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September 11, 2001 - Never Forget..

Ringodoggie

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You fools. Don't you know anything? JFK is still alive and planned the entire thing.

Geeze, I can't believe you guys believe those other stupid theories and won't believe the simple truth. It's plain as day. His license plate was PREZ-1. If that doesn't prove to you that he was 100% responsible for 911, you are blind.






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Hermanthegerman

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I don´t believe Conspiracy theories in this case. I met in real life the landlord of the Atta Terror cell from Hamburg. The german Police intorrogated him about his tenants. And this is a fact. The terrorists were real and no conspiracy Theory.
 

Rocky Mtn Squid

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More Americans Questioning Official 9/11 Story

More Americans Questioning Official 9/11 Story

More Americans Questioning Official 9/11 Story As New Evidence Contradicts Official Narrative

Today the event that defined the United States’ foreign policy in the 21st century, and heralded the destruction of whole countries, turns 18. The events of September 11, 2001 remains etched into the memories of Americans and many others, as a collective tragedy that brought Americans together and brought as well a general resolve among them that those responsible be brought to justice.

While the events of that day did unite Americans in these ways for a time, the different trajectories of the official relative to the independent investigations into the September 11 attacks have often led to division in the years since 2001, with vicious attacks or outright dismissal being levied against the latter.

Yet, with 18 years having come and gone — and with the tireless efforts from victims’ families, first responders, scientists and engineers — the tide appears to be turning, as new evidence continues to emerge and calls for new investigations are made. However, American corporate media has remained largely silent, preferring to ignore new developments that could derail the “official story” of one of the most iconic and devastating attacks to ever occur on American soil.

For instance, in late July, commissioners for a New York-area Fire Department, which responded to the attacks and lost one of their own that day, called for a new investigation into the events of September 11. On July 24, the board of commissioners for the Franklin Square and Munson Fire District, which serves a population of around 30,000 near Queens, voted unanimously in their call for a new investigation into the attacks.

While the call for a new investigation from a NY Fire Department involved in the rescue effort would normally seem newsworthy to the media outlets who often rally Americans to “never forget,” the commissioners’ call for a new investigation was met with total silence from the mainstream media. The likely reason for the dearth of coverage on an otherwise newsworthy vote was likely due to the fact that the resolution that called for the new investigation contained the following clause:

Whereas, the overwhelming evidence presented in said petition demonstrates beyond any doubt that pre-planted explosives and/or incendiaries — not just airplanes and the ensuing fires — caused the destruction of the three World Trade Center buildings, killing the vast majority of the victims who perished that day;”

In the post-9/11 world, those who have made such claims, no matter how well-grounded their claims may be, have often been derided and attacked as “conspiracy theorists” for questioning the official claims that the three World Trade Center buildings that collapsed on September 11 did so for any reason other than being struck by planes and from the resulting fires. Yet, it is much more difficult to launch these same attacks against members of a fire department that lost a fireman on September 11 and many of whose members were involved with the rescue efforts of that day, some of whom still suffer from chronic illnesses as a result.

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Another likely reason that the media monolithically avoided coverage of the vote was out of concern that it would lead more fire departments to pass similar resolutions, which would make it more difficult for such news to avoid gaining national coverage. Yet, Commissioner Christopher Gioia, who drafted and introduced the resolution, told those present at the meeting’s conclusion that getting all of the New York fire districts onboard was their plan anyway.

“We’re a tight-knit community and we never forget our fallen brothers and sisters. You better believe that when the entire fire service of New York State is on board, we will be an unstoppable force,” Gioia said. “We were the first fire district to pass this resolution. We won’t be the last,” he added.

While questioning the official conclusions of the first federal investigation into 9/11 has been treated as taboo in the American media landscape for years, it is worth noting that even those who led the commission have said that the investigation was “set up to fail” from the start and that they were repeatedly misled and lied to by federal officials in relation to the events of that day.

For instance, the chair and vice-chair of the 9/11 Commission, Thomas Kean and Lee Hamilton, wrote in their book Without Precedent that not only was the commission starved of funds and its powers of investigation oddly limited, but that they were obstructed and outright lied to by top Pentagon officials and officials with the Federal Aviation Authority (FAA). They and other commissioners have outright said that the “official” report on the attacks is incomplete, flawed and unable to answer key questions about the terror attacks.

Despite the failure of American corporate media to report these facts, local legislative bodies in New York, beginning with the fire districts that lost loved ones and friends that day, are leading the way in the search for real answers that even those that wrote the “official story” say were deliberately kept from them.



Persuasive scientific evidence continues to roll in
Not long after the Franklin Square and Munson Fire District called for a new 9/11 investigation, a groundbreaking university study added even more weight to the commissioners’ call for a new look at the evidence regarding the collapse of three buildings at the World Trade Center complex. While most Americans know full well that the twin towers collapsed on September 11, fewer are aware that a third building — World Trade Center Building 7 — also collapsed. That collapse occurred seven hours after the twin towers came down, even though WTC 7, or “Building 7,” was never struck by a plane.

It was not until nearly two months after its collapse that reports revealed that the CIA had a “secret office” in WTC 7 and that, after the building’s destruction, “a special CIA team scoured the rubble in search of secret documents and intelligence reports stored in the station, either on paper or in computers.” WTC 7 also housed offices for the Department of Defense, the Secret Service, the New York Mayor’s Office of Emergency Management and the bank Salomon Brothers.

Though the official story regarding the collapse of WTC 7 cites “uncontrolled building fires” as leading to the building’s destruction, a majority of Americans who have seen the footage of the 47-story tower come down from four different angles overwhelmingly reject the official story, based on a new poll conducted by YouGov on behalf of Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth and released on Monday.

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That poll found that 52 percent of those who saw the footage were either sure or suspected that the building’s fall was due to explosives and was a controlled demolition, with 27 percent saying they didn’t know what to make of the footage. Only 21 percent of those polled agreed with the official story that the building collapsed due to fires alone. Prior to seeing the footage, 36 percent of respondents said that they were unaware that a third building collapsed on September 11 and more than 67 percent were unable to name the building that had collapsed.

Ted Walter, Director of Strategy and Development for Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth, told MintPress that the lack of awareness about WTC 7 among the general public “goes to show that the mainstream media has completely failed to inform the American people about even the most basic facts related to 9/11. On any other day in history, if a 47-story skyscraper fell into its footprint due to ‘office fires,’ everyone in the country would have heard about it.”

The fact that the media chose not to cover this, Walter asserted, shows that “the mainstream media and the political establishment live in an alternative universe and the rest of the American public is living in a different universe and responding to what they see in front of them,” as reflected by the results of the recent YouGov poll.

Another significant finding of the YouGov poll was that 48 percent of respondents supported, while only 15 percent opposed, a new investigation into the events of September 11. This shows that not only was the Franklin Square Fire District’s recent call for a new investigation in line with American public opinion, but that viewing the footage of WTC 7’s collapse raises more questions than answers for many Americans, questions that were not adequately addressed by the official investigation of the 9/11 Commission.

The Americans who felt that the video footage of WTC 7’s collapse did not fit with the official narrative and appeared to show a controlled demolition now have more scientific evidence to fall back on after the release of a new university study found that the building came down not due to fire but from “the near-simultaneous failure of every column in the building.” The extensive four-year study was conducted by the Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering at the University of Alaska and used complex computer models to determine if the building really was the first steel-framed high-rise ever to have collapsed solely due to office fires.

The study, currently available as a draft, concluded that “uncontrolled building fires” did not lead the building to fall into its footprint — tumbling more than 100 feet at the rate of gravity free-fall for 2.5 seconds of its seven-second collapse — as has officially been claimed. Instead, the study — authored by Dr. J. Leroy Hulsey, Dr. Feng Xiao and Dr. Zhili Quan — found that “fire did not cause the collapse of WTC 7 on 9/11, contrary to the conclusions of NIST [National Institute of Standards and Technology] and private engineering firms that studied the collapse,” while also concluding “that the collapse of WTC 7 was a global [i.e., comprehensive] failure involving the near-simultaneous failure of every column in the building.”

This “near-simultaneous failure of every column” in WTC 7 strongly suggests that explosives were involved in its collapse, which is further supported by the statements made by Barry Jennings, the then-Deputy Director of Emergency Services Department for the New York City Housing Authority. Jennings told a reporter the day of the attack that he and Michael Hess, then-Corporation Counsel for New York City, had heard and seen explosions in WTC 7 several hours prior to its collapse and later repeated those claims to filmmaker Dylan Avery. The first responders who helped rescue Jennings and Hess also claimed to have heard explosions in WTC 7. Jennings died in 2008, two days prior the release of the official NIST report blaming WTC 7’s collapse on fires. To date, no official cause of death for Jennings has been given.



Still “crazy” after all these years?
Eighteen years after the September 11 attacks, questioning the official government narrative of the events of those days still remains taboo for many, as merely asking questions or calling for a new investigation into one of the most important events in recent American history frequently results in derision and dismissal.

Yet, this 9/11 anniversary — with a new study demolishing the official narrative on WTC 7, with a new poll showing that more than half of Americans doubt the government narrative on WTC 7, and with firefighters who responded to 9/11 calling for a new investigation — is it still “crazy” to be skeptical of the official story?

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Even in years past, when asking difficult questions about September 11 was even more “off limits,” it was often first responders, survivors and victims’ families who had asked the most questions about what had really transpired that day and who have led the search for truth for nearly two decades — not wild-eyed “conspiracy theorists,” as many have claimed.

The only reason it remains taboo to ask questions about the official narrative, whose own authors admit that it is both flawed and incomplete, is that the dominant forces in the American media and the U.S. government have successfully convinced many Americans that doing so is not only dangerous but irrational and un-American.

However, as evidence continues to mount that the official narrative itself is the irrational narrative, it becomes ever more clear that the reason for this media campaign is to prevent legitimate questions about that day from receiving the scrutiny they deserve, even smearing victims’ families and ailing first responders to do so. For too long, “Never Forget” has been nearly synonymous with “Never Question.”

Yet, failing to ask those questions — even when more Americans than ever now favor a new investigation and discount the official explanation for WTC 7’s collapse — is the ultimate injustice, not only to those who died in New York City on September 11, but those who have been killed in their names in the years that have followed.


Source: https://www.mintpressnews.com/americans-questioning-official-september-11-new-wtc-7-evidence/261744/



RMS

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The Saudis' part in 9/11 was also scrubbed from the original 9/11 report. There's lots of info from what I believe are credible sources re. funding by the/a Saudi Royal Family member(s) re. the alleged hijackers.

Former FBI Agent Colleen Rowley was punished for outing the fact that she had asked her supervisor, Agent Bowman, for permission to open Moussaoui's lap-top. Bowman later received a plaque and $25,000 bonus from the GW Bush Administration.

The calls from cops in the SW USA who reported the oddity to the FBI that there were foreign folks who were interested in learning to fly, but not landing or taking off in 747s, engaged in flight school; ignored by the FBI.

GW Bush's cabinet and security gurus being briefed months in advance about intercepted communications about using planes as missiles, went on the 'ignore' pile.

I've read a fair bit of discussion and supposed data in this discussion, long ago and recently, and am not an engineer, a physicist, or anything else.

Anecdotally, there was one plane I know of, outed in American Rifleman magazine, involving a pilot I know of (in a Super Cub) who ignored the no fly order during that time. He later got into hot water with the FAA when the author of the article mentioned him flying during the 'no-fly' period.

On that morning, I alienated a number of long-time friends and acquaintances; I was not simply angry at the alleged terrorists. I was, in macro-perspective, angry at those who treat the world as their own personal oyster, go where they are not welcome, do what they do by supporting and bribing despots with our tax dollars and other monies, and light proverbial fires that become the deaths of untold numbers of civilians by the time the dust settles, laughing all the way to the bank.

Having lost all of my family of origin to deaths inflicted by their own hands, in one way or another, to find myself the morning of 9/11/01 watching folks who had gone to work with little or no intention of ending their own lives, be placed in a position of choosing between burning alive in the flames and smoke, or diving to the pavement WAY below, was a moment of tears and silence.

I was very moved and angry that day. but not in the simplistic nationalistic manner most I knew were. I was angry at the plays that began decades ago that would bring us here, and a public so caught up in their own self-interests as to not engage in their civic responsibilities, to the point that such vermin can run this whole world.

'We' began opposing what would become the USA PATRIOT ACT before most of the politically aware folks I knew were clued in to it being on paper. Parts of the requests for extra-legal power in that piece of shit document went back close to 50 years, previously requested by a number of federal law enforcement and intel agencies. They were the winners that day; they got their fascist wish-list for Christmas in October, by Congress passing a giant 400+ page bill that few had even read. Section 215 and its totalitarian reality is still with us today.

Our crew here got the 22nd resolution in the US, from a nearly all-republican city council, questioning and opposing the USAPA. Despite the numbers of such resolutions across the Country, the bill would often be renewed, over and over, by congress folks who pretended to be on our side of that debate.

There were way more than Americans who died that day,. It was not just about Americans. The World Trade Center is a symbol of the globalists' and their disregard for others. But working in the Towers that day were Americans, Canadians, and others in lesser numbers, from various countries around the world.

I have never been, nor will I ever be, a nationalist. I had no say or power to decide where my mother was standing, on whose turf, when her water broke, and I popped out, initially being born dead. The fact that I was born in the USA is by no doing of my own.

As to 'innocents', I'm more skeptical. If you live in a country where change and management of government is possible, and built into the schematic of civic responsibility and mechanisms, and you've sat back while the Beast has grown out of control and insensitive, doing nothing by eating popcorn, or watching sports, sit-coms, etc., then you share the burden of what goes down. In that regard, there are few innocents, imo, older than age 16-18 y.o. If you're old enough to have taken a stand and said something, and didn't, then you're a part of the problem.

In the end, as I have contended for going on 2 decades now, if 9/11 really was a false flag, an inside job, and folks get beyond the identification of 'how,' to the identification of who and when, beyond ANY reasonable doubt what so ever, then who ever ordered or carried out the attacks should be hunted down and killed as ruthlessly and painfully as possible, publicly, on social media, no matter where they can be found.

And yes, our own worshipped and 'honored military' shares in the death tolls for civilians around the world. I do not celebrate many of those dates. Beyond those I knew who were drafted to conflicts where they had far less choice in supporting a government bent on propagandizing their sins, those who partake in nationalism, agreeing to kill on command, on a volunteer basis, create their own karma by doing so.

Bless all the dead who died needlessly, before their times, whose dreams and life aspirations were brought to a premature end by someone else's bullshit. Flags and nationality don't change the reality of what that really is.

And now I'm headed in to find a Doc, and get back to packing for what is now a combination fishing and hunting trip with my younger son, whom I hope will never serve a dishonest government entity as long as he lives.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gfcfdt0jcWs
 

Rocky Mtn Squid

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I'm out of K+.....will return when I'm reloaded to give to give you some.

As always, you have have something intelligent to say...... :tiphat:

Glad you're still around and posting.

RMS

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herbgreen

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I watched a video with Jesse Ventura I think and it was mentioned that all the wreckage steel
was sent to China to be melted prior to it being tested for explosives. What are they hiding?

Holes in the steel evidence of thermite explosives

It being considered an 'act of war' no formal investigation of 911 will ever happen

In 2011 the govt neatly closed the book on 911 by executing Usama Bin Laden

There may be a clue to who's responsible for 911 in first letters of his name

Anyway, its something that they want buried

Buildings dont drop like they are on rails at free fall speed and explode into dust

The truth is we dont know why it was done but we can guess its not the story we keep hear repeated

Its just a fuck'd up situation



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Rocky Mtn Squid

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Cui Bono

Cui Bono

Holes in the steel evidence of thermite explosives

It being considered an 'act of war' no formal investigation of 911 will ever happen

In 2011 the govt neatly closed the book on 911 by executing Usama Bin Laden

There may be a clue to who's responsible for 911 in first letters of his name

Anyway, its something that they want buried

Buildings dont drop like they are on rails at free fall speed and explode into dust

The truth is we dont know why it was done but we can guess its not the story we keep hear repeated

Its just a fuck'd up situation



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Figuring out the all the nuances of 911 is analogous to solving the mysteries of the universe. Dream on because you never will. It was structured and designed that way. it's no different than peeling an onion, it has multiple layers that seem to be never ending.

Another caveat to all of this is that some of the 911 truth community are actually paid dis-info agents on the government(s) payroll. This only muddles the situation even more. Again, all by design.

One thing that most people are unaware of is that New York Port Authority owned and were responsible for WTC's. When they were constructed, builders legally used asbestos back then. There were no building codes/laws forbidding its use at that time.

Years later, when newer codes banned the use of asbestos, WTC 1 & 2 were ordered to remove it. Estimates to complete such a huge job were in the multiple billions of dollars, and the Port Authority was legally liable to complete the work.

Along came Lucky Larry Silverstein who negotiated to buy the WTC's, absolving the Port Authority from any undertaking the expensive remediation. Lucky Larry only put in $15 million of his own money to purchase the buildings, the rest was financed.

After the deal deal was inked, Lucky Larry took out two separate individual insurance policies for WTC 1 & 2 & 7, with a special clause that covered him against a terrorist attack.

His insurance company then had to cough up $4.6 billion, and he then went on to sue the airlines and airport security companies for an additional $12.3 billion for losses and damages.

Go figure.

On the morning of 911, the US Government/military was running 48 different drills practicing against a terrorist attack on key strategic infrastructure, and that is the reason why there were not any fighter jets that were able to be scrambled. A coincidence you might say ? IMHO, highly unlikely, to say the least.

These talking points exemplify the never ending layers of skins while peeling apart the 911 onion.

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RMS

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herbgreen

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One thing that most people are unaware of is that New York Port Authority owned and were responsible for WTC's. When they were constructed, builders legally used asbestos back then. There were no building codes/laws forbidding its use at that time.

Years later, when newer codes banned the use of asbestos, WTC 1 & 2 were ordered to remove it. Estimates to complete such a huge job were in the multiple billions of dollars, and the Port Authority was legally liable to complete the work.

Along came Lucky Larry Silverstein who negotiated to buy the WTC's, absolving the Port Authority from any undertaking the expensive remediation. Lucky Larry only put in $15 million of his own money to purchase the buildings, the rest was financed.

After the deal deal was inked, Lucky Larry took out two separate individual insurance policies for WTC 1 & 2 & 7, with a special clause that covered him against a terrorist attack.

His insurance company then had to cough up $4.6 billion, and he then went on to sue the airlines and airport security companies for an additional $12.3 billion for losses and damages.

Go figure.

These talking points exemplify the never ending layers of skins while peeling apart the 911 onion.



RMS

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Yes, and people see that as smoking gun....

Christopher Bollyn on Larry Silverstein and the 9/11 Swindle mainly gets on topic about 10 min into it but really interesting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W13REKIWv-Q


Strange, a mere 2 months in private hands and this happens Sort of unbelievable

And it may have had more to do with whos in control of WTC complex

It may have been easier to get in there at that point once he took control


The " Lone gunman" pilot TV show march 2001

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmmOVSmmdwk

And the Medusa Touch film a Boeing 747-200 to crashs into a London office tower

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Medusa_Touch

Executive producer of the Medusa Touch Arnon Milchan was a full-fledged operative for Israel's top-secret intelligence agency


Arnon Milchan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnon_Milchan

Hes been involved a bunch of strange stuff......
Involved w/Fox tv and Rupert Murdoch who put out "lone gunman" right before 9/11


Many dots to connect and convoluted layers

Chistopher Boylln does good job I can barely follow it


Christopher Bollyn Solving 9 11, The Deception T original

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPN3deAm5gU



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GGNo2

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Yes they will keep getting away with it because what are we, the low going to do about it?
Talk about it on the interweb? And argue amongst ourselves?
Humans ain't what they were a few hundred years ago. We don't stand up to our leaders anymore, we do things like protest peacefully.

They don't mind us protesting peacefully because it does absolutely nothing passed a minor inconvenience.
Then the protesters are mocked by the rest of society the same way people talking of conspiracy theories are online. We're just crack pots to the media propaganda brainwashed masses.
This is what I speak of when I said they keep us divided.
 

Badfishy1

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Bit off topic, but...

https://www.boston25news.com/news/-...signs-spark-confusion-in-local-town/987837653

Can somebody explain to me where the ‘confusion’ is in this statement? Are people too ignorant to understand the meaning of this? Or is ‘confusion’ merely a cop out in this ‘politically correct’ pound metoo era?

Or are the NPCs confused their programming hasn’t addressed it and free thinking truly is dead?
 

St. Phatty

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Figuring out the all the nuances of 911 is analogous to solving the mysteries of the universe. Dream on because you never will. It was structured and designed that way. it's no different than peeling an onion, it has multiple layers that seem to be never ending.

For sure, the study of 9-11 is a full-time job.

But there's no law that says human beings must understand the whole thing.


Except for the human desire to wrap things up in a package with a pretty bow, including knowledge.

9-11 irregularities became obvious within a week of the event, as local news media in California reported -
A. Calif. politician Willie Brown received a phone call warning him not to fly the week of 9-11.
B. The US gov. said they had no preliminary knowledge. (AG Ashcroft switched from commercial planes to government planes in July 2001.)

So unless Willie Brown has better intelligence contacts than the US gov., the US gov. was telling an obvious lie about 9-11 - by 9-18-2001.

The irregularities piled up, e.g. BBC announcing the demolition of WTC7 20 minutes before it happened.


I was 43 at the time of 9-11, so I had 20+ years experience watching American "news".

Just the strangeness of the news coverage, you could feel something was VERY, VERY different.


Basically, the take-over of the US government by Israel-loyalists, it became obvious, within 5 years.

Most of the people working in US industry at this point, age range 21 to 39, were ages 3 to 21 at the time of 9-11.

99% occupied with normal young people things, like getting laid. Zero perspective with which to interpret 9-11.

Similar to how I was 6 at the time of the JFK assassination. I didn't understand it until the early 90's - 30 years later.
 

Badfishy1

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For sure, the study of 9-11 is a full-time job.

But there's no law that says human beings must understand the whole thing.


Except for the human desire to wrap things up in a package with a pretty bow, including knowledge.

9-11 irregularities became obvious within a week of the event, as local news media in California reported -
A. Calif. politician Willie Brown received a phone call warning him not to fly the week of 9-11.
B. The US gov. said they had no preliminary knowledge. (AG Ashcroft switched from commercial planes to government planes in July 2001.)

So unless Willie Brown has better intelligence contacts than the US gov., the US gov. was telling an obvious lie about 9-11 - by 9-18-2001.

The irregularities piled up, e.g. BBC announcing the demolition of WTC7 20 minutes before it happened.


I was 43 at the time of 9-11, so I had 20+ years experience watching American "news".

Just the strangeness of the news coverage, you could feel something was VERY, VERY different.


Basically, the take-over of the US government by Israel-loyalists, it became obvious, within 5 years.

Most of the people working in US industry at this point, age range 21 to 39, were ages 3 to 21 at the time of 9-11.

99% occupied with normal young people things, like getting laid. Zero perspective with which to interpret 9-11.

Similar to how I was 6 at the time of the JFK assassination. I didn't understand it until the early 90's - 30 years later.

The US has anti-BDS laws against only ‘le chosen ones’. That in an of itself should be a huge red flag. Why the fuck is this even a thing? With a capitalistic economy as well as constitutionally protected freedom of speech, a citizen should be able to boycott any company/ country they so desire. (Inb4 hate speech, fuck off)
 

Dropped Cat

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Veteran
I admire the firefighter guys who do the yearly ceremonial
workout on a treadmill in full gear, about 30 minutes, to simulate
the climb to 110 floors.

An emotional task, as many participants shed tears of frustration
with shared anguish in memory of the lives lost, the futility of wasted effort.
 

St. Phatty

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Last time I dropped a piece of concrete, it didn't turn to dust before it hit the ground.

That was one of the most anomalous (defying physics) things about 9-11 -

200,000+ tons of concrete fall hundreds of feet through the air, and when the dust clears, there's very little concrete laying on the ground.

Because most of it was dust in the air, & some was dust in the lungs of first responders & NY citizens.

It takes a lot of energy to pulverize solids into dust.
There are civil engineering handbooks for it.

What happened on 9-11 was so energy efficient - according to the Official Conspiracy Theory - that if it was real, every industry in the world that grinds things up (e.g., the mining industry) would be using the "9-11 technique".

Of course, the same is true about the melting/ heating/ softening of the steel.

9000 gallons of airplane fuel and some office furnishings enough to bring down a 100,000 ton steel structure ?

SIGN ME UP for that technique, so I can use it in my foundry and stop melting metal the pre-9-11 way.

If it was real, every foundry in the world would be using the 9-11 metal heating technique - because it's so energy efficient !
 

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