Ron Paul 2012!!! Your thoughts on who we should pick for our "Cause"?

[dagnabit]

Trying hard to get it closed aint ya DB?
Luckily everyone can see ya were wrong.
<3 u little buddy.
Valiant effort.

 

[whodare]

If DB trolled any harder he'd have fish and game up his ass

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

Trying hard to get it closed aint ya DB?
Luckily everyone can see ya were wrong.
<3 u little buddy.
Valiant effort.

An objective view of Ron Paul is not engaging you personally. Buzz off.

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

If DB trolled any harder he'd have fish and game up his ass

I think you're getting a little long in the tooth that Ron Paul ain't the shiny object he waves at ya. None of my objective opinions of Ron Paul disparage you and I don't substitute pathetic whining AT you.

 

[whodare]

Objective lol

More like biased and ignorant

 

[dagnabit]

An objective view of Ron Paul is not engaging you personally. Buzz off.

Never said it was..
The old thread garbage/slander is objective Ron Paul whatever?

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

Objective lol

More like biased and ignorant

Less an example, you have a slogan. Try some application on that sound bite. If bias and ignorance is considering as much information as possible, (not just the bell) how would you rate selective reasoning on the scale of bias and ignorance?

 

[ShroomDr]

http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-bl...gn/212427-mitt-romneys-secret-weapon-ron-paul

Mitt Romney's secret weapon: Ron Paul
By Brent Budowsky - 02/24/12 10:10 AM ET

Ron Paul's donors should consider asking for a refund and making donations to Mitt Romney. Paul now has an extreme truth-in-advertising problem. Money donated to Paul is not promoting the cause Paul allegedly supports. It is promoting the Romney campaign. Ron Paul should stop the holier-than-thou libertarian shtick and tell the truth to his supporters about why he is doing everything he can to make Romney the nominee. I am calling out Ron Paul. His campaign looks increasingly phony.

Fact: When Rick Perry was the greatest threat to Romney, Paul launched personal attacks against Perry, which only helped Romney.

Fact: When Newt Gingrich was the great threat to Romney, Paul launched personal attacks against Gingrich, which only helped Romney.

Fact: Now that Rick Santorum is the great threat to Romney, Paul launches personal attacks against Santorum, which only helps Romney.

Fact: Romney is the one other candidate Paul has spoken highly of, including, shamefully, endorsing Romney's vulture layoffs, which even Perry had the integrity to criticize.

I never thought I would say this, but Perry looks like a far more authentic conservative while Paul looks increasingly like a phony libertarian. No legitimate libertarian would act like a shill for the Romney campaign. Even Ayn Rand must be turning in her grave at the serial hypocrisy of Paul's help for Romney!

I have written before, especially in view of the racism that has found its way into Paul's newsletters, that Paul is very weak on personal responsibility. He talks a good game about others but does not practice it himself.

When Romney sounds like he is looking for wars to fight, why does Paul, who claims he is against these wars, refuse to attack Romney?

When Romney lobbied for and accepted major earmarks as governor, campaigned for huge federal grants for the Olympics and instituted healthcare policies that Paul claims to vehemently oppose, why did Paul, who is so holy and uncompromising in his attacks against other candidates, refuse to attack Romney?

When donors give their money to Paul, do they intend that the money will be used to help Romney and attack Romney's opponents? If so, get a refund from Paul, and give the money directly to Romney! If not, get a refund from Paul, and buy the kids a present.

Why is it that Paul just happens to attack whichever candidate is the leading opponent to Romney, and changes his attacks based on whoever is the leading Romney opponent at a given time?

Why is it that Paul gives righteous speeches against banking bailouts but joins bankers pouring money into Romney's campaign in launching massive personal attacks against Romney's opponents as though Paul is part of the Romney campaign, an agent of the Romney campaign, and a stooge of the Romney campaign?

At least the bankers who support Romney, who is hardly a libertarian, do it openly. Paul, who claims to be a libertarian, asks his supporters for money, and uses their money to attack Romney's opponents, which only helps Romney, who makes a mockery of libertarian ideals.

Romney is the ultimate weather vane, the least principled candidate who has run in decades, constantly changing his views. So why is Paul, who claims to be a candidate of principle, doing Romney's dirty work of attacking his opponents?

It is time to call out Paul. I have tried to be fair to him, but I am fed up with his righteous rhetoric while both his policies and his actions often have the exact opposite effect of what he says he believes.

Paul is Romney's secret weapon, his attack poodle who goes after one Romney opponent after another, doing Romney's bidding, advancing Romney's interest and helping Romney's cause.

Donors to Paul might as well be donating to Romney's banker-financed, dirt-dishing super-PACs because the money they give to Paul ends up attacking Romney's opponents and advancing Romney's campaign.

Libertarian? Personal responsibility? Romney?

If Paul supporters want to elect Romney, it is their money. But Romney and Paul know what P.T. Barnum taught: Never give a sucker an even break.

Lots of interesting points.

Why doesnt Paul go after Romney?

 

[whodare]

What a mouth full of nonsense I knew it was garbage when you said something about how you consider information

 

[dagnabit]

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ron body slams mit took 2.6 seconds to find...
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3.8 seconds more to find ron responding to mit's war drumming.
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ron beating mittens about the head with the constitution is nothing new.
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not mittens but fun...

i could go on but why?

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

It's strategically logical. HW Bush was #2 in the primary and Reagan was said to have offered Bush VP to solidify Reagan's candidacy.

If Paul could manage to escape Romney's pac fallout, it's a good thing. IMO, just because there's a potential truce now doesn't suggest anything in particular down the road.

It's kind of ironic that Raul laments the sparse media following yet the type of scrutiny that goes with every candidate is taken as smears. Any time somebody does something unconventional they're going to attract attention. It's natural to not divulge strategy, else it may not be as effective.

IMO, Ron Paul knows his candidacy is going to be looked at from every possible angle, just like any other candidate. How far they go and how high they run in the primary results may indicate how much scrutiny is exercised.

Resist the temptation to take all this scrutiny personal. It's business as usual.

 

[ShroomDr]

ANYONE who has seen the debates has seen a lack of fervor from Dr Paul against Romney.

Paul goes after the others two fold, and Romney is seemingly the easiest target.

I dont think Paul is angling for a VP spot, he better run 3rd party, but these are interesting distinctions.

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

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ron body slams mit took 2.6 seconds to find...
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3.8 seconds more to find ron responding to mit's war drumming.
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ron beating mittens about the head with the constitution is nothing new.
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not mittens but fun...

i could go on but why?

Not sure anybody's suggesting that Ron Paul is silent on everything Mitt Romney. Romney's pack has spent tens of millions attempting to crush Newt and Rick. Never mind the media already covered that Mitt and Ron have a truce of sorts on their pac activity.

If Rick's gonna play the surrogate card on Ron Paul, his staff ought to be smart enough to ask the question, "How did Mittpac and Ronco know not to spend millions trashing each other?" If they can formulate that question, they'll prolly ride down to da election commission and say, "Hey!"

 

[whodare]

Just another lame attempt by the shmedia to try and disenfranchise all the on the fence Paul supporters

 

[dagnabit]

"How did Mittpac and Ronco know not to spend millions trashing each other?""

the answer is the question.
how do you know to ask?

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

Well, let's see.... Ron and Mitt don't react toward each other the way they do the other candidates. Mittpac and Ronco are responding accordingly. Media reports that Mitt and Ron acknowledge their current arrangement. It's coinkydink their pacs guessed right - or it isn't.

 

[itisme]

Discobiscuit:

Sac, your thread's days are numbered.

I think that statment along with all your other (minus a lil bit) content thas slander to us or Ron Paul.. JJScorpio has been checking in and knows what is going on. It's plain to see that your statement above, is your objective. If the mods do anything I imagine a bigger adjustment in your attitude is need more than most of us in here.

Cojito:

an example? why? its bad enough that Ron Paul considers me and anyone with a healthy libido to be sinful. sex is healthy. to shame people, label them as sinners, is unhealthy.

So...No examples of it.

He says nothing of a healthy libido being sinful. Your making things up.
You do realize by your incorrect definition of FORCE you are FORCING your views on him and judging him the sinner, in your eyes....
You label sex as healthy therefore he is the sinner, yet there is disease and death caused from sex also......
He is just pointing to the ROOT of the problem and it is based in his religion but also scientific facts.....
To ignore facts like Crabs, Herpes, Aids, Abortion or to label them healthy.... Seems WRONG........RIGHT?

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

Just another lame attempt by the shmedia to try and disenfranchise all the on the fence Paul supporters

Any evidence?

 

[dagnabit]

Well, let's see.... Ron and Mitt don't react toward each other the way they do the other candidates. Mittpac and Ronco are responding accordingly. Media reports that Mitt and Ron acknowledge their current arrangement. It's coinkydink their pacs guessed right - or it isn't.

lets see...
you see it.
the media sees it
the other candidates see it
mit and ron "acknowledge" it
shroom sees it
but the pacs? not so much...
naaa no coinkidink. just observation.

 

[ShroomDr]

what a joke...

You would give Newt a run for his money in the self righteous department.

"a bigger attitude adjustment" what a farce.

You started a puppet to agree with yourself... LOL