk past 10 metres away while I was in one of my grows, I could hear them talking as they walked along the stream. My grow was back a bit from the stream so they couldn't see it.
So that's another point, people follow streams and creeks along, so if growing near one set it back from the stream so it's out of site.
Another grow twice I had someone walk past about 15 metres away, I could hear them because there were flat rocks there and you could hear their footfalls on the rocks.
That spot never got found, that's the spot I metioned earlier which you couldn't see from more than 5 metres away.
