Shaking that "ineveitable" feeling..

[Guest]

I dont know if many of you feel this way,I'm sure folks in legal states dont give it a second thought.I've taken just about every precaution imaginable,have a near perfect setup and have been growing constantly for 6 years now.Everything seems cool,I couldnt have been smarter about it I dont think.Then why the hell do I always carry this feeling that someday I'm going to have to pay for all this,it really takes the fun away sometimes.Its just a permaturd stuck in my gut,I hate it but cant seem to do a thing about it.I've fancied when they do come I want to be like Newman on Seinfeld when he kidnapped the dog,have a cigarette hanging from the corner of my mouth and say,"what took you so long"?In reality I'll probably sob and cry like a schoolgirl.I try working hard around here teaching people to grow their own in the hope someday they can do it free from any guilt or fear,maybe it'll be in my lifetime who knows.I'd more than gladly give the gov't 50% of what I gross just to shake this guilty fearful feeling,its too lucrative anyway and that probably adds to me questioning myself at times.Why are both the gov't and me unhappy with the situation when it could be changed to suit us both?Camping with the convicts is something I want to avoid again at all costs.State of Va took 17 months of my 19 year old life over cannabis once and man I'm trying to avoid that scene again.I'm too old now,advantage is I aint as pretty as I used to be lol.Man I shouldnt even think this way

 

[pieceofmyheart]

My advice, go to the NORML site and find an attorney from your state and call. Tell them your situation, how many plants you have and your past trouble with the law. Find out exactly how much trouble there would be should you get busted.

Then remember, are your fears of getting caught unfounded? Is there anyway you could get narced on? if not, if you are stealth and quiet about your small grow, then how are the cops gonna find out anyway?

Be reasonable with yourself and in your head, paranoia can be a good thing but it can also be a very unreasonable emotion.

 

[Guest]

My fears are unfounded,but I am guilty.I'm just a little goofed in the head this morning lol.If only the gov't would tax the fuck out of me,I wouldnt be.

 

[pieceofmyheart]

It sucks that we can't enjoy the fruits of our labor without looking over our shoulders all the time man.

Try to chill out and enjoy.

 

[marx2k]

When I was growing back in the day, the times I wanted to tear down my flowering ladies most is when I was high.

Keep your head about you and as long as you're stealth and you don't rent, you should be a-ok.

Of course, a fire breaking out is the best way of getting caught.

 

[Guest]

I dont know if many of you feel this way,I'm sure folks in legal states dont give it a second thought.I've taken just about every precaution imaginable,have a near perfect setup and have been growing constantly for 6 years now.Everything seems cool,I couldnt have been smarter about it I dont think.Then why the hell do I always carry this feeling that someday I'm going to have to pay for all this,it really takes the fun away sometimes.Its just a permaturd stuck in my gut,I hate it but cant seem to do a thing about it.I've fancied when they do come I want to be like Newman on Seinfeld when he kidnapped the dog,have a cigarette hanging from the corner of my mouth and say,"what took you so long"?In reality I'll probably sob and cry like a schoolgirl.I try working hard around here teaching people to grow their own in the hope someday they can do it free from any guilt or fear,maybe it'll be in my lifetime who knows.I'd more than gladly give the gov't 50% of what I gross just to shake this guilty fearful feeling,its too lucrative anyway and that probably adds to me questioning myself at times.Why are both the gov't and me unhappy with the situation when it could be changed to suit us both?Camping with the convicts is something I want to avoid again at all costs.State of Va took 17 months of my 19 year old life over cannabis once and man I'm trying to avoid that scene again.I'm too old now,advantage is I aint as pretty as I used to be lol.Man I shouldnt even think this way

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bob, if you didn't feel that way then that would be fukt up man. you have that feelin cuz you already gave time up and know exactely what it means.
i gave 2 yrs myself and know where the very last place on earth on earth i wanna be is. i feel yer pain man. yesterday as i was drivin on the interstate w/2 elbows thinkin bout my 7 yr old son and conjurin up all kinds of ideas and scenerios in my own stoner(but productive) head all i do is wonder if it's all really worth it. gettin caught would suck elephant balls but i also justify it by makin sure my boy will have a more comfortable life than i had and enuff dough to go to college and beyond. screw archaic laws and titey witey wearin, snot nose, suck ass, do gooder cops, prosecuters and judges. i'm doin what i hafta do to make a life. if i go away, i go away knowin i did what i know how to do and did it well. if i dont get caught then i'll be proud i did what i know how and did it well. be as safe as you can man.
wm

 

[Guest]

We should all be able to do what we do best and enjoy most so long as its not harming anyone,changing to R/o and getting a co2 controller recently has shown me what I can do now,I'm defiantely in the wrong state.I should be helping people I'm not doing this for the money,honestly I've found myself a single homeowner in his 40's with no kids wife,real responsibilities,hey did I just die and go to heaven lol?Really man I just need to last now,there's going to be oppurtunity for me to do this legitamitly someday somewhere that catches my fancy.Right now except for Texas lol,I couldnt be in a worse state..

 

[Guest]

Isn't that the worst? I recently completed my second grow and dismantled, according to plan, and the final month, two weeks or so I remember thinking "If I get busted its going to be in the next x weeks, get ready mofo"

horrible vibrations in this place

 

[marx2k]

Theres nothing more relaxing than the feeling of finishing up a harvest and only having vegging little ones or nothing at all for the time being.

Theres nothing more anxiety provoking than being high and staring at your closet rainforest and considering the penalties for each gram of it

 

[Guest]

agreed 100%, couldn't have said it better myself. I just tore down my grow for now, and my god is it a weight off my shoulders. At least everything turned out.

 

[kokua]

My advice, go to the NORML site and find an attorney from your state and call. Tell them your situation, how many plants you have and your past trouble with the law. Find out exactly how much trouble there would be should you get busted.

Then remember, are your fears of getting caught unfounded? Is there anyway you could get narced on? if not, if you are stealth and quiet about your small grow, then how are the cops gonna find out anyway?

Be reasonable with yourself and in your head, paranoia can be a good thing but it can also be a very unreasonable emotion.

...lawyer client privilege is one thing...but this doesn't qualify.

Attorney-client communications made “in further-ance of” a future or ongoing crime may not be shielded by the privilege, of course, is not new law. It was recognized by the U.S. Supreme Court as early as 1891, when the court stated in dicta that “if a client applies to a legal adviser for advice intended to facilitate or to guide the client in the commission of a crime or fraud, the legal adviser being ignorant of the purpose for which his advice is wanted,” the communication is not privileged.

The lawyer is going to tell you what the website tells you. If you want to call anyway...remember you have a friend that grows and wanted you to call for him... Make sure you call from a public phone that can't be traced to you

 

[JJScorpio]

I know someday something is going to happen beyond my control and I could get caught. Either a fire, utility problem or something else will happen when Im not home. There are times when my wife and I come home and one of us tells the other to picture 8 or 10 cops in the driveway. We laugh about it but we know it can happen. We have gone over the scenario many times and know what to say.

I think its when you stop being afraid that you will get caught. Fear is part of the game and when you are doing something that will take away your freedom it is normal to be afraid.....

 

[EZB581]

I know exactly what You folks mean! I recently got way overconcerned over a totally unrelated situation. I right off thought the worst.

 

[Dr.Kevorkian]

if your not paranoid your not doing something right.

 

[bergerbuddy]

...lawyer client privilege is one thing...but this doesn't qualify.



The lawyer is going to tell you what the website tells you. If you want to call anyway...remember you have a friend that grows and wanted you to call for him... Make sure you call from a public phone that can't be traced to you

Read this guys post.. he knows what he is talking about.. And the part about the friend.. vs. sayin its you... THATS IMPORTANT!!

Peace

 

[pieceofmyheart]

Well I am not stupid, I wouldn't tell them who I am. I'm just saying instead of worrying yourself into a tizzy and not being able to enjoy your grow, educate yourself. Find out exactly what would happen to you in the state where you are.
We are all somewhat paranoid.....but if it it so much that you can't enjoy your herb, then maybe it isn't worth growing.




Trust me the attorney's that work with NORML distaste for this situation is as much as yours.

 

[Guest]

I just hope to become legitiment someday,It'll take moving from this state for sure and I wont do that until my mom is gone,thats the only way I'm ever going to be comfortable with this.I can understand why people just want to make a ton of money on this,the current prohibition really demands it if you think about it.I dont want to be a modern day bootlegger though lol,I'm luckier than most financially and I'd rather just be able to help people.I normally do well when I set my mind to something,I've put far more hours in studying horticulture than I ever did studying for my journeyman's electrical test,and it aint easy.I'm good at this,but after 6 years non-stop I better be huh?Either the good thing is going to happen and I'll grow without fear and guilt or the bad things gonna happen and I get nailed before that happens, a lot of that probably has to do with how fast I get outta here lol

 

[mtnjohn]

...lawyer client privilege is one thing...but this doesn't qualify.

actually kokua....yes , it does qualify

“if a client applies to a legal adviser for advice intended to facilitate or to guide the client in the commission of a crime or fraud, the legal adviser being ignorant of the purpose for which his advice is wanted,” the communication is not privileged.

^^^^this whole statement does not apply
as the advice sought is not intended to further a crime, but rather to
determine the legal ramifications of engaing in an illegal activity

The lawyer is going to tell you what the website tells you. If you want to call anyway...remember you have a friend that grows and wanted you to call for him... Make sure you call from a public phone that can't be traced to you

c'mon man......i mean , do you think that all attorneys in the "NORML"
directory are givin a boiler plate answer to any questions he may recv.

if you were to call one of these "NORML" attorneys...i'm sure he would give you his own honest "take" on the situation .

all of the attorneys that are listed on NORML's website
are listed there because they want to be...that tells me that they may have a presonal interest in the legalisation of MJ...

but yea......call from a pay phone ....

mj

 

[kokua]

ok man... lol You call if you want

I am not a lawyer and I don't play one on ICmag...if you want to play around with that...it is your business, but I would be EXTRA careful.

 

[kokua]

and yes...if you called a lawyer and told them what POMH suggested we tell them...that would most definately qualify