Scrub's PLL Coco Cupboard and Friends

[Ghostwolf]

Definitely.

 

[xmobotx]

~Edit: I forgot to add -> I also recently tried smooshing the jiffy and this is a must!!! After you soak it, kind of rotate and squeeze it to unclump the medium. The jiffy will be nearly twice the size now and much better for roots to penetrate.~

do you cut the mesh off when you transplant?

 

[ScrubNinja]

Cheers dudes, not too long to go now

Xm, I actually started removing that with this round, yes. It didn't seem to me like the roots busted out as freely as they should have on earlier runs when I left it on, but now that I realise, it was probably the clumpiness causing that (unsmooshed). The roots can break through the fabric without issue as we see in pics, so I don't think it would hurt them as long as smooshing had been carried out. It's pretty easy to remove though, so I'll probably remove it anyway in future.

 

[Hydro-Soil]

The roots can break through the fabric without issue as we see in pics, so I don't think it would hurt them as long as smooshing had been carried out.

Careful... some pucks have a different material that roots do NOT grow through well... kinda like the dryer sheet material instead of netting.

Stay Safe!

 

[ScrubNinja]

That kind of sounds like what I'm using! Maybe it's a good thing I removed them then. They were sold loose so I don't know the brand but they're definitely different to jiffy7's and stronger fabric.

Anyway I got my shelf in finally. Check it out



I still have to cut some wood for the shelf itself. I added the 4000k too:

Here's that pic of the tent at the moment.

 

[mad librettist]

Yes dude. What is a widger? A thing for digging up seedlings?

sorry for the delay scrub. death in the family. touched my first dead person.

yeah, a widger is a cross between a knife and a spoon. You can use it to pull seedlings out way early, and just the right amount of soil comes with. So all you need is a tray of dirt or straight worm castings. Check the horticulture supply in your area or order one. It's a "british" tool, hard to find in the US, but I got me one.

 

[ScrubNinja]

Yikes That's no good bro.

About the widger, I've always liked the idea to keep plants separate in their own pod, be it a pot or a jiffy. Then there's little/no transplant shock/delay.

 

[mad librettist]

there is no delay when you use the widger, believe it or not. I think the way it cradles the sprout and doesn't disturb anything helps. Try a spoon or a knife, and it's a disaster.I do it with the sprout, not a rooted seedling, although I do use it to transfer rooted cuts. Right now though I got room, so i put my seeds in small pots, covered in worm castings, and and stuck on the heat mat with a dome. I started doing it for veggie starts where space is a problem, and with the widger I can fit a bunch of stuff in a tray. it worked so well in general that I can't stop.

The problem with the pellets for me is that they absorb water and dry out different from the medium.

 

[ScrubNinja]

Ah, see I am a coco guy and the pellets may as well be pure coco (in fact some are but those seemed to get bad reviews). So it's a very comfortable medium for me. Strangely there is no peat listed in the ingredients of the main jiffy7 peat pellets for sale here! It's sawdust if I remember right. To be honest it took me like the first 50 pages of the last thread trying to get my groove on with seeds so my method is the pinnacle of all methods

For me at least

 

[mad librettist]

oh yeah, good point...

still, i get to say "widger".

 

[ukganjafarmer]

nice training & plants mate

 

[ScrubNinja]

Thanks UK Things are about to get into 2nd gear too.

Well, it would appear that widgers has died down as a topic of discussion So I'm going to attempt to graft multiple strains onto one mum. The TWxPD stems are pretty weedy but I'll keep growing them and they should improve in coco to match the PK's size.

How come no one does this? It seems straightforward enough?

 

[mad librettist]

widger!

 

[Anti]

Yo, Scrub!

Don't wanna hijack your thread, but if you have a moment, could you maybe take a look at this: http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=164605 I found some PLLs and I'm wondering if I can make them work. Your expertise is appreciated.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled programming.

 

[ScrubNinja]

Done

Done

Yup, back to widgers now

The plants are looking....yup, you guessed it, fantastic. I gave the PK water today.

 

[Hydrosun]

I've seen the graft a bunch of stains to a single plant tried in a thread, but really what is the point?

I would think it neater to graft a low yielding strain onto an AB root mass and see if that increases yield, but why not just have a single mom for each strain? Not that I don't want to see the Frankenmom you come up with

And oh yeah what do you think about Widgers?

Peace,

 

[ScrubNinja]

Well this is the micro forum cut me some slack. Space and energy saving basically. There is also a small thing about 'erb being illegal, lol. Low plant numbers is always good if you can swing it. More room for widgers, innit!

Edit: Like now I am thinking I have 5 plants that are doing nothing. They're just growing leaf until I need cuts in another 3 months. Why have 5 when I can have 1?

 

[mad librettist]

I'm with you scrub. You can't have too many widgers. Or too few plants.

 

[ScrubNinja]

widgerpedia

widgerpedia

PK is at 41 days above ground and will go into the scrog screen and smart pot in the next few days I'd say. (You can see the size in relation to the cupboard!)

The Leda Uno is at day 27.

One of the TWxPDs dried right out and wilted and some of it isn't coming back

Here's the best TW clones at 12 or 13 days:

There are two more that should make it through. And here are the PK cuts at day 10 or 11:

I'm expecting to get 3 or 4 of them make it.

I fed the clones a couple of days ago with very light hydro nutes and I noticed they greened up nicely. Is that bad? Does it mean they have roots? My mentor said to never nute them until they started actively growing/shooting. Whatchoo guys think?

 

[VerdantGreen]

looks good scrub, i use those pucks for cuts too - the coco ones. nitrogen is supposed to slow down rooting (more to do with if the plant was fed before cutting maybe) mine tend to go yellow as the roots start forming.

V.