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September 11, 2001 - Never Forget..

packerfan79

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Nah. Found out we were having a baby the same week as this happened. We have raised her to treat all life with kindness. I would rather focus on that.


Good humans making life better for others.

Is it really to much to ask to mourn fellow Americans, isn't that an act of kindness. Did their lives matter? Did the pain that their families suffer through to this day matter?

3000 families lost someone they love, one day is all that's asked. I am glad you didn't have to feel the pain of not knowing if your family members were going to come home that day.

I am glad you raise your children to be kind, I also raise my children to value life. All life.
 

bigtacofarmer

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Is it really to much to ask to mourn fellow Americans, isn't that an act of kindness. Did their lives matter? Did the pain that their families suffer through to this day matter?

3000 families lost someone they love, one day is all that's asked. I am glad you didn't have to feel the pain of not knowing if your family members were going to come home that day.

I am glad you raise your children to be kind, I also raise my children to value life. All life.


Quit labeling them as Americans and start calling them people. I think you are confusing my point.
 

packerfan79

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Quit labeling them as Americans and start calling them people. I think you are confusing my point.


Sorry, I forgot who I was talking to. They are Americans, America was attacked not people. In the spirit of honoring the Americans who died at the hands of coward terrorists, I will end this conversation before it turns ugly. I wish you and your family the best. I hope you never have to experience the pain of losing someone you love in such a horrifying manner.
 

watts

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Me and some friends went to get some ice and beer and headed out to the country while everyone was in panic mode and buying gas. We looked up into the sky that evening and not one plane was in sight.
 

St. Phatty

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Which was also done by the same group (s) of people and then covered up by the US government.....:chin:

Do you see a recurring pattern here....?

Retired American General Albert Stubblebine on 9-11.

He covers many facets.

* the attack on the Pentagon, leaving the remains of a Missile, not an airplane.

* the Controlled Demolition of WTC1 & WTC2

* the Controlled Demolition of WTC7

* the shut-down of air defenses

* the execution of military exercises - on 9-11 - where airplanes are literally flown into buildings

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jc1ql4TfCZw


Dr. Alan Sabrosky on 9-11 ~

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjJFHZ10C5I


9-11 being what it is, this seems like a thread that belongs in Speaker's Corner.
 

Gry

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It may be old, but the Fletcher Prouty book was priceless in so many respects.
Prior to the shooting of JFK, Prouty had been sent way down South, he was returning
when the news of JFK's death was released. He grabbed a copy of a New Zealand newspaper-
which he kept, and later used it as an illustration as to how news is 'distributed'.
The description he delivered was very frank- and very disturbing.
Then there was the statement by Cheney about the ability to manipulate
the news here via effective control of overseas media .
"Send me the pictures and I will deliver your war"- Hearst speaking of the sinking of the Maine.
 

Rocky Mtn Squid

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It may be old, but the Fletcher Prouty book was priceless in so many respects.
Prior to the shooting of JFK, Prouty had been sent way down South, he was returning
when the news of JFK's death was released. He grabbed a copy of a New Zealand newspaper-
which he kept, and later used it as an illustration as to how news is 'distributed'.
The description he delivered was very frank- and very disturbing.
Then there was the statement by Cheney about the ability to manipulate
the news here via effective control of overseas media .
"Send me the pictures and I will deliver your war"- Hearst speaking of the sinking of the Maine.





JFK , the movie by Oliver Stone. I remember when it first was released. The MSM tried its very best to discredit its accuracy. Problem was, for the most part, it was spot on accurate, even though it did gloss over and ignore some major culprits involvement in his assassination. Chances are, that Stone was told to back off implicating them, or the movie would not be funded and released.

This is the event that Gry is mentioning. Donald Sutherland plays the role of Col. Fletcher Prouty, a legit American patriot and hero.

It's all connected. The public assassination of JFK to the tragic events of 911, but you will never here any explanations of this by the compromised puppets that present to you the news. Their paymasters will never allow it.


RMS

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geneva_sativa

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Retired American General Albert Stubblebine on 9-11.

He covers many facets.

* the attack on the Pentagon, leaving the remains of a Missile, not an airplane.

* the Controlled Demolition of WTC1 & WTC2

* the Controlled Demolition of WTC7

* the shut-down of air defenses

* the execution of military exercises - on 9-11 - where airplanes are literally flown into buildings

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jc1ql4TfCZw


Dr. Alan Sabrosky on 9-11 ~

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjJFHZ10C5I


9-11 being what it is, this seems like a thread that belongs in Speaker's Corner.

Here ya go

https://youtu.be/-2vBef9piDs

Ex- LAPD Narcotics Detective 70 -80 's Mike Ruppert blew the whistle on Drug Running, Nein Elven, connections

Sorry to say he was found dead in 2014,,, funnily enough, youtube threw a video up, immediately in sequence of this,, of Mikes "friend" who found him dead,,, and gave details of Mikes "suicide" on said "friends" property
 

Tudo

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Some of the Many Things Most Americans Never Heard About 9/11

Some of the Many Things Most Americans Never Heard About 9/11

Some of the Many Things Most Americans Never Heard About 9/11
The “Dancing Israelis” who turned out to be Israeli Mossad agents caught filming and celebrating the destruction of the twin towers. Arrested by police and released without investigation, they were not mentioned in the 911 Commission Report. Later on Israeli TV they said they were sent to New York to film the destruction of the twin towers. Allegedly, there was no advance warning of the event, but obviously the Israelis knew.
The alleged fundamentalist orthodox fanatical Muslims who were prepared to die to be martyrs, but who drank, drugged, and lived with strippers and prostitutes in Florida. They were the patsies paraded through flight schools and left a highly visible public record. They all flunked out and could not even fly small planes, but performed miraculous flight feats in their attacks on the WTC towers and Pentagon that military and civilian airline pilots say are beyond their own skills. These Saudi Arabians were being operated by US or Israeli intelligence to create a record to serve as a parallel patsy operation that could be used to cover up the false flag attack.
Numerous video cameras recorded whatever exploded at the Pentagon, but the FBI has refused to release them for 18 years. Clearly, the videos do not support the official story.
About half of the alleged hijackers have been found alive and well and deny that they had ever left their countries.
In 2001 no cell phone calls were possible from aircraft at the altitudes from which calls were reported.
The airliners that allegedly hit the twin towers were flimsly compared to the steel and concrete of the towers. The airliners would have smashed against the structure and fallen to the street below.
Pre-knowledge of 9/11 was widespread. The stocks of the two allegedly hijacked airlines were sold short prior to the event, resulting in large profits when the stocks fell in response to the hijackings. The short-sellers were swept under the carpet and not investigated.
FBI director Robert Mueller was instrumental in covering up for the false official story of 9/11, a story that has zero evidence in its behalf.
If a handful of young men with no intelligence service or government support can defeat the entire national security state of the United States and all of its NATO and Israeli allies and successfully attack with devastating results both New York and the Pentagon itself—the very symbol of American military supremacy—the Soviet Union could have wiped out the US and all of Europe without detection. Don’t you wonder how we survived the Soviet Union when the “Great American Superpower” was so easily defeated by a handful of young Saudi Arabians?
Four hijacked airliners are alleged hijacked, all at airports served by an Israeli security company. All four airliners allegedly crash. Two into the WTC towers, one into a field in Pennsylvania, and one into the Pentagon. Yet no airliner debris exists. The Pentagon’s lawn is not even scratched.
The President of the United States refuses to testify before the 9/11 Commission unless he is accompanied by his handler, Vice President Cheney. Both refuse to testify under oath. The 9/11 Commission is oh-so-respectful to the distinguished president and vice president.
One member of the 9/11 Commission, a US Senator, resigned from the Commission, saying that “the fix is in.” After the Commission report was issued, the Commission chairman, vice chairman, and legal counsel wrote books in which they said that information was withheld from the Commission, that the Commission was lied to and considered refering the false testimony to the Justice (sic) Department for prosecution, and that “the Commission was set up to fail.” And not a peep from the controlled pressitute media whose only function is to deliver the controled explanations that the ruling oligarchs want planted into Americans’ minds.
Tennants of the WTC buildings reported constant noises, floors sealed off, service disruptions and that the excuse was the installation of fiber optic cable. If the buildings faced condemnation as reported because of asbestos fireproofing, who would go to the expense of installing fiber optic cable to upgrade the Internet capability of condemned buildings?
Scientists have found reacted and unreacted nano-thermite and other elements used in controlled demolition. They have proved the existence of these elements. They have samples from the WTC dust left which they have offered to scientists and governments for testing in order to prove or disprove their own findings. No takers.
Instead, we have the appearance of nonsensical claims that the WTC buildings were brought down by a directed energy weapon and by nuclear bombs. These are preposterous allegations, the purpose of which is the deliberate creation of disinformation in order to focus attention away from the false official story and bury it in disagreements about what caused the buildings to fail
I have checked with weapons specialists who are critics of US government foreign policy and who monitor every development in weapon systems in the US and Russia. This is what they tell me: “I can confidently state that no direct energy weapon, capable of demolishing such a structure at the Twin Towers, existed in 2001, nor does it exist today.”
Another reported that there are lab tests of directed energy in Russia but no deployed weapon. He suggested that people who believe in this fantasy story should explain the safe source of high energy that the alleged weapon used, and how it was moved on site and removed without detection. Moreover, a directed energy burst would show on detectors which monitor the electromagnetic spectrum. No such evidence exists. Since no such weapon has ever been tested to bring down skyscrapers, why would the government take the risk of using such a weapon for the first time in a public scenario where who knows what could go wrong and explanations would have to be given? And why reveal to foreign powers the existence of such a weapon? Controlled demolition is an old and familiar technology that works. And it did.
I could go on and on.
As I wrote in a previous column, when Americans fell for the 9/11 deception, they lost their country, and peoples in seven counries lost their lives, limbs, and families.
 

Rocky Mtn Squid

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Cui Bono

Cui Bono

Here ya go



Ex- LAPD Narcotics Detective 70 -80 's Mike Ruppert blew the whistle on Drug Running, Nein Elven, connections

Sorry to say he was found dead in 2014,,, funnily enough, youtube threw a video up, immediately in sequence of this,, of Mikes "friend" who found him dead,,, and gave details of Mikes "suicide" on said "friends" property


Funny you should mention my now deceased old friend Mike Ruppert, No bullshit here, I was friends with Mike, and first met him when he visited and gave a presentation at my local university where I live. He was on tour, promoting his then newly released book, Crossing the Rubicon .


As I recall, there might have been 40 people in attendance. Afterwards, I purchased two copies and had him autograph them for me, and then went out for pizza and beer with him. We talked for over two hours, and got along famously, not something I normally do with an ex-narc.

I kept in touch via email and the odd phone call, but lost touch with him after he fled the US when "they" tried to kill him. He fled to South America, and then lived In Toronto far a while, before returning to the US.

But of course, his death, like others before and after him (Gary Webb) was ruled to be a suicide. Go figure. I was deeply saddened by all this, but not surprised.



I'll say it one more time. All this shit is connected. All of it.

RMS

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herbgreen

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Chistopher Bollyn has the most information Ive ever run across in one place many 911 facts and connections

Really sort of crazy how many Isreali connections and its very well documented in his work......

First Link is his very good basic over view presentation and also links to complete audiobook and website


Christopher Bollyn Solving 9 11, The Deception T original

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPN3deAm5gU


Christopher Bollyn / Solving 9 11 - Solving 9 11 Audiobook / Narrated by Christopher Bollyn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayprKCqeO_8


Also many videos and info on his website

https://www.bollyn.com/videos-by-bollyn/



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St. Phatty

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One of the more interesting news tidbits was about a group of Orthodox Jewish men who met every day to do their religious service, every day before work - at the WTC.

On the Day Of, the rabbi was late, and they had a replacement rabbi.

The replacement rabbi stayed just long enough to make sure that they would be very late for work.

Then he left - and the planes hit.

And it became clear that the deliberately late service had saved their lives.
 

herbgreen

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One of the more interesting news tidbits was about a group of Orthodox Jewish men who met every day to do their religious service, every day before work - at the WTC.

On the Day Of, the rabbi was late, and they had a replacement rabbi.

The replacement rabbi stayed just long enough to make sure that they would be very late for work.

Then he left - and the planes hit.

And it became clear that the deliberately late service had saved their lives.

Yes, many many things like this... a message service had info to stay away

And its in Boylln's presentation and book

people knew it was going to happen...not what but 'something bad'


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