Ron Paul 2012!!! Your thoughts on who we should pick for our "Cause"?

[SacredBreh]

whodare..... perpetual war!

whodare..... perpetual war!

It is class warefare too. The extraction process has been refined to the point that the "status quo" is maintained.

It has been quoted so much it is almost a qliche' but George Orwell's book 1984 describes it in minute detail.

War is a way of shattering to pieces, or pouring into the stratosphere, or sinking in the depths of the sea, materials which might otherwise be used to make the masses too comfortable, and hence, in the long run, too intelligent.

Once you have billions of dollars why would you want trillions?

The Party seeks power entirely for its own sake. We are not interested in the good of others; we are interested solely in power. Not wealth or luxury or long life or happiness: only power, pure power. What pure power means you will understand presently. We are different from all the oligarchies of the past, in that we know what we are doing. All the others, even those who resembled ourselves, were cowards and hypocrites. The German Nazis and the Russian Communists came very close to us in their methods, but they never had the courage to recognize their own motives. They pretended, perhaps they even believed, that they had seized power unwillingly and for a limited time, and that just round the corner there lay a paradise where human beings would be free and equal. We are not like that. We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means; it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power.

GOP debates when War is the topic:

"A hideous ecstasy of fear and vindictiveness, a desire to kill, to torture, to smash faces in with a sledge hammer, seemed to flow through the whole group of people like an electric current, turning one even against one's will into a grimacing, screaming lunatic. And yet the rage that one felt was an abstract, undirected emotion which could be switched from one object to another like the flame of a blowlamp."

Peace

 

[T_B_M]

This made me very sad that the GOP establishment has thrown out democracy. Apparently the establishment thinks they know whats best for the whole party. Time to start a new party I think, one not full of corrupt assholes.

http://dougwead.wordpress.com/2012/04/01/romney-gets-nasty-in-nevada-but-ron-paul-prevails/

Romney gets nasty in Nevada but Ron Paul prevails

For Ron Paul supporters there is good news coming out of Nevada but the price paid to win these victories has been brutal. Here goes. A report from people in the trenches.
In Carson City, the vast numbers of Ron Paul supporters made no difference. The chair ignored them. The Carson City Caucus was so ugly that the insider, GOP, Romney establishment itself splintered under the pressure. More than one eyewitness compared it to rape.
This from a GOP insider who has been used in the past as a Sergeant of Arms. ”It was disgusting. The whole atmosphere was negative. The leaders were angry and arrogant. One fellow had a legitimate question about procedures and was shouted down by the chair. He was then escorted out by the Sgt at Arms to be talked to. This question was answered with one sentence later, during the proceedings!”
Here are some observations from Tom Mangone, a businessman.
“One young man stood in the middle of the group of the candidates he supported. He was very calmly stating that we all came here to become delegates to represent our county. He stood his ground in a polite way to become a delegate. The gal who was ‘running’ our group condescendingly said, ‘Do you want me to call the Sergeant of Arms?’ I was proud of this young man, he calmly responded, ‘For what, wanting to participate?’ I later found out he was on the Nevada State Debate Team.
” A woman, who was pregnant and ready to give birth at any moment, participated in her precinct meeting and became a delegate to the county convention. However, I do not believe she got the opportunity to become a delegate to state, based solely on the candidate she supports.
“But, a man, from my own precinct, who did not participate in the process and did not attend his precinct meeting, showed up only at the county convention. He stated that he could not even attend the state convention, but he became a delegate because of his candidate of choice. This took a spot from someone that wanted to represent Carson City and would have been at the state convention to do so.”
Jennifer Kruger, a professional businesswoman, wrote a critique of the event, point by point, that will break your heart. I am trying to get permission to pass it on.
Another observer sent me this in an email: “What sickens me is the fact that most, if not all of those thirty and younger were Ron Paul supporters and they saw just what the good ol Boys and their of ladies had done to them and see how America works now at least in Carson City.
“I am sick of the old country club set, making their decisions behind their luxury doors, establishing ‘rules and techniques’ that enable them to have it ‘their way or the highway’ as declared by them from the podium.
“This country needs the young people and they were raped at the Carson City GOP Convention and it was sad to watch helplessly!”
Concludes Mangone: “You read about these kinds of events happening elsewhere, not thinking that it could happen here. I left wondering if we were still in America. It seems that while attending an event such as this you would think we would all be on the same team. And even though the front table suggested that we were, they insisted we get divided in four separate groups. I counted on these people to do the ‘right thing’ and I was sadly mistaken.
“I guess I should feel lucky because in other countries if you question how the voting process is ran or decline to share who you voted for, you wind up in jail or a bullet is put in your head. Sadly, this country is heading towards that mentality. Trust is now completely gone for the Carson County Republican Party.
“I saw the faces of several individual voters, (for most this was their first convention experience), and there was disbelief from all arenas. Many could not believe the Republican leaders did this and a few stated that they were no longer interested in politics. More and more of these types of events are happening across the country and it is driving a wedge right through the Republican Party. Many Republican voters have been lost. With the polls showing such a close race this type of behavior is gift wrapping Obama another four years in office.”
But Carson City corruption aside, statewide, Ron Paul is prevailing. In Henderson, Nevada he swept all state delegates from Nye County and won a strong majority of state delegates from Douglas County.
Nye County Republican Party leadership had attempted to fill empty precinct delegate slots with people who failed to be elected or even participate in the February 4th caucus precinct meetings. Ron Paul supporters worked tirelessly to keep the convention running by Republican Party rules. After a tiring circle of threats from the chair to shut down the proceedings unless attendees turned a blind eye to the cheating, Paul supporters elected a chair determined to conduct the proceedings in a fair manner.
With this blow was dealt to the current Nye County Republican Party leadership, they all departed – forfeiting any intention to represent or lead their county to the state convention. The end result in Nye County was a fair, compliant election of a slate of delegates and alternate delegates to the state convention, all backing Dr. Paul.
Farther west in Douglas County, Ron Paul supporters locked down more than half of the 108 state delegates and many alternate delegate positions.
Reflecting on the powerful impact the Paul conservative movement is having in Nevada, Ron Paul 2012 Nevada State Chairman Carl Bunce said, “Supporters of Dr. Paul are reshaping Republican politics in Nevada. They have the stamina and determination to bring the party back to its limited government roots, county by county.”
The Nye and Douglas successes add to a decisive victory in Clark County, the populous county encompassing Las Vegas. In Clark, Paul secured approximately 60 percent of the delegates heading to the state convention, and won a supermajority of the Clark County Republican Executive Board.
Progress and momentum such as in this is hardly limited to Nevada. It is happening in Washington, Missouri, Iowa and other states. There are setbacks. In North Dakota, where on Super Tuesday Rick Santorum won and Ron Paul came in second, the state convention was hijacked by Mitt Romney lawyers. Romney, who came in third place in the Super Tuesday voting, nevertheless took 60% of the delegates there, even though outnumbered at the convention.
Says Jesse Benton, Ron Paul Campaign Chairman, of the battles now raging at state conventions, “Beltway insiders might dismiss it, some in the media may choose to overlook it, and establishment party hacks will at times cheat, but nothing can stop the Ron Paul-influenced reawakening of the conservative movement in America. Voters are smarter than the representation they’re getting and the empty rhetoric of fake conservatives and serial hypocrites.”

 

[dagnabit]

if we had voted Dr. Paul in 4 years ago oaksterdam and 888 turk would not have gotten their doors kicked in by the feds today....

what argument do the status quo supporters have again? ohhh yeah some stupid shit about newsletters...

meanwhile your savior wants you jailed!

 

[greenmatter]

we needed RP 50 years ago .......

IMHO the last president that was "worth his sand" was Ike. since then it has just been one politician (read: backroom dealing spineless grinning gasbag) after another. some better, some worse, but a gaggle of idiots in general

 

[whodare]

http://www.bohemiantravelers.com/2012/03/ron-paul-is-respected-around-world.html?utm_source=BP_recent&utm-medium=gadget&utm_campaign=bp_recent

Ron Paul is respected around the world
Posted by Bohemian on 7:42 AM // 9 comments


It’s not everyday that you can have an intelligent discussion about American politics with an Australian, a Canadian, and an Austrian.

We find ourselves in a quaint guesthouse in Penang, Malaysia four months in to our world travels. Although the area is home to many expat travelers and tourists alike with high-rise condotels, beach resorts and even a Hard Rock café, it’s certainly not the type of place you’d expect to find people who care about U.S. politics.

The lone traveler that is sharing the guesthouse with us is a retired backpacker from Austria. Upon first meeting him, I asked if he spoke English. He responded “a little bit,” which is the typical response from fellow travelers whose first language is clearly not English. Yet after a minute or two of discussion, it’s obvious they all speak much more than just a “little bit”. In fact, most of them should be labeled fluent even though their confidence is lacking.



After making small talk, we moved on to larger subjects like the state of the world, the wars, the euro situation and, finally, the United States. He revealed that he was a big country music fan and has visited the States a half-a-dozen times to go to festivals. His handlebar mustache suddenly made more sense.

So he wasn’t completely unfamiliar with America. Upon reflecting on the challenges facing America, he asked if I thought any of the current presidential candidates could make a difference.*I told him there’s only one guy who’s even discussing the real issues like the monetary system, restoring freedom and privacy, and ending the aggressive wars. And before I could mention his name, he blurted out “Ron Paul?”

Later that same night, I joined two fellow family travel bloggers for some beers at a local pub. One is a website developer from Australia and the other is an economist from Canada. Both have been keeping a home base in Malaysia for many months and work remotely. Again, after talking of world events, the topic turned to American politics. Each of my drinking companions displayed a surprising level of understanding of how our system works; the two political parties, the Federal Reserve, and so much more.

As some of the problems facing America became agreed upon, they leveled their focus on me to see if I thought some of the presidential candidates would make a difference, if any. Yet again, I said there’s only one guy speaking of the issues we just discussed and before I could name him, the Canadian chimed in with “Ron Paul?” And the Australian said “who, the Libertarian?”

This level of recognition not just of U.S. politics in general, but of Ron Paul was nothing short of stunning to me. Especially when earlier in the night, when I first met the Canadian, I asked what part he was from and he said “Ottawa.”

I ignorantly inquired “is that on the Eastern side?” And he chuckled a bit and said “No, it’s sort of in the middle and is actually the capital of Canada.”

To which, in self-deprecating fashion, I replied “You know us stupid Americans don’t know our own geography in North America.”

And that’s perhaps why I was surprised by their level of knowledge about America, because of my ignorance of a country that bordered where I grew up and which I even visited on two occasions.

However, Americans’ centric view of themselves may not be completely without reason. In fact, after my gratifying conversations with these travelers, I realized that America is still the big elephant in the room that everybody notices when it moves.

They may not know all of the small details about local legislation or political bickering but they notice the big moves that send ripple effects across the globe like the wars and the fact that oil trades in U.S. dollars.

And that seems to be why they know who Ron Paul is, because he’s the only one talking about bringing about peace by ending the U.S. involvement in foreign wars and the only one who seems to understand how devaluing the dollar affects every economy in the world. One thing is for certain, Ron Paul has not just gained recognition by foreigners but respect as well.

 

[bentom187]

http://austin.ynn.com/content/top_s...ege-students-experiencing-gop-primary-fatigue



The seemingly never-ending GOP presidential primary season is wearing on the youth vote in Texas.

Students with University of Texas’ Young Conservatives group say interest in the race has decreased drastically in the last month.

“I was going to wait for it to get closer until they narrow it to just one candidate versus Obama,” UT sophomore Jennifer Boling said.

The young conservatives on campus admit that interest in the GOP presidential race has dropped since many Republicans are simply thinking that Mitt Romney will be the eventual nominee.

However, Ron Paul is still igniting a portion of the youth vote at UT, Texas State and beyond.

John Ramsey founded the Liberty for All Super PAC to get out the vote for Ron Paul. He says supporters are staying engaged despite their candidate not winning a single state yet.

“We take our efforts off campus, but we also recruit students to come in volunteer, make phone calls, go door to door,” Ramsey said. “It’s a long term process and Ron Paul, our supporters, they’ll be there till the last vote is cast.”

Youth for Ron Paul, a student-run group at UT, is organizing a rally ahead of the May primary.

The chapter president says they're expecting as many as 10,000 people to attend the event May 19.

 

[itisme]

I have been busy trying to learn about Aquaponics so I have been very busy.

I have missed the thread but I appreciate all the info you guys/gals are posting.

I just come here and get all types of good info quickly without having to search much. Thanks and I will return soon and keep checking in periodically.

RON PAUL 2012. Damn what the lying MEDIA claim! WE ARE THE MAINSTREAM!


Russia warns USA of Nuclear World War 3 over Islamic Republic Of Iran
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZfiSKOt9yk&feature=related Please listen to this and it gets really serious even later in the report so please view completely.

It must be nice to have a real news station although they are telling some serious issues here.

Below is the comments from the poster of the video on Youtube.

Its not just Obama. If you remove Obama there will be an other puppet to take his place. Blame the International banks, and war profiteers like the skull and bones. They are playing the song. Obama is just dancing to the tune. NWO wants all the useless eaters to die anyways. This is what they want. War makes them happy.

I have to agree with him/her.

 

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[Plant Early]

 

[bentom187]

not from Ca.

from RP forums :
Ron Paul has 6,200 people at his first town hall in California! Another record broken!

2012 Republican Presidential candidate Ron Paul drew a remarkable 6,200-plus voters to the first of three town hall meetings he is holding in California this week, continuing his pattern of attracting large crowds of voters eager to hear his platform of constitutionally-limited government and restoring economic and civil liberties.

The 12-term Congressman from Texas’ town hall meeting took place at 7:00 p.m. PST at California State University, Chico’s Bell Memorial Student Union - Trinity Commons, located at 548 West Second Street, Chico, CA 95928.

http://exm.nr/Hk02ts

 

[trem0lo]

Awesome bentom, I was just on my way to post this.

The crowds in LA tomorrow will be huge!!

 

[SacredBreh]

bentom you truly are a Paul Bot! With all these young people out there interested, learning, and getting involved. I see change coming!

Peace

 

[SpasticGramps]

That's awesome. What I see in those pictures is the eventual collapse of the Neo-Con Republican establishment. RP may not get the nomination but he may restore pacifism to it's rightful conservative ideology.

 

[bentom187]

bentom you truly are a Paul Bot! With all these young people out there interested, learning, and getting involved. I see change coming!

Peace

thanks,its clear who has the youth vote. he always needs more deligates for the convention thats the most assured way for victory for him and our cause.

i can just imagine SB stores right here in the U.S.

 

[KnifeWrench]

gary johnson?

 

[whodare]

http://mises.org/daily/5987/PulitzerWinning-Palaver

Pulitzer-Winning Palaver
by James E. Miller on April 2, 2012
Back at the height of the financial crisis, Steven Pearlstein of the Washington Post wrote a number of contradictory columns both praising the bank bailout known as TARP while issuing a scathing criticism on how the big banks were using taxpayer funds to pay shareholders and executive bonuses rather than lend credit. According to Pearlstein, those ignorant folks wary of Uncle Sam padding the balance sheets of reckless bankers (emboldened by the housing policies of the federal government, its mortgage-based GSEs, and the cheap money of Alan Greenspan's Federal Reserve) virtually free of charge just didn't "get it."

Apparently those who regard the virtue of private gains and losses as a fundamental necessity for markets to work efficiently are just too dense to comment on these matters. The world was imploding (or so we were assured by a banking class desperate to keep the party going, as well as its alumni occupying positions of authority within the Federal Reserve System and US Treasury) so there was no time for critical analysis. Taxpayers should have kept their claps shut and let their elected officials shove more squandered funds at an already-zombified banking system.

To really bolster the merit of his opinion, Pearlstein cited his own Pulitzer Prize in an online chat with Washington Post readers as proof of his superior knowledge on such a serious affair.

Nobody has been more critical of the practices of banks and Wall Street and brokers than I have, probably long before you were even focused on this issue, so I certainly don't owe you any apology on that one. If you want to check, you'll see I won a certain prize for that.

Who knew the Pulitzer Prize gave you free reign to declare any opinions contrary to yours null and void?

Recently, Pearlstein used his column to comment on Greg's Smith controversial New York Times editorial "Why I am Leaving Goldman Sachs." Smith's editorial caused quite a stir among the financial commentariat where everyone and their grandmother has weighed in on its significance and reasoning. While those knowledgeable on the mutually satisfying nature of a free economy were critical of Smith's attack of Goldman, many reveled on accusations of unfettered greed dominating the industry. Pearlstein falls in the latter camp, as he regards Smith's piece as wholly demonstrative of the evil exuberance of the infamous vampire squid.

The predictable response from Wall Street was to dismiss Smith as hopelessly hypocritical and naïve — hypocritical because he didn't resign from Goldman until after he had been passed over for promotion and after he received his 2011 bonus check, naïve for thinking that trading financial instruments with customers has ever been anything but a zero-sum game.

Such a dismissal would be more convincing, however, if it wasn't merely the latest piece of evidence of the ethical deterioration at Goldman in particular, and on Wall Street more generally.

As it happens, just as Greg Smith was reminding us of how Wall Street rips off its customers, Washington was moving to roll back regulations designed to protect investors from that kind of predation.

So begins Pearlstein's tirade on the opposition of banking regulations. The rationale for financial regulations falls back on the Marxist ideology that holds that capitalism is a system of exploitation where clueless consumers and workers fall prey to cash-rich producers. Because Joe Schmo happened to take out a loan he couldn't really afford to pay back, nanny-state bureaucrats have no other choice but to step in and protect him against his own choices. But of course no one forced Joe to take out a loan or patronize a bank; he does so on his own accord and believes himself better off in taking the money. Presuming anything else grants far too much insight to the observers who believe themselves all-knowing of any individual's unique preferences. It's sort of like the central banker who attempts to dictate the proper interest rate for millions in lieu of a rate determined solely by the time preferences and spending habits of all market actors.

If Smith's, as well as Pearlstein's, assertions were true and Goldman really was ripping off its customers en masse, then simple market forces would put it out of business fairly quickly. As John Tamny observed,

Indeed, what must be stressed here is that Goldman couldn't purposefully do badly by its clients even if it tried; the firmwide ethos of "putting clients first" the tautological mantra of any business — irrespective of sector — that wants to remain in business for the long haul. It couldn't because if it did, so great is the competition for its client list that it would soon find itself a hollow shadow of its former self.

For being a well-regarded business columnist, Pearlstein somehow misses the fact that only consumers believing themselves to be benefited by the services or goods offered by a company determine said company's success. Going off this naïve understanding, Pearlstein begins defending financial regulation.

What we also know from painful experience — from the mortgage and credit bubble, from Enron, Worldcom and the tech and telecom bubble, from the savings-and-loan crisis and the junk bond scandal and generations of penny-stock scandals — is that financial markets are incapable of self-regulation.

This would actually be a very good passage if it were just tweaked a bit to include the real cause of all the crises listed. It should read like this:

What we also know from painful experience — from the mortgage and credit bubble, from Enron, Worldcom and the tech and telecom bubble, from the savings-and-loan crisis and the junk bond scandal, and generations of penny-stock scandals — is that the Federal Reserve's low-interest-rates policies perpetuate the continuance of asset bubbles.

Pearlstein's argument would hold up if the financial industry were indeed void of any government regulation. The fact is however that for almost a century, the Federal Reserve has been in charge of regulating the industry. Prior to the Fed's inception, regulation at the state level was prevalent. Contrary to Pearlstein's belief, the financial industry in the United States hasn't operated under laissez-faire conditions in well over 150 years.

Financial markets are hotbeds of asymmetric information, when one party in a transaction knows much more about the thing being traded than the other.

Again, for an expert business columnist, Pearlstein comes off as uniformed on how markets really work. There is hardly an industry out there where the same amount of information is held by all market participants. The essence of entrepreneurship is superior forecasting skills — that is, being more knowledgeable and in tune to consumer demands than competitors. If Pearlstein is going to charge the financial industry with being unfair in the lack of evenly dispersed market information, he has to be critical of all sectors of the economy to stay consistent.

Financial markets are magnets for moral hazard, where people can take risks knowing that they won't have to suffer the full consequences of those decisions because of government bailouts or insurance.

Thankfully Pearlstein recognizes the role of moral hazard in perpetuating risky behavior. But his recommended cure is just more of the same disease already distorting the checks on exuberance that would exist without government interference. With the existence of the Federal Reserve, the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, sanctioned fractional-reserve lending, and Congress's history of doing what it does best and throwing money at perceived emergencies, why wouldn't Wall Street overly leverage itself if its losses are expected to be socialized? Surprisingly, Pearlstein recognizes this dynamic:

And financial markets are highly conducive to herd behavior because bankers and money managers know that, no matter how disastrous their decisions turn out to be, they won't lose their jobs or their standing in the industry if they were making the same bad decisions as everyone else.

Despite all this, Pearlstein still sees further regulation as necessary to curb the excesses of Wall Street. This shortsightedness doesn't account for the role bureaucratic red tape plays in benefiting large firms such as Goldman Sachs by making it more costly for small startups to establish themselves and pose as any sort of competition. Pearlstein asks, "Have you ever met an executive who said he liked regulation?" Well, Steve, considering the Federal Reserve was the product of scheming bankers, one of the largest private health-insurance-industry lobbying firms (AHIP) endorsed Obamacare, and the CEO of Walmart, the country's biggest employer, called for raising the federal minimum wage just a few years ago, then yes, I have heard of the heads of big business actually liking regulation.

The real question to ask is if it's really that inconceivable that big business is more than willing to get behind regulation if it poses a financial burden on its competitors. Considering that the nature of the state is to grow in size and authority as it seizes ever more control over the private lives of its citizenry, any savvy businessman would see the advantage of co-opting such power for his own benefit.

Pearlstein ends by digging into the JOBS (Jumpstart Our Business Startups Act) bill that recently passed the House of Representatives. This bill would exempt any firm with less than $1 billion in sales from many of the reforms enacted after Enron or the latest financial scandals.

Under the House-passed bill, these "small" companies would be exempted from rules requiring that they disclose the compensation of executives and other insiders or that they give shareholders the right to approve such compensation. They also would be exempted from having to hire outside auditors to assure that they have internal controls sufficient to prevent and uncover investor fraud.

Again, Pearlstein invokes the image of clueless investors incapable of making sound decisions on whom they place their money with. From a private-property-rights perspective, it should always be up to the owners of a company to disclose whatever relevant information they see fit. The same applies to government decrees forcing the hiring of outside auditors. Certainly these measures would improve the image of a company seeking private investment. But investors who choose to devote their scarce capital to a business venture do so because they anticipate that they will derive some benefit from it — either a monetary profit or some other desired end. If a small startup business lacks compensation disclosure or outside auditing, that is a risk any voluntary investor is free to take.

Despite all of his accolades, Steve Pearlstein fails to understand how a free market uninhibited by government regulation would function. He pokes fun at the laissez-faire views of those who don't see markets as zero-sum contests between exploiters and saps, while he also accuses firms like Goldman Sachs of conning their clients who voluntarily invest their own money and bear the inherent risk that exists when doing business with such firms. With opinions like this still permeating the editorial sections of the nation's most-read newspapers, it shouldn't come as a surprise that much of the public still believes them.

 

[bentom187]

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[MadBuddhaAbuser]

My prez

http://www.ronpaul2012.com/2012/04/04/ron-paul-named-‘taxpayer-friend’-for-2011

well I couldnt copy a png, but he won another A rating from the national taxpayers union for voting to help american taxpayers. His 15th in the 15 years they have been rating such things. In fact this year he win the top honor.

 

[itisme]

911 Best Vid Ever.avi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmbPh3u7_q0

 

[SacredBreh]

^^^^^ I have said it before.... Reality of what we know makes the so called "conspiracy theories" seem like logical bed time stories.

The facts are more scary than anything I could dream up!

Great post Itisme.

Peace