Ron Paul 2012!!! Your thoughts on who we should pick for our "Cause"?

[itisme]

More funny stuff.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ne...ul_threatens_to_disrupt_wash__gop_caucus.html

Ron Paul threatens to disrupt Wash. GOP caucus
The Associated Press
Ron Paul's presidential campaign on Wednesday threatened to fight the seating of some Washington delegates to the Republican National Convention, saying there is a lack of transparency in how party officials from the state's largest county are chosen.



Paul's claim came three days before Washington's Republican caucuses on Saturday.

Kirby Wilbur, the state GOP Party chairman, said Paul's accusations are "baseless." A lawyer for Paul's campaign sent a letter to Wilbur and Lori Sotelo, head of the King County Republican Party. The Paul campaign said the King County GOP violated party rules by not revealing the names of certain party officials, known as precinct committee officers, who will take part in the caucuses.

"Their concern is that they appointed all these last-minute, anti-Ron Paul PCOs, but there's no proof," Wilbur told The Associated Press.

In the letter to Wilbur and Sotelo, Paul's campaign said precinct committee delegates who are automatic delegates to the state convention must have been appointed by Dec. 14, 2011. Paul's campaign has asked for a list of these officials. Wilbur said Sotelo will make them available to the Paul campaign, as well as to the other GOP presidential campaigns, on Friday. Other counties in the state have already given their lists of officials to the Paul campaign, Wilbur said.

The Paul campaign said it will contact the King County party officials in question, and if it determines they were offered the jobs after Dec. 14 it will fight to keep them from taking part in the state caucuses, as well as the national convention.

Wilbur said state party lawyers have assured him that King County Republicans have done nothing wrong. He said the Dec. 14, cutoff is there to prevent county party chairmen from "stacking the deck" for individual candidates.

"When they examine the record, they'll find that they haven't done that," Wilbur said.

Washington has 43 delegates. But the caucus vote is done as a straw poll and does not allocate the 40 delegates that will be elected in June. Delegates chosen at the precinct level will go to county conventions, which will be used to choose delegates for the state convention. Only once delegates are elected at the end of the convention, on June 2, will they be officially allocated to candidates.

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Associated Press writer Rachel La Corte contributed to this report

 

[ShroomDr]

Who are the cowards who keep giving me not helpfuls, yet refuse to say how im WRONG?

Many of you live in a fantasy world.

Please explain how im wrong, and an alternative way that Dr Paul could get elected? (because there are none).

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

If Ron Paul were to die tomorrow, I'd still write him in. There are NO circumstances where I'd vote for anyone else. This attitude was developed after I realized how much the media was trying to dictate my choice. It's my protest, "fuck you" vote, and it won't ever change.

Exactly.

Who are the cowards who keep giving me not helpfuls, yet refuse to say how im WRONG?

Many of you live in a fantasy world.

Please explain how im wrong, and an alternative way that Dr Paul could get elected? (because there are none).

You are currently being influenced by propaganda from both major parties. If everyone that liked paul was smart enough to ignore that propaganda than Paul would win the primary in November.

Ron Paul was second in delegates last time I checked, and in some polls involving democrats only he polled better than Obama.

 

[bentom187]

this is a funny skit,but the part they didnt report was why these people asked for secret service details.
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[ShroomDr]

You are currently being influenced by propaganda from both major parties.

HOW?

Its one thing to say that to a random person in this thread, its quite another to say it to me.

How am I brainwashed? Id say i have a much better grasp of history and politics than anyone else has demonstrated in this thread.

Hell, MSNBC nor Fox will lay down how Dr Paul could actually get elected. Im the only one to do in in the 4000+ posts in this thread.

Im not brainwashed.

I take a Promethean viewpoint. Any vote that prevents Romney (or another) from reaching a majority of delegates is a GOOD vote for Dr Paul, even if the vote is not directly for Dr Paul. Anyone who does not understand the previous sentence, does not understand how our political system works, and is CERTAINLY under the influence of brainwashing propaganda or blissful ignorance.




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[SpasticGramps]

Thats my point.

Right, but I'm still voting for Paul in my primary as a matter of conscience. I could not bring myself to vote for the other two.

I'm not voting for Goldman Sachs anymore.

 

[mrcreosote]

Hate to say it, but I think even if they screwed up completely and Ron Paul even won the general election...
He would still never become a sitting President.
A guy who wants to end the Fed banking cartel, or even audit what they have done will never sit in the Oval Office.
Period.
You may fill in the cause how this would be the case. Even here, I will not mention why I think it will never happen.

By now it should be fairly evident that elections don't mean very much to the guys who handle the money as long as it's one of their own.
I'm pretty sure Dr. Paul does not fit that category but like Gramps says, it's a matter of principle.

Real change in the way Govt. works has to reach a critical mass to achieve a tipping point and I do think the good Dr. is a catalyst for that change to occur.
A lot of people are waking up to the fact that there is a serious problem with the status quo that goes far beyond who sits in that chair at 1600.

 

[ShroomDr]

Only a handful of his polices would get enacted. The President may try to set the agenda, but ultimately it is the the legislatures that write the laws.

He could re-schedule MJ and stop declaring wars. (Two Executive Branch functions, and two things that should be looked at, that neither party want to address, and why he needs to run 3rd party.)

There is not a lot more he will get done, as his agenda will be blocked from both parties. There will be more gridlock than the last 3 presidents combined.



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[bentom187]

this isnt likley to happen,ron paul getting 50+1 in the first vote at the RNC wich would be awsome.

if you are a deligate it would help for the first vote,but for the second vote you have to go back to ron paul.

i guess its up to you,but i beleive all RP deligates pay for their own way to the RNC,there is a danger of one of the others getting the 50+1 vote for the first vote,and you would have helped the establishment in that situation.

but if the deligates are solid for the first vote and the second ,its just as good ,no one leaves ,and the likley chances of us just gaining to our deligate count improves.

 

[bentom187]

RP LIVE in spokane

http://www.wivb.com/generic/video/cbs_news_video

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

Who gives a shit 'bout rand?

Who gives a shit about you?

He is not his father.

And you're not Einstein

They actually differ on policies and rand would not get alt of Ron voters...

Nobody addressed policy differences so naturally you pretend otherwise.

I thought you were a rush fan BTW?

I thought you were a homophobe.

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

If Ron Paul were to die tomorrow, I'd still write him in. There are NO circumstances where I'd vote for anyone else. This attitude was developed after I realized how much the media was trying to dictate my choice. It's my protest, "fuck you" vote, and it won't ever change.

I hope there's a provision that allows your write-in as valid. Otherwise, Mrs. Paul may declare election fraud and folks who don't understand or don't care about local election laws will believe her.

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

^I imagine she would be flattered by the gesture of honoring her Husband.

 

[dagnabit]

Who gives a shit about you?

And you're not Einstein

is that an antisemitic slur?

Nobody addressed policy differences so naturally you pretend otherwise.

never said you did..
but what other reason to consider someone's political future if not their policies..
you see unlike some EVERYTHING comes down to policies with me.
i am not into race or party...

I thought you were a homophobe.

why would you think that?
because you don't know what haruspicy is?
just because you don't know what something is does not make is defamation,it just means you should get out more.

you never did apologize for accusing me of bigotry when you were plainly proven wrong.
now i see why. you plan to keep trying to make your slander stick.
i guess when your idiotic arguments get too weak you need to have a fall back

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

I thought you were a homophobe.

I thought you were a baked good that likes to boogie. that also goes well with gravy and chicken...... and the hustle.

lol

 

[SpasticGramps]

He can do better.

What about the Kennedy Half Dollar. That's worth $12.57 these days. Another 2,514% increase in value.

Here is a chart of the Dow Priced in Gold since 1900. Pretty shitty real return.

Here's the Dow priced in USD. Fantastic nominal returns!

Yes nominal returns are better in the stock market, but given currency debasement real returns are better in metals. DOW 20,000 doesn't mean anything if the currency it's priced in is garbage. Zimbabwe use to have the greatest nominal returns for a stock market too. As long as we have a debt crisis and are monetizing deficits the uptrend in metals will continue.

So yes, nominally Johnny could do better, but in real terms he cannot. I like real over nominal. I like nominal returns too, but real returns are better.

Interesting what happened after 1971. My perception is the market value of gold isn't really going up, it's the market value of the USD that's tanking and will continue to do so because we are defaulting via the printing press.

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

^I imagine she would be flattered by the gesture of honoring her Husband.

I can understand that. I can understand being flattered even if the vote doesn't count. Mrs. Paul has said that Iowa ferked Ron because they didn't count his write-ins.

The question is, do the Iowa caucuses allow write-ins?

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

What about the Kennedy Half Dollar. That's worth $12.57 these days. Another 2,514% increase in value.

Here is a chart of the Dow Priced in Gold since 1900. Pretty shitty real return.

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Here's the Dow priced in USD. Fantastic nominal returns!

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Yes nominal returns are better in the stock market, but given currency debasement real returns are better in metals. DOW 20,000 doesn't mean anything if the currency it's priced in is garbage. Zimbabwe use to have the greatest nominal returns for a stock market too. As long as we have a debt crisis and are monetizing deficits the uptrend in metals will continue.

So yes, nominally Johnny could do better, but in real terms he cannot. I like real over nominal. I like nominal returns too, but real returns are better.

Interesting what happened after 1971. My perception is the market value of gold isn't really going up, it's the market value of the USD that's tanking and will continue to do so because we are defaulting via the printing press.

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How many Kennedy half dollars does Ray have to collect before his retirement is secure?

 

[SpasticGramps]

How many Kennedy half dollars does Ray have to collect before his retirement is secure?

You're dancing around the real issue. If Ray put $X in physical metals his real return would have been more had he put $X in equities. His retirement would be secure from Bernanke's printing press.

Poor Johnny who is only holding paper is suffering from negative real interest rates and gets to watch his retirement slowly disappear as everything around him becomes increasingly expensive. Especially fixed income people. Those are the real victims of Bernanke. They are getting destroyed.

That's not to say I don't like equities. Nominal returns are fantastic when governments are monetizing everything. Plus, it's a much more liquid market. But if paper is all Ray has he's going to be a loser.

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

Might be interesting to dance around the list of Fortune 500 individuals who plan to vote for Ron Paul or own portfolios that mirror Ron Paul's investment strategy.