Ron Paul 2012!!! Your thoughts on who we should pick for our "Cause"?

[zymos]

I do have the education (degrees) and scientific background (more than 20 years in the field) to understand. A good example is bone grafting material taken from the hip or from a cadaver (that of a deceased person) that is used in a cage around a spine that has failed due to compression fracture or discectomy. These are used to generate growth of a functional nature...... none is regulated by the FDA. It is a medical treatment and procedure performed in the Practice of Medicine. There is no difference in extracting stem cells and coaxing them into regenerating the same growth and fusion of bone structure. The bone and the stem cells are not medicine... they are part of a medical procedure..... not the same at all. Multitudes of examples if you would like more?

Now if you were to create special cells generalized to a vast demographic of patients and used broadly instead of the patients own their might be an argument but again.... how would that be different from using powdered cadaver bone? Osteophyte or Stem Cell is only a matter of the evolution of the stem cell into bone instead of Erythrocyte or blood cell.

It just seemed a bit rude to just assume you are the only one with knowledge. We all have our specialties. Can't just state them all on here due to security or I would indeed give you mine.

On another note, a thread about Ron Paul is the perfect place to discuss over empowerment of Department of the Federal Government.

Peace

Are you kidding me?
The FDA regulates bone grafts- allografts, xenografts, cadaver grafts...
10 seconds on Google turns up more pages of regulations, straight from the FDA, than you could read in a day.

If you think taking out a few stem cells, sending them to a lab to be cultured to multiply them, and then injecting them back into a person is equivalent to an autograft taken from a persons iliac crest and transplanted, in the same operative session, to another bone in the persons body, then I'm afraid you aren't really thinking it through.

 

[itisme]

Jealous alpha male monkey "attacks" man

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RA3_Ty3U29I&feature=g-logo&context=G2002a18FOAAAAAAAGAA

I figured u all might get a kick outta this short video.

 

[Mickeyspliff]

Here is a great argument for why Ron Paul is our best choice for Persident:
http://www.election4uspresident2012.weebly.com

How to become a delegate for Ron Paul: http://www.ronpauldelegates.wordpress.com

 

[bentom187]

we all know what they do, but is it neccesary ? they may make illeagle what are otherwise perfectly fine treatments ,to protect profits.
they also cant usually regulate anything if it doesnt cross state lines thats how bottled water companies get around those regulations,steal it from local lands,bottle and sell it back to the people in state.

so its not effective at times,regulates compitition where there is obviously a market, rick perry himself had the proceedure,even though we know how he uses the fda to force vaccinations on kids,wich did end in the death of a few, again a example of fda being harmful and not even caring.

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government can only use force to get things done,to unleash it into every aspect of our lives claiming their protecting us from ourselves is a waste of money.

 

[CannaBunkerMan]

we all know what they do, but is it neccesary ? they may make illeagle what are otherwise perfectly fine treatments ,to protect profits.
they also cant usually regulate anything if it doesnt cross state lines thats how bottled water companies get around those regulations,steal it from local lands,bottle and sell it back to the people in state.

so its not effective at times,regulates compitition where there is obviously a market, rick perry himself had the proceedure,even though we know how he uses the fda to force vaccinations on kids,wich did end in the death of a few, again a example of fda being harmful and not even caring.

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To quote Ron Paul in this link;

Hemp is a very, very good product, and if you want to get high on hemp you have to smoke a cigarette as big as a telephone pole.

RON PAUL 2012!
I smoke joints as big as telephone poles.

lolz

 

[bentom187]

funny

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not funny,but true

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[bentom187]

big turnout in Wa.

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[schwagg]

shoulda saw seatac bentom! it was freakin' PACKED. 2k people but the seattle times won't even give any decent coverage.

 

[itisme]

South Carolina vote manipulation!

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&...xMTc2NzgtM2MzYy00ZGJhLWI1MmYtMWU2ZGU1OWZkZjhk

 

[itisme]

The FDA is an Illuminati controlled bureaucratic pig sty and they are trying to kill us all. They don't want us eating healthy/raw because they want us eating the poisons they put in our foods and drugs. THE FDA IS PURE EVIL! That is why RON PAUL would end it as one of the five....FDA, EPA, Energy, HUD, Dept of Ed!

I Guarantee RON PAUL isn't leading a charge against the Amish and others for Raw milk and foods!

 

[zymos]

I'm sure the Free Market would do a much better job of ensuring safety- if enough people die from tainted products, others will notice and just stop buying those products.
It's that simple.
And if enough people get sick from polluted air or water, they'll just, umm,ummm...die?

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

DOE oversees nuclear plants. Sure would hate to see the BPs of private nuclear-plant operations go boom.

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

I'm sure the Free Market would do a much better job of ensuring safety- if enough people die from tainted products, others will notice and just stop buying those products.
It's that simple.

Until TR decided to read The Jungle over eggs and s-a-u-s-a-g-e.

And if enough people get sick from polluted air or water, they'll just, umm,ummm...die?

Accurate depiction of Love Canal, BP disasters and multiple repeat offenders like Koch Petroleum and Georgia Pacific.

 

[Avenger]

If there is competition in the market, companies would vie to be the safest product on the market. They would have to prove it and be held responsible for injuring others.

unlike how it is now where politically protected corps get away with murder.


It Is That Simple.

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

If there is competition in the market, companies would vie to be the safest product on the market....

And some would vie to increase profit margin and or market share at the expense of pollution and or worker/product safety.

 

[Avenger]

so hold them accountable for pollution and work place injuries.

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

We used to. Thirty years of private campaign financing watered it down.

 

[Avenger]

I agree, it is the fact that government and corporations are in bed together that we are in this mess.

Reducing the size of the government and there by removing special interest from having influence in government, is the goal.

 

[MadBuddhaAbuser]

Due to the petroleum presidencies we were forced to endure, oil companies act with complete abandon, and are only out for profit.

The.aforementioned koch brothers had been facing 384 million dollars in fines and four employees facing jail time due to pollution, but plead guilty to one charge, and paid a one millom solar fine (small potatoes to them) and back to business

Www.wfmu.org/daveemory FTR#726 koch-to-pus (check out all dave emory programs if you have time,will blow.your fucking mind)

Halliburton(dick cheneys former company) does not have to release to the EPA the chemicals in their fracking sludge, so they dont even know what to test for.

Cabot oil is currently calling out the EPA in PA, and acting above the law. Look up carter road in dimock for more.

They had to pay 100,000 recently for one of their many spills, and said "this won't affect us at all.

Dont anyone think for one fucking second their is proper oversight

 

[MadBuddhaAbuser]

And I won't sit here and watch people insinuate that other presidential candidates are saving us from pollution and that ron paul would lead to some environmental disaster.

Sorry for the wrong spellings, I'm on a borrowed mobile device. Auto correct is a bitch.