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Russian hooligans attacked kids and disabled English fans

Genghis Kush

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..and prolly some genes(white skin, blue eyes) from neanderthals



possibly,


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Now, a new study from the same team drills down further into that remarkable data to search for genes that were under strong natural selection—including traits so favorable that they spread rapidly throughout Europe in the past 8000 years. By comparing the ancient European genomes with those of recent ones from the 1000 Genomes Project, population geneticist Iain Mathieson, a postdoc in the Harvard University lab of population geneticist David Reich, found five genes associated with changes in diet and skin pigmentation that underwent strong natural selection.
First, the scientists confirmed an earlier report that the hunter-gatherers in Europe could not digest the sugars in milk 8000 years ago, according to a poster. They also noted an interesting twist: The first farmers also couldn’t digest milk. The farmers who came from the Near East about 7800 years ago and the Yamnaya pastoralists who came from the steppes 4800 years ago lacked the version of the LCT gene that allows adults to digest sugars in milk. It wasn’t until about 4300 years ago that lactose tolerance swept through Europe.
When it comes to skin color, the team found a patchwork of evolution in different places, and three separate genes that produce light skin, telling a complex story for how European’s skin evolved to be much lighter during the past 8000 years. The modern humans who came out of Africa to originally settle Europe about 40,000 years are presumed to have had dark skin, which is advantageous in sunny latitudes. And the new data confirm that about 8500 years ago, early hunter-gatherers in Spain, Luxembourg, and Hungary also had darker skin: They lacked versions of two genes—SLC24A5 and SLC45A2—that lead to depigmentation and, therefore, pale skin in Europeans today.
But in the far north—where low light levels would favor pale skin—the team found a different picture in hunter-gatherers: Seven people from the 7700-year-old Motala archaeological site in southern Sweden had both light skin gene variants, SLC24A5 and SLC45A2. They also had a third gene, HERC2/OCA2, which causes blue eyes and may also contribute to light skin and blond hair. Thus ancient hunter-gatherers of the far north were already pale and blue-eyed, but those of central and southern Europe had darker skin.
Then, the first farmers from the Near East arrived in Europe; they carried both genes for light skin. As they interbred with the indigenous hunter-gatherers, one of their light-skin genes swept through Europe, so that central and southern Europeans also began to have lighter skin. The other gene variant, SLC45A2, was at low levels until about 5800 years ago when it swept up to high frequency.
The team also tracked complex traits, such as height, which are the result of the interaction of many genes. They found that selection strongly favored several gene variants for tallness in northern and central Europeans, starting 8000 years ago, with a boost coming from the Yamnaya migration, starting 4800 years ago. The Yamnaya have the greatest genetic potential for being tall of any of the populations, which is consistent with measurements of their ancient skeletons. In contrast, selection favored shorter people in Italy and Spain starting 8000 years ago, according to the paper now posted on the bioRxiv preprint server. Spaniards, in particular, shrank in stature 6000 years ago, perhaps as a result of adapting to colder temperatures and a poor diet.
Surprisingly, the team found no immune genes under intense selection, which is counter to hypotheses that diseases would have increased after the development of agriculture.
The paper doesn’t specify why these genes might have been under such strong selection. But the likely explanation for the pigmentation genes is to maximize vitamin D synthesis, said paleoanthropologist Nina Jablonski of Pennsylvania State University (Penn State), University Park, as she looked at the poster’s results at the meeting. People living in northern latitudes often don’t get enough UV to synthesize vitamin D in their skin so natural selection has favored two genetic solutions to that problem—evolving pale skin that absorbs UV more efficiently or favoring lactose tolerance to be able to digest the sugars and vitamin D naturally found in milk. “What we thought was a fairly simple picture of the emergence of depigmented skin in Europe is an exciting patchwork of selection as populations disperse into northern latitudes,” Jablonski says. “This data is fun because it shows how much recent evolution has taken place.”
Anthropological geneticist George Perry, also of Penn State, notes that the work reveals how an individual’s genetic potential is shaped by their diet and adaptation to their habitat. “We’re getting a much more detailed picture now of how selection works.”
http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2015/04/how-europeans-evolved-white-skin
 

growsjoe1

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THREAD TITLE

Russian hooligans attacked kids and disabled English fans

Lets discuss that, ok?

I will start...that was some dumb shit, it was very bad. Anyone else...cause I have nothing to say but that act was bad.
 

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not a good move for the Russians,,,,,are there "supporters" aware of how many Russians now live in England especially central London?,,not that any sort of hooligan would care, but this sort of thing could put innocent Russians at risk,,,,,
good and bad on both sides but if the "powers that be" were aware that some Russian supporters were preparing for the euros like they were going to war then why was nothing said or done?
as i believe a lot of English hooligans were not allowed to travel because of past problems but the Russian hooligans could travel without any restrictions?,,,,,
very sad at the end of the day and it only takes a handful from each side to mess it up for everyone,,,,,
all this crap as nothing to do with the "beautiful game",,,,s2
 

Tulku

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Large groups from all over with scores to settle going back a long time, this has to be understood..right or wrong it's happening and will continue to happen make no mistake about that.
Got a fair few friends over there with quite a different story to tell than what you read/watch from the media provided, literally getting taken by surprise and all hell breaking loose within the space of a few seconds, pretty organised assaults from what I'm told.....off to the Wales game Thursday, so Ill let you know how that pans out.
 

growsjoe1

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I wish you would all just quit painting all huliguns in a bad light.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wx04avR8C9A

Hooligans are just that Hooligans

i believe your name is huligan, you are not a hooligan.

Your words over the years that I've read your posts have been kind, insightful, most of the time intelligent.

You had it rough, most people in your case would have been dead by now, you are not. It was because your a smart guy, ok?

Thanks for the vid, I liked it.... but still what does it have to do with the thread title.

The vid was a nice distraction though...

sigh...

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growsjoe1

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Large groups from all over with scores to settle going back a long time, this has to be understood..right or wrong it's happening and will continue to happen make no mistake about that.
Got a fair few friends over there with quite a different story to tell than what you read/watch from the media provided, literally getting taken by surprise and all hell breaking loose within the space of a few seconds, pretty organised assaults from what I'm told.....off to the Wales game Thursday, so Ill let you know how that pans out.

please ccome back and lets us know, ok?
 

huligun

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In South America football often incites riots and isolated violencia. Many a good family may forego some footballs games in Colombia or Argentina to avoid such violence.

The point is, the football hooliganism is not isolated to Russia or Europe in general. It is a world wide problem.

Such a fun game too. I play it recreational with Europeans and Latin Americans in Seattle. No Russians tho.
 

944s2

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Large groups from all over with scores to settle going back a long time, this has to be understood..right or wrong it's happening and will continue to happen make no mistake about that.
Got a fair few friends over there with quite a different story to tell than what you read/watch from the media provided, literally getting taken by surprise and all hell breaking loose within the space of a few seconds, pretty organised assaults from what I'm told.....off to the Wales game Thursday, so Ill let you know how that pans out.
hey Tulku......safe journey and take care when your there
its not suprising,,,,,bits and pieces are coming back that groups are going equiped with gum-sheilds,,knuckle dusters and other weapons,,
large groups making co-ordinated attacks on much lesser numbers,,
it sounds very organised,,one things for sure planes and ferrys will be packed in the next few days as other peeps from England attempt to reach France to "help out" there own ,,,,
pretty sure the police are not helping things,,where were they last night when it kicked off inside the ground at the end of the game,,,
i could only see stewards and volunteers trying in vain to help,,,
lets hope it all ends as quickly as it started but ???,,,,s2
 

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huligun,

Great response...lol. right on topic and it is what this threads about. I wish you had some Russians to play with. I hear, not all of them are hooligans.
 

Tulku

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Fair few Germans and Italians are due pretty soon!.....shit will get hectic if these are organised and up for it, believe me.
 

huligun

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Hooligans are just that Hooligans

i believe your name is huligan, you are not a hooligan.

Your words over the years that I've read your posts have been kind, insightful, most of the time intelligent.

You had it rough, most people in your case would have been dead by now, you are not. It was because your a smart guy, ok?

Thanks for the vid, I liked it.... but still what does it have to do with the thread title.

The vid was a nice distraction though...

sigh...

Yes, I was making fun or racism. However, the bad thing about most stereotypes is that they are true. It is unfortunate that a small minority of all ethnic backgrounds paint their whole ethnic background in a bad light.

And thank you for you kind words. I was always the "wimp" of the family, the youngest of three brothers. I was young enough to see what they got in trouble for and the stakes when I was too young to get involved. I loved Art and studied art all my life. There is no art in being a thug, killing people and smuggling cocaine. It is a sick and horrible life that destroys family and cities. Indeed my city and my family were destroyed by gangsters that ran it like a narco economy. I hated it. I prayed for my brothers in church, but God ignored me and let them die a horrible death. I have nightmares still and wake up scared to death over what happened to my family.
 

stoned-trout

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what you call football puts me to sleep I don't feel like fighting..what we have here called football makes me want grilled food and beer and still not fighting....yeehaw... guess we are more civilized here in the new land...lol
 

Tulku

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what you call football puts me to sleep I don't feel like fighting..what we have here called football makes me want grilled food and beer and still not fighting....yeehaw... guess we are more civilized here in the new land...lol

Unfortunately this has nothing to do with football as we know it....It's about territory and never letting anyone take a piss on that territory...whoever they are ;) Sounds strange but this has been going on in the UK from the early seventies, throwing darts at opposing fans and having a tear up was the norm
 

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