Ron Paul 2012!!! Your thoughts on who we should pick for our "Cause"?

[SacredBreh]

I am half way through the Huckabee Forum and I just want to Puke!

I am half way through the Huckabee Forum and I just want to Puke!

Lots of words and catch phrases but very very little information being communicated. The only one to answer a question directly so far is Huntsman on right to life question. I am so sick of these smooth talking jackasses. Opps Newt just basically outlined Ron Pauls short term plan with the Federal Reserve..... now their taking his ideas and watering them down..... but promises, promises..... the Record of past deeds cries BULLSHIT!


ShroomDr--agree with you on the Civil Rights Act but he has as much chance of repealing that as he does to fly with his own wings.

Rukind-- If I had a choice 20 years ago to pick a currency backed by gold or fiat currency, I would be able to retire right now and so would a great many others. Now that is a straight out fact.. not a theory.

Peace

 

[ShroomDr]

And if my aunt had a dong, she would be my uncle.



Im not arguing for Nixon shock, im just saying what needs done in now.

Although...

An interesting fact about silver is 'the west' was sending so much of it to china in the late 1800's they had to take it off of the currency market. The chinese didnt buy western goods. Too bad for the Chinese you cant eat or defend yourself with silver bullion. The lopsided trade left them very weak, and ultimately set them back at least a century. Many things contributed, but ultimately there poor international exchanges are at the heart.

A cautionary tale in many aspects, and IMHO a good argument for fiat currency.

FWIW they now hoard copper and rare earth elements, two much better choices metallurgiclly.

 

[SacredBreh]

ok... we will use that example.....

ok... we will use that example.....

If my daughter had a dong and had a choice today to have a currency backed by gold..... she would be my son who would be retired in twenty years. Unless gold values rising over the last centuries changes in the next twenty years. NOT!

Peace

 

[itisme]

I think Ron Paul is a nut job specifically for thinking Iran needs ZERO sanctions, the Civil Right Act should be repealed, and that we should return to the gold standard.
Almost everything else i agree with him on. Although im not sure how 'isolationist' he really wants to go.

He wants to open up the lines of communications with IRAN and not continue to punish a country with 70,000,000 people. That is the opposite of ISOLATIONIST when you have open communication and free trade. Waging war is not what America needs to export. Ron Paul doesn't want to wage undeclared wars and put sanctions on poor counties, this allows them to better take care of themselves and not rely on foreign aid. The isolationist label is a term the media uses extremely inaccurately when it comes to Ron Paul but that is their intent, to smear Ron Paul.

He actually wants to create competition for the FED. He has said commodities back currency is also an option so nobody can corner the market. The first thing he has to do is get a full audit of the FED and have to find out how bad America's back door has been ripped wide open.

Noun 1. isolationist - an advocate of isolationism in international affairs
advocate, advocator, exponent, proponent - a person who pleads for a cause or propounds an idea
Adj. 1. isolationist - of or relating to isolationism
isolationistic

 

[CannaBunkerMan]

The Ron Paul Revolution has a new fight song! Could someone tell me why Newt doesn't have a fight song? You think Mitten's supporters are break-dancing to dig up support?

NO!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=TYb3ipCeAOQ#!

The young people make the difference. How did Obama get into office? Through the enthuiastic support of younger americans.

 

[dagnabit]

WTF?!?!?

sanction iran? what good do you think that would do?
besides starve innocent iranian citizens,strengthening wackmadenijob,creating more enemies and starting WWIII?

worst fucking idea ever!!!

 

[CannaBunkerMan]

WTF?!?!?

sanction iran? what good do you think that would do?
besides starve innocent iranian citizens,strengthening wackmadenijob,creating more enemies and starting WWIII?

worst fucking idea ever!!!

Unfortunately, it seems this sentiment is in the vast minority in the USA. The drums of war are banging!

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

Unfortunately, it seems this sentiment is in the vast minority in the USA. The drums of war are banging!

It's early, party-wing campaign rhetoric.

 

[bentom187]

He,s gaining on Romney,all thepundents on TV are saying SC is a closed primary to keep people from voting.
Fox is asking people to actually give proof of their biased coverage of ron Paul,lol.
There's a bunch ofdelinquents on face book planning to show up in SC in kkk outfits please ignore them.
I'd give links but I'm typing from a tablet and its a pia.

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

Who is saying SC is closed primary? Open primary is nothing new in SC. A recent bill to close the primary process to registered party affiliation hasn't passed.

 

[dagnabit]

It's early, party-wing campaign rhetoric.

which party?

President Obama: "For years the Iranian government has defied United Nations security council resolutions"


US President Barack Obama has signed into law new sanctions against Iran intended to impede the development of its nuclear programme.

The measures, which penalise foreign companies that trade with Iran, were overwhelmingly approved by US Congress last week.

Mr Obama said the sanctions would strike "at the heart" of Iran's ability to fund and develop nuclear programmes.

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

When did sanctions qualify as war? Ron Paul has already said he's not an isolationist. Might be unrealistic to place those parameters on others.

There's no guarantee that Iran doesn't attempt to close the strait.

 

[bentom187]

Who is saying SC is closed primary? Open primary is nothing new in SC. A recent bill to close the primary process to registered party affiliation hasn't passed.

Multiple reporters from MSN/fox/cnn
Mostly MSn you could prolly find a few vids on YouTube

 

[dagnabit]

sanctions are the first step...

sanctions harm nobody but the populous of the sanctioned country. the powers still eat while the citizens starve. all the while the powers ratchet up the propaganda machine and rail the citizenry into hating the country imposing the sanctions.
now both countries are beating the drums for war.
now the sanctioners have taken the appropriate steps toward diplomacy(resolutions and sanctions)and have the argument that sanctions are not working.

it's like HR one must have a verbal and written warning before termination.

besides lets just look at the whole idea of sanctions...

one country decides they dont like something another is doing. they get several others to agree and "sanction" them.
but what does that mean?
it means embargoes,import export bans and trade prevention methods.
so who hurts?
not wackmadenajob. the butcher,the baker and the candlestick maker suffer.

not to mention it's like a grown adult smacking another grown adult on the fanny for swearing.
we have no right other than might to tell iran what they can or can not pursue.

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

Multiple reporters from MSN/fox/cnn
Mostly MSn you could prolly find a few vids on YouTube

 

[ronbo51]

What is Dr Paul's stance on domestic energy production? If we became responsible and took care of our own needs, which we could easily do, then we wouldn't have to give a shit about Iran. A true Libertarian president would unleash a fierce economic boom by unlocking all that energy production, and that's just one aspect of economy that would explode if shackles were undone. But many people would be offended and surprised to see authentic Capitalism, not government led and sponsored, and payed for, Crony Capitalism, succeed, because they have so much invested in the idea that Capitalism is bad.
Dr Paul's stance on Marijuana is great, but it is a reflection of the deeper idea that freedom puts responsibility for your individual choices squarely upon you, and that a Weak Federal Government should not have the ability, much less the Right, to meddle so much in the affairs of the People.
Think of it like this: Newt wants the Government to meddle in your shit just as much as any Liberal does. Newt just wants to use the Power to do what he thinks needs doing. ALL the candidates believe in using the mighty Power to steer and cajole and to outright demand. Libertarians believe that the Federal Government should be small and weak so that even if it wanted to it would be unable to force the People to act.
I will gladly vote for Dr Paul if given the chance, but it will be because he believes in the 10'th Amendment, which is where the real fight will have to take place. The Commerce Clause cannot be the complete undoing of the Constitution.

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

sanctions are the first step...

sanctions harm nobody but the populous of the sanctioned country. the powers still eat while the citizens starve. all the while the powers ratchet up the propaganda machine and rail the citizenry into hating the country imposing the sanctions.
now both countries are beating the drums for war.
now the sanctioners have taken the appropriate steps toward diplomacy(resolutions and sanctions)and have the argument that sanctions are not working.

it's like HR one must have a verbal and written warning before termination.

besides lets just look at the whole idea of sanctions...

one country decides they dont like something another is doing. they get several others to agree and "sanction" them.
but what does that mean?
it means embargoes,import export bans and trade prevention methods.
so who hurts?
not wackmadenajob. the butcher,the baker and the candlestick maker suffer.

not to mention it's like a grown adult smacking another grown adult on the fanny for swearing.
we have no right other than might to tell iran what they can or can not pursue.

I responded to a post about war. You responded with sanctions, business protocol and hyperbole. I'll leave it at that.

 

[dagnabit]

guess you missed the part where you quoted a post referring to sanctions?

the two are quite intertwined

you might wanna reread 1426,1427,1428 again to see we WERE talking about sanctions.
sanctions are nothing more than a polite prelude.

 

[ShroomDr]

Colbert Super PAC Releases Romney Attack Ad In South Carolina

Mitt Romney is a Serial Killer! Mitt the Ripper!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/15/colbert-super-pac-release_n_1207318.html

Complete with Jonathan Lithgow Narration!

 

[dagnabit]

hilarious!!!