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running a warehouse smoothly - share your tips!

I don't see a lot of talk about some of the things unique to getting in and running a warehouse location right and proper. There are some things that you learn the hard way, and things that don't necessarily come out of common sense. For those of us new to the warehouse game, those of us who are old salts, and those who are getting ready to step up out of the residential gig, let's talk about it!


I'll start:
-getting on a demand meter is great! I don't know how it is for everyone, but we saved a very very solid chunk of money on the power bill switching to demand-based billing. Our power co. did it after the first few months, but I definitely would have requested it right off the bat if I had known.

-Know your 3-phase power, they aren't all the same. When we looked for locations, that wasn't on the list of things to look at. The type of 3-phase you have will play a large part in how wiring goes. We are in an old location with 3-phase ungrounded delta, so in order to get 120v power we have to use step-down transformers.

-Mini splits are the shit! If you are willing to do some reading on how to properly evacuate lines, you can pick up the equipment to do the installation yourself for a decent price and avoid having to call an HVAC guy out for it. Make sure you know the routine inside out before you go and trash that shiny new mitsubishi though!

-Trapezes beat the shit out of putting a bunch of hooks in the ceiling. If you aren't familiar with the concept, you run a rail (we used EMT) for each row of lighting you are throwing up, and then can hang all your lighting equipment from those instead of mounting ballasts and hoods in separate spots. It's clean, simple, and gets stuff out of the way in your rooms.

-Jack's 5-12-26 hydroponic and calcium nitrate are a godsend. You can buy it in bulk from JR Peters for DIRTY cheap, and it works! It pains me to think about the amount of money I spent on GH flora when I am seeing the same results for a tiny fraction of the cost now.

-Pest management is HUGE HUGE HUGE. In all my time growing in residential, I had absolutely zero pest issues. I came into my warehouse with a near-total lack of experience on how to dispatch the borg. Stay on top of preventative pest control because when you have to blow through $70 bottles of azamax like cheap cocaine in the 80s just to keep your shop from turning into a haunted house it isn't fun. Regular planned spraying and doing things like having an airlock and clean grow-room-only clothing are the best thing since sliced bread.

-Learn how to do framing and drywall. You can build badass growrooms for chump change if you can handle it yourself. Basic construction skills and building everything to code are within the reach of anyone with half a brain.

-Make the place comfortable. Having a fridge, tv, some comfortable couches, and nice glass will go a long way to making life not suck when you have to pull a 24hr work day. Being able to happy and comfortable is so important when there is a mountain of work to do and you need to take a break.









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icdog

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Do you have any pics of the trapeze thing you mentioned?

Must have is a high temp light shut off switch.
 

hup234

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unistruts instead of emt,that's what their made for,great for changing elevations...great thread
 

joe schmo

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what do you do to keep the smell in check? i wouldn't want people to know whats going on inside.. i take it that doing sealed rooms would be a must and maybe a dozen 5 gal buckets of ona with fans
 

east_side

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running a warehouse smoothly - share your tips!

When you do a warehouse, is it much better to go with hydroponics or dirt is still a good idea? How big do you consider a warehouse, 20-40-80-120 lights? Whats possible for a 2-4 man show?
 

Jbomber79

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This thread is why people join IC.

Let us not forget about the drying/trimming and storage/inventory room.
 

globel

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industrial power is weird - Delta 3 phase has 2 120v poles and 1 240v pole Some stuff runs better when on delta... Like ac compressor... Some stuff blows up when wired delta. Electronic ballasts and fluorescent lights and dehumidifiers. Its nice to have a building with 1 fat 480v and use a step down.. Atleast you know you have the amps.. But in my experience alot of spots have multiple services coming into the same building or its split amongst suits that are all connected. Most electricians (residential and small commercial) Have no fucking clue about industrial power...

Buy residential 5ton AC - By far the fastest cheapest way to cool your room. the 5 ton residential Split unit is the most common ac manufactured they get super cheap. 14 lights per ac. Put the damn condenser on the roof if you can. I got 5 5tons inside one location I use 5 10" max fans to exhust the building as well as have a massive swamp cooler inside the warehouse.

Dehumidifier will cost more then AC - If your rooms are sealed then you need massive dehumidification. Same amount of power as the ac Go with dri eze Or Phoenix air. DOnt say I dident tell you so.

Preventative maintenance - I spray all plants with forbid or floramite in week 1. agian after 3 days.
I dunk them when I put them into the flower room end of second flower week. After I slip the lights i hit them room with eagle 1. I use a ulv fogger on my moms monthly usually with flormite or forbid. I spray when i see no problems... If i see problems i usually chuck them in the trash..

Simplify everything- I use to use ez cloners... I had clean them every time i had to monitor the water. Sure roots in a week then transplant I got to wait another week to get through the 1" rockwool... Now I clone directly into rockwool. I soak the slab in 5.5 with a little super thrive... thats it.
pop them in and I add a little water with the moms water diluted to 600ppm at 5.5. I dont evean look at them. Some times i dont take the domes off for 2 weeks, Transplanting consists of me placing a 1" Rockwool clone into hole in on a 4" cube (i can do alot fast by myself) then I pot the 4" cube onto a 6" cube. in flower and Its done... WHen i am finished I smash them with a mop bucket and toss them. No cleaning pots or reusing dirt. And I can control it.

Top feed drip- shit has saved my life... just fill the rez and it keeeps them alive ...I use drain to waste so i ph it once and boom its done you can recirculate if you want.. I don't thats more work... Top feed drip allows me to soak my rw in plain tap water then i flush with nutes.. Oh and i can fill a 250g res in 12 minutes add nutes in 10 minutes. then i use a rainbird sprinkler timer to open the solenoids on my tables to water.. 100% control all the plants get the same amount of water and I can water 16 tables with 32 plants each automaticly. Its cheap and neccisary

PVC everything- I use a latice on my tables using pvc and nets... I run the same pvc for the main drip lines aswell as the drains

big sink- I use my sink for a lot of shit. I have a 75 gallon res on a secure bench with a 3" shower drain on it.. All my condensate drains here as well as the feed water. Big hole let the water flow. I use hose as the faucet.

blow it up fast- everyone wants a stagered grow.. You will get one over time.. DOnt get into a building though and try to start to stagger it out the gate.. Clone clone clone Grow grow grow Fill it up ... they will start to stagger on there own with your workload.. Go in there with plans on starting all your rooms right away and the reality sets in... If you have plans on staggering and start that way your times are gonna be off. Have plants ready all ways at least untill your rolling
 

Lester Beans

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Retain a lawyer.

Know your laws.

Know when and who will be showing up. Fire Marshall, insurance inspector, code enforcers, whoever may be needing to stop by, know when and why. Locked down rest of time, no surprise visitors.

Great not good security. Stout doors, dog, security system with cameras that has remote monitoring and notifies YOU of fires, break in, and environment issues. To me this is number one for piece of mind. From your device you can look at your warehouse rooms, exterior , and make judgment calls on emergencies yourself rather than alerting the emergency services.

Do not cut corners on construction. If you don't know how to wire a warehouse, find someone. Same with HVAC and structural building. Plumbing is important too and water and electricity will reside in close quarters.

Don't steal power, tempting, but people get caught and it causes unwanted attention.

Clean. Clean the place non stop and do not introduce outside pests. Have filters on air intakes, change clothes before entering, no outside clones, etc

And finally make sure you can grow your ass off. Very few growers can pull A+ quality on a large scale.

Good luck and be safe in your jungles people!!
 

Dready_jake

Member
" If your rooms are sealed then you need massive dehumidification. Same amount of power as the ac Go with dri eze Or Phoenix air. DOnt say I dident tell you so."

False.

You don't need dehueys you need air movement. As many fans as possible. Stagnant air causes mold not humidity. You want it to feel tropical in there. Especially sativa dominants. People thinks sativas don't yield because Sativa's prefer higher humidity.indica's can handle lower humidities but sativas cant
 

Rabbi

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Nice thread. Hoping to see it grow bigger with more advice and tips. I've got a warehouse just waiting for me but I'm currently stuck waiting for government approval of change of address from my residential place.
 

grow nerd

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" If your rooms are sealed then you need massive dehumidification. Same amount of power as the ac Go with dri eze Or Phoenix air. DOnt say I dident tell you so."

False.
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You don't need dehueys you need air movement. As many fans as possible. Stagnant air causes mold not humidity. You want it to feel tropical in there. Especially sativa dominants. People thinks sativas don't yield because Sativa's prefer higher humidity.indica's can handle lower humidities but sativas cant

So you worked as a waterboy for some dispensary's warehouse grow, a position where you weren't even allowed to take pictures, and you think you know it all?

I thought globel gave very solid advice all the way through.
 

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