bastards, they really don't play fair! it seems your local leo didnt have enough other easy and worthwhile victims. so did you lose your house too in the end for those 30 plants?
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Yes, They took the house account I was convicted of manufacture of a schedule 1 substance and second felony was for maintaining a drug establishment.
I had 20 seedlings a inch tall and maybe 10-12 moms.
They counted all the intercepted seeds as plants... {which they can't}
but they got a indictment from a grand jury saying I had 200 plants....=because they counted seeds.
That was later deemed inadmisible but who cares 1 plant in their eyes is manufacture so it doesn't matter.
What I had when dried would not fill a sandwich bag.
I was in a town of population 500 people so yeah it was a bust of a lifetime for them.
The most exitement they get is a call for a barking dog.
tehmaster
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Have you heard about the former radio host who, when his letters came through the post office, the gov't had sent a letter to the post office, to track and record all the envelopes, (copy all the mail he gets)
Unfortunately for the machine, they accidentally sent him the "please record all this guys letters and copy them , thanks" letter.
It may be time to rearrange your pea under your cup, talk to people within your network to find the best way to obtain a po box that doesn't have anyone on the record. Anyone real , at least. Now they might wait for you at the PO (worst case scenario) but you can always just have other people pick up the things from your po box. Many companies have a mailbox, like kroger , with rentable boxes.
It's not too much to be worried about with the post man, if they were after you they would know it was YOU who came to the door, with no question.. He was probably just a loveable idiot. He probably had to walk 2 or 3 packages to your doorstep, and rememembers the extra effort of leaving his precious truck.
Do be watchful of the post. as i said earlier they have some of them doing their bidding.
thank you. that was retarded
Sketchedout
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Holy shit angus, thats a scary story... Thanks for sharing your first hand account on the subject though.
Alot of people dismiss the idea of getting busted for seeds, but where theres seeds there are grows. It makes sense for them to try and get a warrant after an interception. I am really glad I refused that fucking package...
Alot of people dismiss the idea of getting busted for seeds, but where theres seeds there are grows. It makes sense for them to try and get a warrant after an interception. I am really glad I refused that fucking package...
fyi. a plant is not a plant untill it has roots. i.e. unrooted clones legally should not be included in the plant count
Yes, you were VERY smart to refuse that signature! good job.
In my opinion your situation is a bit too odd. somethings up. The statements made by the mailman make me think that others at his work are talking. about the overseas orders.
I don't like talking about my deal because it was horrific. I lost my family, a hundred thou a year job. my house and business.
Second day in the joint I saw a dude shanked in the neck with a welding rod for supposedly cutting in the chow line.
I only did 18 months but it was hell. and all because I believed the B.S from sites like this were numerous people say no one has ever been busted for ordering seeds.
In the end it ultimately comes down to me not educating myself on the consequences and having beans shipped to my p.o box.
please stay safe brother.
Sketchedout
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Shit tha is horrible man... Sorry to hear that.
Yeah something was certainly up... Regular guy is back doing deliveries now. Do you think im safe if I keep my head down, or do you think I should cut and run?
You said they had nothing until the interception, so if I turned it down, even if they were persuing me they wouldnt really have anything right?
Yeah something was certainly up... Regular guy is back doing deliveries now. Do you think im safe if I keep my head down, or do you think I should cut and run?
You said they had nothing until the interception, so if I turned it down, even if they were persuing me they wouldnt really have anything right?
Evidently reading comprehension is not one of your strong points.
They counted seeds as plants and presented it to the grand jury for a indictment.
months later it was deemed inadmissable but I was already standing in front of a federal judge and they did find plants in my house.
you can't put that genie back in the bottle.
like I said I fought this for 18 months and spent 20 grand so your jailhouse lawyering is weak
The fact that regular guy is back and the other dude that was asking about overseas stuff and looking around and asking for verification of your name speaks VOLUMES. He's a nark.
I spent 18 months with high level trafficers hearing their bust stories multiple times. you cannot dismiss this it's too out of the ordinary.
I can't tell you what to do. I'm just some random dude on the interwebs.
It is to your advantage that you turned the package down but that is just a temporay roadblock for them they have many other avenues to get a warrant. Never ever underestimate just how greasy the enemy is to get a bust.
This is some bad advice. ^
First off, I too found myself in a similar situation sitting in an interrogation room with a NARCO detective telling me how my life was over and I was going away to prison for 20 years.
I was told about a deal similar to what you described. They gave me the whole story about "help us to help you"... blah blah blah.
For someone to agree to help them (with intentions to or not) means that someone would need to sign a document stating that they(the police) cannot be held liable for any harm to you caused by any of the informant activity.
I read the entire liability document they give to people busted they want to turn into confidential informant (CI's). The police will not attempt to use you as an informant without you signing that first. The lawyer standing next to me informed me that the document doubles up as an confession of guilt. Basically by signing the document and saying you will help them, means you are admitting to the crimes they pulled you in for.
I didn't sign that paper and I let my lawyer speak for me. Unfortunately for me they didn't go away and I ended up in a very very difficult period of my life.
Something about your description doesn't sound truthful. You couldn't "pretend" to be a CI and then walk away without anything.
Marco= voice of reason here. Never under any circumstances play ball with these greasy whores.
not to mention it is ethically abhorrent. if worst case scenario does happen and you do do a stint. you must show you're papers to other inmates. or they will just pay offa guard and get youre paperwork if you cooperate it's in there and you're toast
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First off....I didnt get arrested. Second of all, I didnt have to sign shit. I just verbally told him I would ask around. It had to be from the town the detective was in. He didnt have shit on me and I knew it, and he knew it.
I dont really care what you believe. I didnt get busted or raided. I got pulled over and searched. This was years and years ago guys.
MANY Years! Things may be dif in another state you guys are in. Its legal to have up to an ounce in my state before its a felony. I had exactly an ounce. No more. No less.
SORRY IF YOU ALL THINK IM A LIER. Stay safe everyone....Peace out.
I dont really care what you believe. I didnt get busted or raided. I got pulled over and searched. This was years and years ago guys.
MANY Years! Things may be dif in another state you guys are in. Its legal to have up to an ounce in my state before its a felony. I had exactly an ounce. No more. No less.
SORRY IF YOU ALL THINK IM A LIER. Stay safe everyone....Peace out.
i wouldnt sign for any package containing contraband... so i think you played it as well as u could have (op).
no, i understood what u said, thats why i said, "should not be included". But we all know cops do what they want. but that doesnt mean its legal, and thats why you ultimately beat the seeds being counted as plants.
that being said i do wish i would have wrote, "For the people's information", not "fyi", because i didnt really intend my message to be directed at you. i apoligize if i came across as a know-it-all, i was just trying to offer a piece of info i thought might be useful and relevant to the thread.
so who sent you those seeds? did you have them sent by any stealth method?
i know the bay and bou offer stealth packaging which makes it hard to even find the seed in the pack, lol.
i have to say, that in all these years i have been a member at this site, yours is the first tale of this exact nature i've come across. i mean a average seed order leading to a search. still, we all know using the grow addy for seed orders is not smart, specially in the more restrictive areas. the secret is to look up your local leo policy and precedents, so you know where you stand.
i know the bay and bou offer stealth packaging which makes it hard to even find the seed in the pack, lol.
i have to say, that in all these years i have been a member at this site, yours is the first tale of this exact nature i've come across. i mean a average seed order leading to a search. still, we all know using the grow addy for seed orders is not smart, specially in the more restrictive areas. the secret is to look up your local leo policy and precedents, so you know where you stand.
Actually Gaius, Angus has told this same tale three times already on icmag, and apparently that is all he posts about. Wonder why?
Most ppl are wising up to the Police State.
Better to live in a place where you're not considered a criminal because you use marijuana or fight to change the laws where you live.
Buy from reputable seed banks that have been in biz for many years and know the ropes, not new ones.
And remember, shit happens.
Most ppl are wising up to the Police State.
Better to live in a place where you're not considered a criminal because you use marijuana or fight to change the laws where you live.
Buy from reputable seed banks that have been in biz for many years and know the ropes, not new ones.
And remember, shit happens.
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StoopheadFred
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Couldn't have handled it worse IMO. You came off as a sketched out weirdo to the mail man.
I work at a retail shipping facility where we have mailboxes and routinely receive packages on behalf of customers. When the USPS driver brings us pieces of registered mail / packages for our mailbox holders, we have to verify the name and box number (in your case name and address) before we sign for the package. If the information doesn't match up, we don't accept the package.
It's part of their accountability system... it's supposed to ensure that they aren't just handing registered packages out to just anyone and that they aren't responsible if a package goes missing. When you refused to verify your name, he wanted to make sure he was at the right address.
I work at a retail shipping facility where we have mailboxes and routinely receive packages on behalf of customers. When the USPS driver brings us pieces of registered mail / packages for our mailbox holders, we have to verify the name and box number (in your case name and address) before we sign for the package. If the information doesn't match up, we don't accept the package.
It's part of their accountability system... it's supposed to ensure that they aren't just handing registered packages out to just anyone and that they aren't responsible if a package goes missing. When you refused to verify your name, he wanted to make sure he was at the right address.
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