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Ron Paul 2012!!! Your thoughts on who we should pick for our "Cause"?

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MadBuddhaAbuser

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It's depressing when I'm talking with the non ic people and the.only bad thing they have to say is "yeah but he won't get elected, they dont want him."

A typical conversation goes like "oh yeah I like him, he says a lot of good stuff" or "hes a real straight shooter" or "hes the only one that makes sense" then there is always the "but he won't win" if all those people just voted with their hearts and heads instead of party color or who the front runner is, we would be having a much better news cycle.
 
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greenmatter

where would politics be without the media?


gotta pack a fresh bowl to consider that don't ya? probably more than 1
 
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BrnCow

Fuckheads just won't let RP have his day....I'm voting for him anyway...already seen his name on the list for the ballots....
 
MadBuddhaAbuser

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bentom187 said:
"Defense Department seeks new authorities for counterterrorism fight"

http://thehill.com/blogs/defcon-hil...ks-new-authorities-for-counterterrorism-fight
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A more accurate title for this article would be "us army joins war on drugs"

Defense Department seeks new authorities for counterterrorism fight By Carlo Munoz - 03/31/12 08:37 AM ET

As the Pentagon begins to wind down the war in Afghanistan, the smaller conflicts elite U.S. forces are fighting around the world are heating up.

But DoD needs more than just men and materiel to meet these challenges. It needs additional authority from Congress to do so.

"Most of the authorities that we have right now are narrowly construed to counterterrorism ... [but] I think for some countries we may need a little bit more flexibility to go in there," Michael Sheehan, assistant secretary of defense for special operations and low-intensity conflict, told lawmakers on Tuesday.

The majority of counterterrorism missions by U.S. special forces have been focused on al Qaeda and Taliban cells in Afghanistan and the Middle East region.

But growing numbers and types of threats, particularly in Africa and South America, require a new approach to U.S. counterterrorism operations, Sheehan told members of the Senate Armed Services’ subcommittee on emerging threats and capabilities.

"If we have a broader range of authorities, we can respond with more agility to each country with a different set of programs," Sheehan said. "I think that's the direction we're thinking."

Subcommittee chairwoman Sen. Kay Hagan (D-N.C.) and subpanel member Sen. Rob Portman (R-Ohio) pressed Sheehan on what exactly DoD was looking for, in terms of legislative authorities.

While not going into too much detail, Sheehan said the lines between terrorism and crime have become increasingly blurry and current U.S. statutes to address either have not kept up.

Under current federal authorities, counterterrorism is strictly a military operation conducted by DoD. Pursuing transnational criminal groups falls to law enforcement and is done by the Department of Justice.

"Some of these threats are not pure terrorism," Sheehan explained. DoD needs to be able to go after groups that straddle the line between terrorism and organized crime.

Terror groups like Boko Haram and al Shabab have begun to align themselves with al Qaeda's Africa cell, al Qaeda in the Islamic Magreb and the group's cell in Yemen.

The Yemen cell, known as al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, has become the group's most active and arguably its most dangerous.

But those groups in Africa also reportedly provide security to South and Central American cartels who move cocaine and heroin into Europe via smuggling routes in Africa.

Iranian-backed groups like Hezbollah are reportedly expanding their influence in South America, using Tehran's allies like Venezuela and Ecuador as conduits, U.S. commanders told Congress this month.

Hezbollah has also linked up with narco-traffickers in South America as a way to raise funds for operations in the Middle East and elsewhere.

"We are looking for some legislative authority ... that might be able to give us some broader authorities, legislative authorities and multiyear funding for some of the types of activities that I'd like to do in terms of building coalitions to take on these complex threats," Sheehan said.

DoD will hand over a slate of potential legislative options being drafted by Sheehan's office to lawmakers "in the weeks and months ahead," he added.

However, the Pentagon is already beginning to move ahead with its plans for both continents.

U.S. special forces have been in Uganda since October, providing support to local forces going after Ugandan warlord Joseph Kony and his Lord's Resistance Army.

Defense Secretary Leon Panetta announced in February that U.S. special forces and counterinsurgency specialists returning from Iraq and Afghanistan will be redeployed to a number of global hot spots, specifically those in Africa and South America.

The move was included in the White House's new national security strategy unveiled that month.

These small bands of special forces and COIN experts will lean upon "innovative methods" learned in Southwest Asia to support local militaries and expand American influence in those two continents, Panetta said at the time.

The U.S. military is pushing more troops into Colombia to assist in that country's war with insurgent groups and narco-traffickers, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Martin Dempsey said Friday.

U.S. forces plan to set up a number of joint task forces inside the country to train and assist the Colombian military. The Pentagon has similar task forces in the Horn of Africa, the Trans-Sahara, Southern Philippines and elsewhere around the world.

American military trainers will assist Colombian forces in their ongoing counterinsurgency against the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC), a Marxist separatist group bent on overthrowing the government in Bogota.
 
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BrnCow

Newt says he’ll give us $2.50 gas, but Ron Paul tells Jay Leno, ‘I can do it for a dime’

On The Tonight Show last night, Ron Paul discussed gas prices with Jay Leno, arguing that the real problem isn’t drilling, but instead, the decreasing value of the dollar.

In response to Newt Gingrich’s campaign claim that he would lower gas prices to $2.50 per gallon, Paul said, “I can do it for a dime.”

The Texas congressman went on to explain that an old silver dime is currently worth about $4, which would get you a gallon of gas today. He used this metaphor to explain how inflation is the real reason prices have continued to increase.

Paul confirmed that the President cannot fix gas prices right now, but argued that different policies might help. Price controls or additional drilling are not necessarily the answer, he said. Sound money and a free market, however, would take care of it.

The mostly serious interview garnered a few laughs when Paul and Leno discussed Secret Service protection, as Republican candidates recently revealed their code names. Paul said his code name, if he had one, would be “Bulldog.”

Paul doesn’t accept Secret Service protection, which he said costs tax payers thousands of dollars each day, because he sees it as a form of welfare. “I would think I should pay for my own protection,” he said.

Leno said he doubts the Texas Republican would even need the service, tossing to a clip of Ron Paul in a martial arts battle – or rather, a well-edited clip of two other expert fighters.

Paul also discussed how he can still win the election, the super secret deal he has with Mitt Romney (so secret they both don’t even know about it), his assessment of the other candidates and his views on birth control and abortion. You can see clips of the interview below.

Videos on website also discuss some of RP's views and ideas including Newt on the moon:

http://blog.chron.com/txpotomac/201...n-paul-tells-jay-leno-i-can-do-it-for-a-dime/
 
SacredBreh

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That made my week hearing some "truth" finally on a major network!

That made my week hearing some "truth" finally on a major network!

trichrider said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Z9MIiKHgXI&feature=related

Ron Paul winning most delegates.
"Oh Dear!" is the response...


Washington state gop caucus attempts 'unity slate' to circumvent Pauls popularity. Paul wins all state delegates. ???

go Paul!
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Way to go trichrider! Excellent post.

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SacredBreh

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Knocking them out of the park, Plant Early and Brown Cow!

Dr. Paul has been shrewd like a fox..... he has been planning "the long game" all along. That is why he didn't come out slinging mud like the others. He knows in the end it will come down to "specific issues" ...... let the others run as fast as they can and just be sure you are the only one that puts on the brakes at the edge of the cliff!

Each other candidate has done the dirty work for Dr. Paul and Dr. Paul's hands are still clean. Then you start nailing them to the wall with their records.... can't lose in a "Brokered Convention" or a race against Obummer.

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I love how the media thinks it is all wrapped up for Romney already. This would be great for the liberals because Obama would waste Romney.

They don't want Ron Paul on the National ticket because they know he makes too much sense and WAY more people would start to listen because he would actually be on TV and main stream media a lot more. They can't shut him out at that point.

Without getting into conspiracy bs, there is something going on with the Paul media blackout, someone does not want him to be heard. Good thing Paul has a great ground game to snatch the delegates.
 
whodare

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http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=29988

Great empires, such as the Roman and British, were extractive. The empires succeeded, because the value of the resources and wealth extracted from conquered lands exceeded the value of conquest and governance. The reason Rome did not extend its empire further east into Germany was not the military prowess of Germanic tribes but Rome’s calculation that the cost of conquest exceeded the value of extractable resources.

The Roman empire failed, because Romans exhausted manpower and resources in civil wars fighting amongst themselves for power. The British empire failed, because the British exhausted themselves fighting Germany in two world wars.

In his book, The Rule of Empires (2010), Timothy H. Parsons replaces the myth of the civilizing empire with the truth of the extractive empire. He describes the successes of the Romans, the Umayyad Caliphate, the Spanish in Peru, Napoleon in Italy, and the British in India and Kenya in extracting resources. To lower the cost of governing Kenya, the British instigated tribal consciousness and invented tribal customs that worked to British advantage.

Parsons does not examine the American empire, but in his introduction to the book he wonders whether America’s empire is really an empire as the Americans don’t seem to get any extractive benefits from it. After eight years of war and attempted occupation of Iraq, all Washington has for its efforts is several trillion dollars of additional debt and no Iraqi oil. After ten years of trillion dollar struggle against the Taliban in Afghanistan, Washington has nothing to show for it except possibly some part of the drug trade that can be used to fund covert CIA operations.

America’s wars are very expensive. Bush and Obama have doubled the national debt, and the American people have no benefits from it. No riches, no bread and circuses flow to Americans from Washington’s wars. So what is it all about?

The answer is that Washington’s empire extracts resources from the American people for the benefit of the few powerful interest groups that rule America. The military-security complex, Wall Street, agri-business and the Israel Lobby use the government to extract resources from Americans to serve their profits and power. The US Constitution has been extracted in the interests of the Security State, and Americans’ incomes have been redirected to the pockets of the 1 percent. That is how the American Empire functions.

The New Empire is different. It happens without achieving conquest. The American military did not conquer Iraq and has been forced out politically by the puppet government that Washington established. There is no victory in Afghanistan, and after a decade the American military does not control the country.

In the New Empire success at war no longer matters. The extraction takes place by being at war. Huge sums of American taxpayers’ money have flowed into the American armaments industries and huge amounts of power into Homeland Security. The American empire works by stripping Americans of wealth and liberty.

This is why the wars cannot end, or if one does end another starts. Remember when Obama came into office and was asked what the US mission was in Afghanistan? He replied that he did not know what the mission was and that the mission needed to be defined.

Obama never defined the mission. He renewed the Afghan war without telling us its purpose. Obama cannot tell Americans that the purpose of the war is to build the power and profit of the military/security complex at the expense of American citizens.

This truth doesn’t mean that the objects of American military aggression have escaped without cost. Large numbers of Muslims have been bombed and murdered and their economies and infrastructure ruined, but not in order to extract resources from them.

It is ironic that under the New Empire the citizens of the empire are extracted of their wealth and liberty in order to extract lives from the targeted foreign populations. Just like the bombed and murdered Muslims, the American people are victims of the American empire.
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greenmatter

i may have to actually turn the TV on if he does get the nomination.

i really want to see romney and santoum cry in public ..... and i hope RP just walks over to gingrich, bitch slaps him and throws him off the stage
 
bentom187

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2012 Republican Presidential candidate Ron Paul will visit California this week for a three-day campaign tour. The 12-term Congressman from Texas will visit the Golden State from Tuesday, April 3rdto Thursday, the 5th for a series of town hall meetings, media appearances, and private fundraisers.
http://www.examiner.com/elections-2...days-campaigning-california-with-ticket-links
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interview with face the nation a good interview from yesterday.

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