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Seaf0ur

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so.. I'm just thinkin... but, there is sour bubble, floscout, and agent orange pollen available in the nearby area.... perhaps agent orange or sour bubble might lend some good citrus flavor...
 

Seaf0ur

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gg4 x AO = yum

that is the primary reason I ran the AO... glue tests high as hell in limonene... my last cross with floscout was all lemon... but an unexpected hospital stay and surgery left me with some dead clones that cut that project back to square 1...
I'm hoping for the good orange flavor with a boost to the potency of the weaker AO...
 

Avinash.miles

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so.. I'm just thinkin... but, there is sour bubble, floscout, and agent orange pollen available in the nearby area.... perhaps agent orange or sour bubble might lend some good citrus flavor...

def.... i'd like to citrus it up, and AO is a SOLID strain, perhaps nearly as solid as SB. still, i'm itching to flower out some females of the SB also, had AO females in the warehouse days, and grew a few out from seed more recently.
the des*tar females were very unique flavorful buds, unlike anything i've had before to compare the smell combinations, aside from being

as for AO being kinda "weak" duno about that, i think it's just more sativa style buzz, our pal down here grows out AO, pretty potent, just not couchlocky or sedative at all.

Avinash.....glad to see someone else growing some of Dynasty's gear. I am actually smoking on some Ms Universe right now as I type :joint:.

COOL! what is the ms universe like? smoke & buzz?.... thats an offspring of the D*Sbx, right?
all of dynasty gear i've grown out has been quality, perhaps all of them are on the lower yielding side of things for me, the Drizella wanted 10+ weeks, blue heron vegged slow (and f2s hermied), d*sbx was also lower.
 

unregistered190

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Yep Ms Universe is Dess*Tar x Space Queen F3. I could have done a lot better on that grow so looking forward to popping some more of these beans in the future (maybe even look for a male). Also ran Pineapple Diesel which is the most diesel smelling strain in the jar I have ever smelled. Here is Ms U @ day 78 when I chopped

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Seaf0ur

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def.... i'd like to citrus it up, and AO is a SOLID strain, perhaps nearly as solid as SB. still, i'm itching to flower out some females of the SB also, had AO females in the warehouse days, and grew a few out from seed more recently.
the des*tar females were very unique flavorful buds, unlike anything i've had before to compare the smell combinations, aside from being

as for AO being kinda "weak" duno about that, i think it's just more sativa style buzz, our pal down here grows out AO, pretty potent, just not couchlocky or sedative at all.



COOL! what is the ms universe like? smoke & buzz?.... thats an offspring of the D*Sbx, right?
all of dynasty gear i've grown out has been quality, perhaps all of them are on the lower yielding side of things for me, the Drizella wanted 10+ weeks, blue heron vegged slow (and f2s hermied), d*sbx was also lower.

you know me... I'm lookin for that sedative effect... my mind races enough normally... I lose focus without a good heavy smoke... I love some sativa flavors, but I like to follow em up with something heavy... mixing strains seems to give me a better high than either strain would alone... probably a terpene combo thing...

Yep Ms Universe is Dess*Tar x Space Queen F3. I could have done a lot better on that grow so looking forward to popping some more of these beans in the future (maybe even look for a male). Also ran Pineapple Diesel which is the most diesel smelling strain in the jar I have ever smelled. Here is Ms U @ day 78 when I chopped

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She looks very nice... what kind of flavor did you get from her?
 

HatchBrew

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that is the primary reason I ran the AO... glue tests high as hell in limonene... my last cross with floscout was all lemon... but an unexpected hospital stay and surgery left me with some dead clones that cut that project back to square 1...
I'm hoping for the good orange flavor with a boost to the potency of the weaker AO...

I have my super lemony ashratu going in veg and a lite seed harvest off first round.could hit them with a little citrus love when they get rooted and along a little.
 

heady blunts

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with that limonene suggestion sea you just gave me a new must-do project.

gg4 x lemon haze.

I've got a bunch of sssdh f2's to hunt through and a I grabbed a pack of relentless white lemons (SLH x the white (r)) last night.

first thing I said when I tried glue is I wish it had longer legs.

she'd look good all foxtailed out too!
 

Avinash.miles

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i was under the impression that icovo started a new account, seems like in the last 12-18 months alot of LONG time icmag users have ditched their old handles and started new ones.... duno why but i just assumed that icovo is one of those....
 

Seaf0ur

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Not sure bro... he dont seem active to me... I'd think hed have popped up in certain threads if he did
I did my first hits today...

the box got hit with blue ox pollen for the first time... planning a second hit in about a week.

In addition, I also hit

NorCal Catpiss x Chem D Bx3
Gorilla Glue 4 x Chem D Bx3

and 1 small branch of

NorCal Catpiss x Moontang

I have a second NorCal and another GG4 still a bit young to hit.

I intend to do

Gorilla Glue 4 x Agent Orange

As for the small NorCal Catpiss... I'm still waiting to see if that other one reverses for S1's... if not, then I'll probably just make sure I get many more of the NorCal Catpiss x Chem D Bx3... I think those will be pretty worthwhile...
 

Seaf0ur

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yeah... not gonna do as many of the glue cross... but thats just cause I'm gonna hit the small flowering one with agent orange... plus I'm sure thats been done anyways.... the NorCal Catpiss x Chem D .... now, I'd bet that nobodies ever done that....
 

unregistered190

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STS

STS

OK guys....I wanna play too so planning on reversing a couple of plants using STS to get some pollen as I have no males at the moment. Going to try Pre98 Bubba and a WIFI first. Any recommendations from those that have used it? I plan on using CBG's recipe and spraying @ flip...then two weeks later? Whatcha all think?

CBG's recipe taken from another thread on here

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]1g Silver mixed into 60ml RO
6G Sodium mixed into 240ml RO

Mix the 300ml into 600ml RO for a total of 900ml..

Spray at night in cool place 2x. The 2nd application is done 2 weeks after the 1st..
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Thanks in advance :tiphat:
 

Seaf0ur

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I dont know but I'm interested... CS dont seem as effective as STS

I'm still spraying catpiss in the morning when I see hairs growing... no balls yet.

I'd rather spray a couple times as opposed to daily for weeks like I've been doing...
 

Mikenite69

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Hey c4 if you spray with ga3 he will most likely turn into a female. Forum member aliendawg documented spraying his male batf and turning it into a female plant. If you search the forums u will find the thread or maybe I can dig it up and post it for ya.
 

Seaf0ur

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I was in it... I think he was dat ugly dog e back then...

Ga3 is how I first started reversing females but the stretch is crazy...

GA3, STS, or CS turn females to males
It's ethephon that turns males into females

reason for Ga3 is that it is the plants version of testosterone... and I still have a bunch...


http://www.cliffsnotes.com/sciences/biology/plant-biology/growth-of-plants/types-of-plant-hormones

gibberellins and ethylene concentrations determine the sex of the flowers: Flower buds exposed to high concentrations of ethylene produce carpellate flowers, while gibberellins induce staminate ones.
so I'm literally thinking a male hormone boost might help... probably not though...
 

Seaf0ur

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In any event it seems that Ga3 treatments result in sterile males anyways....

Effects of Gibberellic Acid Treatment for Pollen Sterility Induction
on the Physiological Activity and Endogenous Hormone Levels of
the Seed in Safflower
http://journals.tubitak.gov.tr/biology/issues/biy-02-26-4/biy-26-4-8-0203-3.pdf
In this research, our aim was to determine the effects of gibberellic acid, which was applied to safflower plants (Carthamus tinctorius L. cv. Dinçer 5-118) for pollen sterility induction, on some physiological activity and endogenous hormone levels of the seeds. Exogenously applied gibberellic acid (GA3) strongly influenced the endogenous hormone levels of the seeds by decreasing the levels of GA3 and zeatin, and increasing the levels of indole-3-acetic acid (IAA) and abscisic acid (ABA). The lowered endogenous GA3/ABA and zeatin/IAA ratios in the seeds significantly decreased the germination percentage and hypocotyl elongation, respectively.
The seeds from GA3 treated plants had more hull percentage and less oil content than seeds from the non-GA3 treated plants. As a consequence, it was indicated that poor germination and emergence vigor might be a major problem in hybrid safflower seeds produced from plants treated with gibberellic acid.


GENETIC-PHYTOHORMONAL INTERACTIONS IN
MALE FERTILITY AND MALE STERILITY
PHENOTYPE EXPRESSION IN SUNFLOWER
http://www.doiserbia.nb.rs/img/doi/1018-1806/2008/1018-18060848039D.pdf
Our results indicate the occurrence of structural changes as a result of different auxin and gibberellin contents and their ratio. Therefore, the male sterile genotypes are characterized by high IAA/GA3 ratio. Also, the GA3 treatment of fertile plants, which resulted in phenotypic male sterility, induced an increase of the IAA/GA3 ratio caused by the augmentation of endogenous auxins and gibberellins amount, which finally lead to a ratio approximately the same as in the male sterile genotypes


and theres this...

Transgenic Studies on the Involvement of Cytokinin and Gibberellin in Male Development
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC166887/
we used tissue-specific promoters expressing CKX1 and gai, genes involved in oxidative cytokinin degradation and gibberellin (GA) signal transduction, respectively, to study the roles of cytokinin and GA in male organ development. Accumulation of CKX1 in reproductive tissues of transgenic maize (Zea mays) resulted in male-sterile plants. The male development of these plants was restored by applications of kinetin and thidiazuron. Similarly, expression of gai specifically in anthers and pollen of tobacco (Nicotiana tabacum) and Arabidopsis resulted in the abortion of these respective tissues. The gai-induced male-sterile phenotype exhibited by the transgenic plants was reversible by exogenous applications of kinetin. Our results provide molecular evidence of the involvement of cytokinin and GA in male development and support the hypothesis that the male development is controlled in concert by multiple hormones. These studies also suggest a potential method for generating maintainable male sterility in plants by using existing agrochemicals that would reduce the expense of seed production for existing hybrid crops and provide a method to produce hybrid varieties of traditionally non-hybrid crops.
 

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