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San Diego Finest Cuts #3

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I've got a stalk of sinsemilla growing in my back
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Did someone say pheno hunt? I lucked into some pollen from a friend, family tree has some big names. Hit 16 of my favorite strains and even got a single tiny seed from a preflower on my Wet Dream mother, which did germinate and is growing strong...bonus! OGKB was in there too but only got 2 viable seeds from the whole plant, so I'm saying a rare prayer for it to be a male. At least they popped and are growing good! Hopefully some good phenos show up, I'm already itching to name them.

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Do you have any of the Animal Cookies x the new male?
 

resin_lung

I cough up honey oil
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Any of you cats thinking about going to the Harvest Cup this weekend?

I never go to these but have been asked to roll up and have a chat with a really well known breeder I admire and I couldn't say no.

I'm a bit nervous as I don't have any tattoos or gauges in my ears and don't know what to expect.haha

I'm sure I'll stick out like a sore thumb!

Lemme know if your going and wanna meet up.

I'll feel better rolling through in the standard 2x2 cover formation!haha
 

Hammerhead

Disabled Farmer
ICMag Donor
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lol, I got tats but there not on my neck, Face ;). Its all good u can look like Mr.Rogers no ones gonna care.
 

DRM Ranch

Member

That's right up there with the man bun...

Woowhoo! Good lookin out! Now I can be all incognito'n shit!haha

Grab some skinny jeans, and lumber jack flannel from Forever 21 and you'll have the whole urban camouflage thing locked down...

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In other news I was reading older threads on the whole
Chem D mottled leaf variegation thing, my toying with what I have has not worked, can anyone shine some light on some options.

At the moment I run Dyna Gro, temps are between 70° and 75°, humidity is between 50% and 60%, pH never falls out of the 5.5 to 6.5 range going in at 5.7, PPMs I cycle between 650 to 800 as per my hanna combo meter. I calibrate the pH side of the meter at every use. Lights in veg are t5ho 432W. Air exchange is 1 full exchange every 3 minutes.

I am not particularly attached to this cut, but I can't go down without a proper fight, any words of wisdom would be great.
 

dank.frank

ef.yu.se.ka.e.em
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Epsom salt. 2tsp per gallon of water. Not Ca/Mg issue. Just Mg. Thus the magnesium sulfate.

When growing chems I up the Mg. They just seem to need more. Chem D when grown right makes some of the very best FMCD you can hope for.



dank.Frank
 

DoomsDay

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Slurm male has been clipped. Anyone beside EC need / want some pollen?
 

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DRM Ranch

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Epsom salt. 2tsp per gallon of water. Not Ca/Mg issue. Just Mg. Thus the magnesium sulfate.

When growing chems I up the Mg. They just seem to need more. Chem D when grown right makes some of the very best FMCD you can hope for.



dank.Frank

2tsp/gal foliar, or mixed with the nutrients? Also what frequency do you suggest?

The reason I ask about frequency is because Dyna-Gro has a product called Mag-Pro that suggests intermittent application, it's (N) 2%, (P2O5) 15%, (K20) 4%, (Mg) 2%, (S) 1.5%

Magnesium sulfate is going to provide a more focused source of (Mg) and (S), have you found a need to adjust any other aspect of the nutrient solution, I assume dropping intermittent use of Mag-Pro in Veg in my situation makes logical sense but I'll defer making any drastic change till I hear of your experience.

Thanks for your help, I truly appreciate it.
 

dank.frank

ef.yu.se.ka.e.em
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If all you are trying to address is the odd stripping on the chems, it takes a lot of Mg. Nothing else additional necessary. Just increase the Mg. The sulfate won't hurt except to maybe increase terps a bit. I don't see the need for all the rest of that nutrient profile, personally.

I'm a small water only soil guy, so when/if I need extra Mg, I've always dissolved epsom in 1 cup boiling water, mixed into a gallon jug and watered in for 3 days in a row during wks 3-5, when excessive growth is happening at the onset of flower.

I see no reason why you couldn't just dissolve it like any other salt into your reservoir at the same rates.

With soil - Too much K locks out Mg. Too much Mg locks out Ca. By the time you get the Mg you need in chem lines, via a source like k-mag/sul-po-mag, you end up with too much K. With dolomite limestone, you get too much Mg chasing proper Ca levels. Using just oyster shell, you don't get the Ca fast enough.

My best solution has been varied inputs at the right ratios for everything and fixing chem dominant plants that show this lime streaking with additional Mg watered in. I don't like to spray my plants so I don't do foliars. With Chem D, it goes away. With Skunk Va it goes away. With this Lazy Lightning cut we run (Chem D/Sour D x SSH/Chem D) I can not get the trait to vanish completely. Only falede to barely noticeab.

I have been told by another in the slownickel lounge, the issue is related specifically to iron. I'm not certain on that.

Here's why this issue is important and one I tend to follow - Lazy Lightning shots by SpadednFaded:

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With the types of plants that surface in chem-line breeding, it's worth putting up with their annoyances to learn to perfect them. Us east coast chem growers know this issue well. :joint:



dank.Frank
 

DRM Ranch

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I have been told by another in the slownickel lounge, the issue is related specifically to iron. I'm not certain on that.

dank.Frank

I would tend to agree on this, I tried Botanicare Cal-Mag plus which has iron added the mix at various concentrations and timing...that failed to solve any issues with the leaves.

I'll give the epsom salt a go, and watch for any lockout issues.

Thanks again
 

stoney917

i Am SoFaKiNg WeTod DiD
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lazy lightning still haven't seen her first hand but everyone keeps saying how great she is... So what's she smoke like chem ish glue y.. ???? I've ducked around with adjusting for chem strains, extra mg is the answer but if ya not monocroppin will duck with other strains... I haven't seen much difference in quality or yield letting them run with the slight deficiencies... Rather then adjusting my recipe for the extra cal mag throwing other ratios off... But ya some Epson salt could be a easy quick fix...
 

DRM Ranch

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lazy lightning still haven't seen her first hand but everyone keeps saying how great she is... So what's she smoke like chem ish glue y.. ???? I've ducked around with adjusting for chem strains, extra mg is the answer but if ya not monocroppin will duck with other strains... I haven't seen much difference in quality or yield letting them run with the slight deficiencies... Rather then adjusting my recipe for the extra cal mag throwing other ratios off... But ya some Epson salt could be a easy quick fix...

Dead hooker pussy, whatever image that conjures up for you I will never know, but it is said to be the unique descriptor of the smell of ChD. It is, for me at least, a combination of both head and body stone that comes on strong enough to clearly mow over a current high. Flavor is subjective, so to that end I will be a little vague, it is not in my opinion the Starbucks of weed. The flavor it does have is just not as deep and interesting as its effects.
 

onavelzy

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Dead hooker pussy, whatever image that conjures up for you I will never know, but it is said to be the unique descriptor of the smell of ChD. It is, for me at least, a combination of both head and body stone that comes on strong enough to clearly mow over a current high. Flavor is subjective, so to that end I will be a little vague, it is not in my opinion the Starbucks of weed. The flavor it does have is just not as deep and interesting as its effects.


You gotta love a strain whose name or description all but screams "Don't smoke me, I taste like S*H*I*T"
 

dank.frank

ef.yu.se.ka.e.em
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LL tastes like a 14wk haze hybrid type plant. Has that limey note upfront followed by engine grease and chem funk. Exhale is woody haze.

Hits hard at first, very intense rush that'll make your palms sweaty. After about 30 min she settles down and gets very stony. The effects are strong enough it leaves you feeling hungover the next day and you have to sort of recollect and put the missing pieces back in place, mentally.

Flowers in 9wk. Has 3# per lamp potential. She really doesn't taste anything like chem D as a whole. The D is like stale gym socks and sharp chemical garlic/oniony skunk.



dank.Frank
 
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rasputin

The Mad Monk
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In other news I was reading older threads on the whole
Chem D mottled leaf variegation thing, my toying with what I have has not worked, can anyone shine some light on some options.

The issue with the ChemD clone is almost certainly a leaf variegation mutation caused by a defect in one or more metabolic pathways within the plant.

Mg is the coordinating ion in chlorophyll, and the inefficient uptake of Mg contributes directly to the uneven production of chlorophyll in the leaves, causing the variegation.

Basically, ChemD has a hole in its chin and Mg runs out when feeding. Bump up the Mg specifically and the spotting clears up. Just be careful drenching MgSO4.
 
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