Sensi seeds got a new strain

[Nept]

theres no point to this thread.. if your tired of hype dont post here.
those that claim to be against it are cornered now, becasue i want to make it clear that responding anymore to his thread IS HYPE.

The strain hasnt been grown yet, and this thread is only swaying people.
There is no conclusion here.

How can we decide its no good so soon? And are our decisions based on the past of sensi, it may be an ok measure for some..

As far as the name, its just that, a name. who cares about Eds association to the strain. Dont count on the lineage of strains to get any clearer, theres no point in arguing it anyway...

If its good weed time will tell. In the meantime please dont convince people to not buy the strain.. Even if your not trying to, its happening.

theres no reason to bring up more pointless BS..

i am pretty sure i wont be posting back, but rather watching to see whom responds and how. How people resond to this post is a clear indicator of intentions. People can claim to be against hype all day and contribute to it just as much by dredging up posts and quotes or pointless specualtions.

Im advocating an even head on the matter. Not supporting anyone directly, but im sure we all Can benifit from such a message.

Dont let your opinion become somone elses, thats hype.
threads like these are NO way to determine if one should grow a strain.

 

[Guest]

Right on target... Thanks, Nept....

Science is all that matters. I'll grow it, then I'll know it.

 

[Rosy Cheeks]

As you noticed Nept, the conversation kind of slipped into a side-topic subject concerning Ed's involvement in the marketing of this strain.
People talk about whatever they like, and as long as it doesn't offend anyone or break the site rules, I don't see the point in breaking in and claiming that the thread is useless. If of no interest to you, just move on and find more interesting threads to participate in.
As to the Super Bud, there will be plenty of threads about it once it has been grown. This is just a starter.

 

[Guest]

Because people can get unnecessarily plucky, and a bit bitter, even though they act impassioned...

I think Nept was trying to say that this thread has degenerated into a hype about hype.... have fun, I will post a grow report, and all the theories can be put to rest.

Again, science is all that matters. If marketing is so offensive to some of you, just find your own seeds. How else will you find out without advertising...?

 

[Nept]

Ill do that rosy, its all good. I was just Hoping to offer what i thought was a better gameplan.

Edit: heh i put an "e" in your name

 

[Rosy Cheeks]

Hatin' on Ed... Why...?

You missed the point icysurfer, again. Nobody has said anything about hating (except you). There's no hate, only criticism.
I understand Ed's problem, he's got another heavy lawsuit coing up, he might need to fill up the cashbox to pay his lawyers, simply to stay out of jail, but that too is beside the point.

Ed Rosenthal is a respected member of the Cannabis community. He has become resepected by showing know-how, and writing books on how to build growrooms and cultivate the plant. He has shown that he is serious about what he's doing by going to jail for his beliefs. That too is beside the point.

Ed is a member of the International Cannabinoid Research Society and the Garden Writers Association of America. He's got a cultivation forum's going in Cannabis Culture and he compiles the Big Book of Buds volumes. When people come to him for advice, they want him to share his experience from a neutral standpoint. But when you sign up for leading manufacturers in the biz, you compromise that neutrality.

If someone asks Ed what he thinks is the best nutrient, what's he going to say? What he really think is the best nutrient, or recommend the one brand that pays him as an icon for its image?

If someone asks Ed what he thinks is the best genetics avaible, what's he going to say? What he really thinks is the best strain, or recommend the one strain that he is paid marketing?

You're getting my point now? Ed has the right to make as much money as he wants and sell himself to whoever is prepared to pay for him, but he can't play both sides.

There are actually laws in society against this kind of phenomenon. Antitrust laws and competition laws forbid commercial enterprises to "buy" the opinions of for instance independent experts in order to influence consumers to buy their products. If we didn't have laws against it, we would soon be in the hands of rich corporate industries that could buy the opinion of just about anyone, to say that a crap product is top quality.

So you see, it's not about whether the Super Bud is good or not, or whether Ed or Sensi Seeds is good or not. It's about ethics and integrity.

 

[Baba Kush]

who says that ed's getting paid by sensi for his association with this strain? did jack herer get paid when they used his name? did howard marks when they put out mr. nice? did either of these two gents compromise their integrity by letting sensi use their names? are jack herer's writings on cannabis & hemp no longer of value because he 'sold out' to a seed company? dronkers says on the sensi site that superbud is a tribute to ed's longstanding friendship with them. what indicates to you that money was involved?

as many people as there are involved with cannabis breeding these days, at the core of the amsterdam seed company biz it's always been a small scene. should ed have not put a single strain in his 'books of buds' by any of his friends? that means no paradise seeds, no soma, no sensi... hell, there wouldn't be much of a book if ed couldn't have asked his friends for their input.

i think you're making mountains of mole hills, rosy...

personally, i think ed, while respected in many regards, has never really gotten any props for his involvement with cannabis breeding, going all the way back to the seed bank days (and long before that, actually). and it's about time that he did.

 

[Elevator Man]

In ten years, when everyone's clamouring to put 'Elevator Man' on their seed packets, I'll give my considered opinion on the rights and wrongs of 'endorsements'...

But - my real business will require the services of someone 'famous' - in the field I'm in, anyway - before too long, in order to better publicise the product. I have to weigh up the same issue - will the person endorsing my product help the sales in the long run? And will it spoil the company 'image' if said famous person is considered uncool by many of their peers?

Similarly, will the famous person be benefitting by association? If they're not, they won't be interested, but it may not be a cash-related exercise. Freebies, services, and other less tangible benefits can all be far more useful (and easier to hide) than money. Ed's a smart guy, and given his profile in the US, will have weighed this up long and hard - even in the relatively small world of the seed business, the same rules still apply - if it's not good for business, don't do it. If it is, then grab it.

Business and fun (art, creativity, etc.) needn't be mutually exclusive, but IMHO, there are no morals in business - it's not moral or immoral, it's amoral....

 

[Rosy Cheeks]

who says that ed's getting paid by sensi for his association with this strain?
...what indicates to you that money was involved?

Would you appear in an ad for a company, wearing the company logo on your chest and let your name be posted all over to carry the product... without getting anything in return? That's my indication. I would even say, that if Ed didn't get paid for this, Sensi Seeds is exploiting him. It should be clear to most that this is a business transaction of some sorts.

did jack herer get paid when they used his name? did howard marks when they put out mr. nice? did either of these two gents compromise their integrity by letting sensi use their names? are jack herer's writings on cannabis & hemp no longer of value because he 'sold out' to a seed company?

Let's put it this way; if Jack Herer was one of the most respected and knowledgeable persons on hemp products and production, and several different Hemp manufacturers competed for market shares, and JH decided to become the poster boy for one them, then we would have a situation that resembled this whole Super Bud thing, and yes then he would be IMO compromising his role as an independent source of information.

i think you're making mountains of mole hills, rosy...

if any way of making money is a good way, then I suppose that this one is too.

I don't think it's a problem ezra. I made fun of it, that's all.

It doesn't mean that I'm opposed to breeders promoting their strains, for example with pics of naked girls.

I tried to belittle the subject, but each time peeps came back for more or chose to misunderstand me, wich kept prolonging the thread.

 

[Elevator Man]

I'm still hoping to find out more on the strain, not Ed's bank balance...

It should be clear to most that this is a business transaction of some sorts.

Yes - but what's wrong with that? You seem to be saying that business is wrong. I don't understand - I apologize if I am misunderstanding this.

How does this (free) site that we all use every day exist?

 

[motaco]

so anyone grow this strain yet?

 

[jim dankness]

my veg room is full of Ed Superbud phenos awaiting sexing & flowering. so needless to say, one of us is working on it!

 

[zombo]

Heres a couple pics of my 3 Eds Super Bud.
Only started 5 seeds,killed 2 with kindness.
So far I know one is male and one is female.,the other hasn't shown yet.
Not much to look at yet.,but here they are:

 

[Guest]

I've got a preview copy of The Big Book of Buds V 3 and Ed's superbud looks amazing. I'd love to grow it. The book is pretty amazing too, on sale June 1.

 

[RoastedO]

Say hello to my friend Ed.... 29 days 12/12 in this one here.........

All the best,
RO

 

[ethereal]

VERY nice. hope ya kept a mama!

 

[- ezra -]

yea, looks very nice, tell us more roasted.

- Ez

 

[bravo]

u must have some beautiful conditions roastedo. the formation and ice looks good for that age. tell us how was she at 14-16 days??? i would like to see this cut come to an end. question is will we? from what i read an under stand it is a sativa. enjoy the bountiful harvest, bravo

 

[Guest]

roasted O is my hero...! Thanks for posting...! My Ed seeds are still in the fridge.....

You get 'em...! looks wonderful, and grown well....!^!^!^!^!^!

 

[RoastedO]

Ok long delay.. I don't like to assume anything, so until I was more concrete in my opinion I decided to reserve it somewhat. Onward and upward..

1st: Big respect to ethereal, -ezra-, bravo and icysurfer! Get those poppin if you have em still, time is not going to help these germinate in any way ..

Im gonna do the quick method..
Taste: 7.5
Aroma:8.0
Appeal:7.0
Stone:6.0
High:9.0
Duration:9.0








This one is hard to describe because of all the angles I try to take into consideration.
Germination was difficult. Extra time, water and heat were needed to make these pop... They all popped in the end but seemed to have hard outer shells.
Veg showed a few different phenos ranging from semi-thin hybrid sativa leaves on NL structured plants to cabbage leafed squat indi-dom looking hybrids. Nothing seemed to exhibit any sativa growth in veg.
After the switch I expected a profound stretch to which there was almost none. I got almost all males .. Seems to be the case with other people I know running them also.
She set up like a typical NL with the spear shaped nuggets and they all formed together to make a very nice cola. The smell was pineapple, very very similar to Cindy99 pineapple pheno I have run in the past. There was also some underlying smells like the Genius so I drew some lines there. Taste is not like either really tho. Not a headdy taste like the Genius to my dismay and somewhat lighter than I expected, more like the Cindy, very good but I had lofty expectations..
No question to the Sativa feel to the buzz. Its alittle offputting at first because it looks so indica dominant you expect a hot face on exhale. There is some but very little body, its almost all in the head and I noticed I was higher 15 minutes after I first smoked, then initially. A fuzzy dreamy head. No clear head, which I personally don't like. I like to know Im high, but I could still function if needed. Not an instant vegetable maker

All in all, ERSB was interesting and worthwhile. Its growth pattern, speed, finish and high make it quite special. The seeds are very expensive but seem to come through in the end so Im content.

Good luck to those running em too! I look forward to seeing others results..

All the best,
RO