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Ron Paul 2012!!! Your thoughts on who we should pick for our "Cause"?
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Were you trying to be sarcastic, or was that just unintentionally humorous?
I see a picture of a hound, seemingly unaware that the fox he is trailing is standing right behind him. Was that really the metaphor you were aiming for?
^no they are buddies........lol
this could be a pshyc evaluation pic...
i see a fox outwitting a hound(from the foxes prospective)
zym sees a hound to stupid to find the fox(hound's prospective)
zep sees a fox and hound kicking it on the trail(outside prospective?)
i have six kits under my shed... cute little shits.
i see a fox outwitting a hound(from the foxes prospective)
zym sees a hound to stupid to find the fox(hound's prospective)
zep sees a fox and hound kicking it on the trail(outside prospective?)
i have six kits under my shed... cute little shits.
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greenmatter
i see that "romney glaze" in the foxes eyes ...... he needs the hound to get him into the hen house, but you can tell he is waiting for the poor dog to drop the soap
pelosi's seat is up for grabs and theres a liberty cannidate endorsed by RP is challanging her.
http://www.johndennis2012.com/
josh tolley speaks at NY tea party straw poll and wins.
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now heres some grass roots guys kicking butt.
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You have to hand it to Ron Paul supporters, they are the most animated in this election season. For some, like Republican challenger Newt Gingrich, their enthusiasm might even border on the annoying.
At least one hundred Paul supporters stood in front of Newt’s campaign headquarters on Elm Street in Manchester after 6 pm Monday, celebrating their candidate with songs and a laser light show.
I was driving down Elm in a GMC Envoy and had to power down the passenger window. Is that Frank Sinatra’s New York, New York? It is, only the singer is saying it’s up to the voters to chose Ron Paul instead of its up to you, New York, New York. A small amplifier and a speaker stood bungie corded to the top of a white Ford mini van that looked like it had been painted from a can of egg shell white Behr from Lowes. On the hood was a sign reading Ron Paul Revolution. The letters EVOL were spelled backwards so it read LOVE. Yup, these guys love Ron Paul. Who loves Newt? Does any voter love Newt?
I looked for a place to park, which is not easy this time of year in Manchester. Every sidewalk spot is taken. At the Radisson, CBS and the AP are recording. A full moon makes a bit easier to see all the cable wires crawling across the sidewalk under ready-made speed bumps. A chubby woman nearly trips over one in front of me and a cop holding a doberman on a leash.
Some lone wolf carrying an Occupy New Hampshire Primaries sign shouts out “Occupy Democracy! Down with bureaucracy!” His voice vanishes, uncared for like a Tweet.
Closer to Newt’s office, a CVS sign is on the fritz. The letter C is blinking red like a siren. A Manchester police car is parked on the corner of Elm and Stark in front of Ben & Jerry’s where loud rap music is playing an ode to Ron Paul. The guy playing it tells me that a bunch of grassroots singers nationwide made these songs for Paul and they have been flowing into the campaign since Iowa. This week, country pop singer Kelly Clarkson endorsed Paul on Twitter.
I’m thinking that maybe there’s got to be a Newt supporter in the bunch out here, having some friendly words with one another, bad mouthing Obama, the liberals and, of course, the media bias. I did see four Newt supporters. Two young girls had their signs dangling limp to their sides. Two middle aged white men cowered back against the office window, smoking. I looked over their shoulders through the window at dozens of Newt volunteers all crammed into the room, not coming out. Paul supporters had effectively barricaded them inside. Another reporter was inside, writing in a yellow lined notepad the illegible scribble of a New Yorker journalist.
She comes out to join the party. No Newt supporters follow her. We shake hands.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoz...ul-supporters/
http://www.johndennis2012.com/
josh tolley speaks at NY tea party straw poll and wins.
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now heres some grass roots guys kicking butt.
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You have to hand it to Ron Paul supporters, they are the most animated in this election season. For some, like Republican challenger Newt Gingrich, their enthusiasm might even border on the annoying.
At least one hundred Paul supporters stood in front of Newt’s campaign headquarters on Elm Street in Manchester after 6 pm Monday, celebrating their candidate with songs and a laser light show.
I was driving down Elm in a GMC Envoy and had to power down the passenger window. Is that Frank Sinatra’s New York, New York? It is, only the singer is saying it’s up to the voters to chose Ron Paul instead of its up to you, New York, New York. A small amplifier and a speaker stood bungie corded to the top of a white Ford mini van that looked like it had been painted from a can of egg shell white Behr from Lowes. On the hood was a sign reading Ron Paul Revolution. The letters EVOL were spelled backwards so it read LOVE. Yup, these guys love Ron Paul. Who loves Newt? Does any voter love Newt?
I looked for a place to park, which is not easy this time of year in Manchester. Every sidewalk spot is taken. At the Radisson, CBS and the AP are recording. A full moon makes a bit easier to see all the cable wires crawling across the sidewalk under ready-made speed bumps. A chubby woman nearly trips over one in front of me and a cop holding a doberman on a leash.
Some lone wolf carrying an Occupy New Hampshire Primaries sign shouts out “Occupy Democracy! Down with bureaucracy!” His voice vanishes, uncared for like a Tweet.
Closer to Newt’s office, a CVS sign is on the fritz. The letter C is blinking red like a siren. A Manchester police car is parked on the corner of Elm and Stark in front of Ben & Jerry’s where loud rap music is playing an ode to Ron Paul. The guy playing it tells me that a bunch of grassroots singers nationwide made these songs for Paul and they have been flowing into the campaign since Iowa. This week, country pop singer Kelly Clarkson endorsed Paul on Twitter.
I’m thinking that maybe there’s got to be a Newt supporter in the bunch out here, having some friendly words with one another, bad mouthing Obama, the liberals and, of course, the media bias. I did see four Newt supporters. Two young girls had their signs dangling limp to their sides. Two middle aged white men cowered back against the office window, smoking. I looked over their shoulders through the window at dozens of Newt volunteers all crammed into the room, not coming out. Paul supporters had effectively barricaded them inside. Another reporter was inside, writing in a yellow lined notepad the illegible scribble of a New Yorker journalist.
She comes out to join the party. No Newt supporters follow her. We shake hands.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoz...ul-supporters/
Hello Hash,
even if we were to word the above paragraph excluding the feds, it would still work that way because it is the model out-lined where?
yes, the constitution.
the frame, the map, of how the 'powers' are supposed to work. the origin of bureaucracy.
knowing that our human natures are easily corrupted, we lay down the frame-work to drive it into madness with these sort of documents... even the fact that the psychology of someone desiring to become president is well-known, we accept it as healthy because it says so in the constitution.
Ron Paul speaks of the need of a small government, and at the same time, wishes to up-hold the constitution; but no can-do, can't have your cake and eat it at the same time.
the constitution is riddled with so many problems is not even funny, and no dag, I'm not gonna start discussing anything more specifically than a few hints here and there because A: I do not have the time, and B: this is not the proper forum to do so.
like I said already, instead of chewing on that old and dried bone, what the world needs is a paradigm shift, without one, all the mess of bureaucracy, corruption and loop-holes will continue, regardless of who is president or who senator.
it does not matter how many ammendments you make to the constitution, you just will have everyone comming up with new ways to abuse them to their advantage.
exactly in the same way religious institutions world-wide abuse to their advantage books like the Bible and Koran, etc... only difference with politics, is that they do not promise salvation from the divine, but they themselves offer their Selves as prophets and messiahs.
much peace
"Ron Paul: College should refund any students taught the Constitution by Obama"
Earlier this month, President Obama addressed the media, as well as guests at a number of his campaign fundraisers, on the importance of the Supreme Court backing his health care legislation. The President even went so far in his speeches as to imply that to rule against his Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act would be to perform an unconstitutional act in accordance with the powers vested in that body from the Constitution.
On April 16th, Congressman and Presidential candidate Ron Paul rebutted this argument and plea by the Executive Branch, and even went so far as to say that the President's understanding of the Constitution is so out of touch that perhaps he should give his former students a refund for failed academia when he taught Constitutional law as a professor in at the University of Chicago.
Last week President Obama made some rather shocking comments at a press conference regarding the Supreme Court's deliberation on the constitutionality of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, or Obamacare. His comments belie a grasp of constitutional concepts so lacking that perhaps the University of Chicago Law School should offer a refund to any students "taught" constitutional law by then-Professor Obama!
He said, "Ultimately, I'm confident that the Supreme Court will not take what would be an unprecedented, extraordinary step of overturning a law that was passed by a strong majority of a democratically elected Congress." It almost sounds as if he believes the test of constitutionally is whether a majority approves of the bill, as opposed to whether the legislation lies within one of the express powers of the federal government. In fact, the very design of the Constitution, with power split amongst two branches of the legislature which write the laws, an executive who administers the laws, and an independent judiciary which resolves disputes regarding meaning of the laws, was designed to thwart popular will and preserve liberty. - paul.house.gov
http://www.examiner.com/finance-exa...titution-by-obama?CID=examiner_alerts_article
Earlier this month, President Obama addressed the media, as well as guests at a number of his campaign fundraisers, on the importance of the Supreme Court backing his health care legislation. The President even went so far in his speeches as to imply that to rule against his Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act would be to perform an unconstitutional act in accordance with the powers vested in that body from the Constitution.
On April 16th, Congressman and Presidential candidate Ron Paul rebutted this argument and plea by the Executive Branch, and even went so far as to say that the President's understanding of the Constitution is so out of touch that perhaps he should give his former students a refund for failed academia when he taught Constitutional law as a professor in at the University of Chicago.
Last week President Obama made some rather shocking comments at a press conference regarding the Supreme Court's deliberation on the constitutionality of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, or Obamacare. His comments belie a grasp of constitutional concepts so lacking that perhaps the University of Chicago Law School should offer a refund to any students "taught" constitutional law by then-Professor Obama!
He said, "Ultimately, I'm confident that the Supreme Court will not take what would be an unprecedented, extraordinary step of overturning a law that was passed by a strong majority of a democratically elected Congress." It almost sounds as if he believes the test of constitutionally is whether a majority approves of the bill, as opposed to whether the legislation lies within one of the express powers of the federal government. In fact, the very design of the Constitution, with power split amongst two branches of the legislature which write the laws, an executive who administers the laws, and an independent judiciary which resolves disputes regarding meaning of the laws, was designed to thwart popular will and preserve liberty. - paul.house.gov
http://www.examiner.com/finance-exa...titution-by-obama?CID=examiner_alerts_article
The federal reserve banks were created in 1913 against the advice of the founding fathers.
"If the American people ever allow private banks
to control the issue of their money,
first by inflation and then by deflation,
the banks and corporations that will
grow up around them (around the banks),
will deprive the people of their property
until their children will wake up homeless
on the continent their fathers conquered."
Thomas Jefferson
this is an excellent and profound point. You are thinking with a larger more universal spectrum. I am glad we are getting on the same page. I think shrinking the government back down is just a start. Education is the real key in my opinion. Some how we need to get every person on the planet educated in math, science, art and literature at a master's level or higher. Then only when you have everyone intelligent and rational can global issues really be solved. When everyone can see that war is a horrible idea, not matter what.
What is that shift though? Not communism, or feudalism. not gonna happen for me. I personally think control over people is wrong. when a centralized government controls the resources of the land they control the people.
People need to almost evolve a half step to do this. They have to get past ego, which drives violence. Even the nicest people succumb to ego some times. it is a human folly. like greed, and envy, but worse because it manifests in the physical for of hurt.
I suggest everybody do mushrooms with there 5 closest friends and read existentialist philosophy. I basically came to the conclusion that Buddhism is correct weather we like it or not because energy never vanishes it just transfers form. this is proven in science. One way or another you will be part of life again eventually after death. The entire universe is based on this balance.
Hello Hash,
even if we were to word the above paragraph excluding the feds, it would still work that way because it is the model out-lined where?
yes, the constitution
the frame, the map, of how the 'powers' are supposed to work. the origin of bureaucracy.
The constitution created bureaucracy?
Really, the fact you say that shows just how ignorant you are on this subject.
What the fuck are you talking about, I don't believe you've even read the constitution.
Lol, you really are clueless the constitution limits a big gov, or was supposed to. It delegates limited powers to the fed.
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I call bs. If there are so many itsnot even funny then it should be easy to name one. Oh what's that you never read the constitution?
Enough about a "paradigm shift" unless you care to elaborate that isn't much of a solution, what if that shift is towards global tyranny?
Not if we held them to the law.
I guess sometimes you end up with tyranny when you worship the wrong idols.
I think you were missing bom's point. I think he is saying to truly preserve freedom, liberty, and peace then humans need to shift the way they think on a global scale. they need to think at a higher level beyond follies, like greed and power. We need to realize that we should be good to other humans just for the sake being good to other humans. If you have the free choice, why ever chose to be bad to them. If all people could think on that level then there would be no need for bureaucracy. With out this shift in thought, freedom and liberty can never be preserved forever, and we will continue to go in cycles, or circles. The universe works in cycles but it is not conscious at our level. Maybe lower maybe higher; but Einstein, who was on human level said,
"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."
Albert Einstein
"We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them."
Albert Einstein
"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a touch of genius, and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction."
Albert Einstein
we need to realize you only need so much and at a certain point my personal excess is robbing other humans of needed resources. The planet is only so large and resources are finite. Capitalism would have never turned to corporatism if people knew when to stop. It is like money is their heroin.
"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."
Albert Einstein
"We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them."
Albert Einstein
"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a touch of genius, and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction."
Albert Einstein
we need to realize you only need so much and at a certain point my personal excess is robbing other humans of needed resources. The planet is only so large and resources are finite. Capitalism would have never turned to corporatism if people knew when to stop. It is like money is their heroin.
""Ron Paul: College should refund any students taught the Constitution by Obama"~~Bentom187 I needed that today!! Lol.. That is soooo truth full..And THANK YOU for posting about pelosi's seat!! That needs to be the word spread far & wide right there! I will do my best!! Thank you again sir! Great posts today, everyone..Thank You all! monkey5
like you, i like the thought of anarchy, but i know that anarchy leads to tyranny, so law is very important.
sadly humans are imperfect creatures, and talking about "paradigm shifts" in which all humans elevate above "animal status" is nothing more than dreaming(unless your a fervent believer in a religion)...
i dont disagree that if people put aside egos we would live in a much better world. i think people need to act more out of love for all than hate for any.
i think the quote in my sig from Ghandi acknowledges the cyclical nature of our universe....
from what i can tell
tyranny->bloody civil uprising/revolution->tyrants killed->brief freedom->citizens lose the "eternal vigilance" freedom requires->tyrants slowly rise to power
wash rinse repeat...
LOL!
Benotm187....That video and that guy winning the Wounded Warriors money is and his message was great. I am telling you this much, him winning that had a higher power involved, IMHO.
I will read your post later as I have a Church league softball game to go to. I hope I don't blow out my hamstring again. I'll stretch this time, I know that much.
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good luck.
heres some shaolin qi gong (chi gong) warm ups,for this game or others.
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=189843&page=3
heres some shaolin qi gong (chi gong) warm ups,for this game or others.
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=189843&page=3
Yup I pretty much view us humans as primates that think we are special.
watch this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a15KgyXBX24
Hello Hash,
Even I'd say that to get to the point that you describe is pretty hard; imo, even a much more simpler 'shift' could accomplish many great things.
if we paid attention to Bentom's post on Obama and the Constitution, and if we claim like dag and whodare, to be so well versed in the subject, we'd know this sort of sophist interpretations of the constitution are the bread of each day; like I said before, the abuse of a document that somehow has became more important than reason and goodness itself.
if you convince enough people that X idea is constitutionally backed through sophism, you'll be able to abuse rather than use the constitution.
why do we even set ourselves up like this by placing the constitution as the supreme point of reference for modern politics?
take Israel for example, which is light-years ahead in terms of dealing with these issues. there's no constitution, so no document to abuse by basing yourself on imaginary lawful argument. if what you present is not good, you won't have a constitution to interpret to your advantage and trick everyone into some nonsense.
debate freely, without limitations, and let goodness be the guiding factor. to do this however, we still have the problem of knowing what really is this 'goodness' we are talking about.
I also used to think that Anarchism was the best option, no Arches (ruling factor), so each one should become his/her own arches... but then I grew up and got pretty familiar with human nature, and saw it pretty much impossible to do.
now I tend more towards Monarchy, you'd think I'm crazy, but think about it, you cannot go smaller in terms of government with a Monarchy, and if you get a good king, things will flow smoothly.
you can even see kings being praised by the Buddha in Buddhist Suttas/Sutras, for handling lightly and wisely their 'domains'.
peace!
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