Seeds of Africa seedbank???

[Genghis Kush]

I think I read somewhere that Swazi Gold is a mix of Malawi Gold And Swazi, that is grown in Swaziland.
Not sure where I read that, though.

no way to know where these things really come from, is there?

I wouldn't be surprised if they all came from the Transkei and Swaziland.

Thanks for the info, look forward to hearing how they go.

 

[Tangwena]

Hi Spacey
I have found 2 main phenos in most genuine Malawi seeds one sweet smelling and the other peppery. It is normal to find them in the wild seeds, personally I find them both good although the highs are not the same. I have had powerful experiences with both types of high so I always let them finish just in case I miss a good one.
Also broad and thin leaved types all genuine Malawi because I got the seeds from Malawi myself.
Looking forward to seeing your pics mate sounds like you are doing well.
Tangwena

 

[rexamus616]

seedlings

seedlings

heres some updates of my seedlings of Malawi Gold from SOA

A bit of variation... but the BUDS are what we are after, (not leaf shape!)

The smell of the stems is pretty strange. Kinda like old/stale fuel or diesel or something... But none seem to have the same smell...

Never smelt anything similar in terms of strains i've grown.

 

[rexamus616]

outside

outside

they're basically all at 4 nodes now, so I put them outside to sex.

They really stretched once they got outside but it has been quite overcast...

 

[Genghis Kush]

looks good lexamus616!

I only have one MG going and it looks like your most narrow leaf plant, actually maybe even narrower.

mine has been outside for two months and isn't showing any sex all. the DP Durban Poison next to it has been flowering for 3 weeks.

thanks for the pics,

 

[Genghis Kush]

I haven't run Mozambique od yet. indoors was good but indoor run not as good as some other strains for the up energetic perhaps psychoactive high. the no mercy sativa phenos of santa maria were outstanding in this regard re first indoor test appraisal. taste of sm was very nice and she looked to be turning gold. got mom outdoors and a few sm seedlings ( sat leaning) going now. so santa maria it is for now.

I've got afropips pencil stick Durban poison and his Malawi gold (billyblog says it's like snorting coke ) on the way via nguni seeds.

Wish I had grabbed those Nguni seeds back when you did, they are up to 40$ a 5 pack now!

 

[idiit]

^ I haven't run those nguni beans yet. the guy taking over for afropips is a little strange imo. not sure about him, not sure about nguni authenticity.

my keeper breeders out of a lot of trial runs re landraces right now are:

soa Malawi gold. across the board superstar imo; at least my keeper mandingo clone female and the test runs using the soa mg male in hybrids.

santa maria sativa phenos from no mercy seed stock: intense up sativa effects, strong potency. haven't tested progeny from male yet. making soa mg/sativa santa maria, eskobar purple giggle oaxacan/sativa santa maria, purple rene madre/sativa santa maria, purple aww/sativa santa maria and a few more. will run santa maria hybids pronto as I am very enthusiastic about santa maria as a breeder.

purple haze leaning pheno from dr. gt's golden haze (phz/Acapulco gold). smokes just like purple haze reports, super frosty ( the frostiest plant I got), translates frosty into progeny. great for commercial bag appeal.

Nepalese indica satori bat pheno: super chunky, very potent (couch lock pheno), bud rot resistant. commercial indica dom bud structure for commercial bag appeal.

ace killer mum Malawi pheno: haven't isolated the killer mum pheno yet myself. ace has released a killer mum fem in his breeder's pack offerings. need these or do it myself. my 2011 golden tiger mt dom with strong Malawi influence was incredible smoke after 6 mth. cure; not grail until it got 6 mth cure. rude taste. incredible potency, incredible high effects after cure. connoisseur smoko. hybrid vigor out of this world. some hybrids had weak branch/meristem nodes enabling branch stripping due to enormous long heavy bud laden branches; big tits on a small back syndrome .

Malawi is worth checking out for outdoor grows from my limited experience and the grow reports of other growers.

 

[Genghis Kush]

thanks for the info Idiit.

I hope Nguni is the real deal.

have you ever tried seedsmans African Buzz?

Malawi Gold from African Seeds, I think.

they are giving them away at seedsman right now.

 

[CannaZen]

I'm glad you are bringing up the other african sourced beans into this discussion,

excellent stuff you guys are bringing to the table here, thank you for all the information and pictures, rexamus616 i am excited to see what your progress with that!

 

[idiit]

have you ever tried seedsmans African Buzz?

^ no, first I've heard of it.looks interesting. the Malawi from seedsman in reg beans is listed as ace seeds Malawi. the African buzz is seedman's old Malawi crossed with a Malawi of unknown origin from what I gleaned.

 

[Thule]

^ no, first I've heard of it.looks interesting. the Malawi from seedsman in reg beans is listed as ace seeds Malawi. the African buzz is seedman's old Malawi crossed with a Malawi of unknown origin from what I gleaned.

Seedsman's Malawi was said to be the same as African seeds Malawi, then they named it African buzz after making a new reproduction using a selected clone from the same line.

 

[Genghis Kush]

I found this review of African Buzz at seed finder
"Deedeetee says

at the 07.02.2015, 15:09:

This is a special pheno of Malawi Gold... a wonderful sativa out of Africa. This is very powerful weed and must be respected... careful because very little does the job... but there is a delay of about 5 minutes. Do not be tempted to take another hit before giving this stuff time to kick in... otherwise, you may wind up in bed with the room spinning. If well-dosed, this stuff is truly fantastic... very psychedelic and blissful. It takes you to another dimension (you're functional but slightly out of sync with the real world) where music sounds more beautiful (as though you were in communion with it)… where eating food you already like becomes one of the most pleasurable experiences ever (but it doesn't make you hungry like many indicas do)… all this while enhancing your libido. It seems to enhance your imagination and all of your senses while cranking up the pleasure these senses provide to you. I love it. Think of the hottest, most sensual sex you've ever had... now imagine doing that while listening to your favourite music... this is the effect of this cut of Malawi Gold. There is some body effect... like a hum or vibration around your crotch area but there's no sleepiness or tiredness (no hangover effect either). This is truly beautiful weed… but careful, too much can make you trip out. Most psychedelic weed I've ever smoked."

 

[Tangwena]

sounds like someone found a good one, nice effects
tangwena

 

[SpaceJunkOG]

i've been trying to upload pictures to no avail, most likely due to my new member status. so i resized them smaller and started an album (as the drag and drop was not working for me) so this is a test post to see if it works. if this goes through i'll post some more.

These were SoA Swazi Gold - first one is the "pepper" pheno with longer flowering time and airy foxtail buds. second one is the "fruity" pheno with denser buds, shorter flowering and obviously it's been trimmed here.

I have some other pictures of this "Red Swazi" as i've been calling it, it was the most red-headed strain i've ever seen, and i can't help but wonder (or dream i guess) that it's the famed Swazi Rooibaard (Redbeard) that there are so many romanticized tales of. I'll post some pictures of it growing and curing, maybe somebody who knows can chime in. Anyway, if these work I will post more from the whole grow ....

 

[SpaceJunkOG]

wow that worked well eh? holy crap. can a mod delete all that code?

this time i'll try posting pictures without 10 pages of code after it....

....uhhhhhhh?

 

[SpaceJunkOG]

here are some more pictures of the 2 SoA Swazi's at various stages. My image space is extremely limited right now because i have less than 50 posts so excuse the small images and lack of abundance of them.

will post some pictures of this SoA Mozambica soon as well, it's an interesting one.

SoA Swazi Gold #1 & #2:

 

[Thcvhunter]

I like the foxtailing in the 2nd pic but other than that it looks like they have Skunk somewhere in there

Thank you for sharing. I hope the Mozambique are more pure

 

[SpaceJunkOG]

I like the foxtailing in the 2nd pic but other than that it looks like they have Skunk somewhere in there

Thank you for sharing. I hope the Mozambique are more pure

I hear what you're saying especially the denser one, while it was growing i suspected it may have some indica in it or skunk etc, but after researching these plants some more it seems to be the general look of the fruity, denser, less stretchy pheno of Swazi. They also tend to have broader leaves than other African strains that I've seen - but the broadness of a leaf does not dictate the sativa-ness of a plant, it is definitely an NLD just with a broader form. The smoke is the most cerebral, energizing thing I've ever experienced - absolutely *nothing* in the body whatsoever, I've honestly never experienced something so purely cerebral.

The Mozambicas (all phenotypes, both sexes) were EXTREMELY narrowleaf'ed, like twice as narrow as the Swazi's. So far they are slower to flower and much more fibrous, low-yielding, and very few flowers so am expecting a low yield. Granted my pheno-hunting expedition was minimal, but this was the best of the lot. I'll put her up here eventually.

plus i forgot to mention above, i harvested both of these at 13 weeks, but they wanted to go at least another 2 weeks. it was like 70% cloudy, 30% clear. to me that was a kinda reassurance that they were the real thing and not a hybridized version. they tripled in height at flowering too!

(i would edit these all together but i can't edit my posts apparently)......

ALSO: I grew a DP Power Plant next to these things for fun just to see what DP's "pure south african sativa" looked like next to a real south african sativa.

Power Plant - flowered in 8 weeks, was about 1/4 the size / stretch of the Swazi's, and looked like a completely different strain. So, as for the "never hybridized only inbred" claim from DP, . . . . it's pretty funny when you grow a real South African landrace next to Power Plant and it is 4 times as big and takes almost twice as long to flower.

But i think everybody knows the Dutch stuff is hybrids anyway.

This time I'm growing Sensi's Durban next to the Mozambica. Kinda an ongoing experiment of seeing just how hybridized all these commercial South African strains are.

 

[waveguide]

The Mozambicas (all phenotypes, both sexes) were EXTREMELY narrowleaf'ed, like twice as narrow as the Swazi's. So far they are slower to flower and much more fibrous, low-yielding, and very few flowers so am expecting a low yield. Granted my pheno-hunting expedition was minimal, but this was the best of the lot. I'll put her up here eventually.

i got those, figuring "everyone else will get the swazi"

sigh.. silly bugger, i ordered from a single seed site, "didn't want to spend too much.." i'm going to be wishing i'd spent those extra few pennies for a while.. hoping the moz is another winner too!

 

[Genghis Kush]

i'd love to have some of those red stemmed Mozambique seeds for doing a cross with a red stemmed f13.