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Roe v Wade overturned.

Captain Red Eye

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dude, no... i was answering you're question. YOU seem to be the one getting hung up on red herrings, i'm just responding.

You seem to be the one giving unclear answers.

Also, I had to abort my inner grammar nazi..."your" "you're"...it was hard, but I didn't want to chastise you, so the abortion was okay. ;)
 

audiohi

Well-known member
Veteran
I pay taxes to the fire department to protect my house.

not yours.

I better not catch them helping a sovereign citizen because it's against my religion
 

Captain Red Eye

Active member
I pay taxes to the fire department to protect my house.

not yours.

I rake my own leaves, not yours. I pick my own nose, not yours. I buy my own clothes, not yours.

"My body, my choice" "Your money, your choice" Neither of these concepts are bad since neither violate another persons consent.

If I forcibly make you have an abortion or forcibly prevent you from having one, the bad thing occurring in either instance, is a persons consent is violated.

Are you for or against violating an otherwise peaceful persons consent ?

Also, fire protection could still be had using peaceful means couldn't it?
 

audiohi

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I rake my own leaves, not yours. I pick my own nose, not yours. I buy my own clothes, not yours.

"My body, my choice" "Your money, your choice" Neither of these concepts are bad since neither violate another persons consent.

If I forcibly make you have an abortion or forcibly prevent you from having one, the bad thing occurring in either instance, is a persons consent is violated.

Are you for or against violating an otherwise peaceful persons consent ?

Also, fire protection could still be had using peaceful means couldn't it?

I don't want you driving on the roads I pay for

stop violating my consent
 

Captain Red Eye

Active member
I don't want you driving on the roads I pay for

stop violating my consent

I have and continue to pay lots of money to drive on roads. I should pay for services I want and use.

I'm not going to have an abortion. 60 something year old guys rarely need them. Are you okay violating my consent to make me pay for your abortion or someone else?
 

Captain Red Eye

Active member
I better not catch them helping a sovereign citizen because it's against my religion

Helping people is a good thing. Violating their consent is not. The first can be done without resorting to the second.

Sovereign citizen? Sounds scary, I hope one doesn't put a flower in the barrel of the gun people might use to force people to fund abortions!
 
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audiohi

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Helping people is a good thing. Violating their consent is not. The first can done without resorting to the second.

Sovereign citizen? Sounds scary, I hope one doesn't put a flower in the barrel of the gun people might use to force people to fund abortions!

by the way...

stay out of state and federal lands because I pay a very small percentage for all the services they offer therefore I feel I get the final say
 

Captain Red Eye

Active member
by the way...

stay out of state and federal lands because I pay a very small percentage for all the services they offer therefore I feel I get the final say

I'm sorry I didn't know you own that land, if I stay out of it, will you please go and smoke that fattie? I wouldn't be okay with forcing somebody to buy your medical weed for you though. ;)

I agree, you should have the final say over what you own.
Why don't you also agree other people should to?

Would you be okay forcing people to pay for another persons liposuction ? Penis lengthening surgery? (Is that even a thing?) Birthday cake? Which principles do you apply when you consider these things?
 

audiohi

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I'm sorry I didn't know you own that land, if I stay out of it, will you please go and smoke that fattie? I wouldn't be okay with forcing somebody to buy your medical weed for you though. ;)

I agree, you should have the final say over what you own.
Why don't you also agree other people should to?

Would you be okay forcing people to pay for another persons liposuction ? Penis lengthening surgery? (Is that even a thing?) Birthday cake? Which principles do you apply when you consider these things?

why would I ever buy medical weed or ask you to pay for it?

I don't depend on government regulated cannabis sales to keep myself stocked and smoking as many fatties as I want, whenever I want. Legally.

I hear that you don't have any money for cannabis and I don't feel sorry for you.

Maybe when you realize that some people do things that they may not necessarily agree with because it really is the better choice for the society we live in, karma might help you out.


Can you point me to where you apply for your tax payer funded liposuction?

How about where to get penis lengthening surgery (why do you keep asking for that) paid by tax payers?

Where can I apply for a birthday cake from the municipal budget?


What principles do you apply when you make up these ridiculous scenarios?
 

armedoldhippy

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What is your position on a person who has a religious belief that abortions are wrong being made to pay for them?
every single person in this country can find something the govt does using tax dollars that they do not approve of. tough shit, move to another country.
What principles do you apply when you make up these ridiculous scenarios?
i have yet to discern any principles here yet from him (i guess it's a male, seems to need penis enlargement) except "i don't like this and don't think my tax dollars should be used for that. last i heard, Planned Parenthood does not supply abortion services using tax money. right-wing troglodytes realized that, and want to cut off ALL tax dollars used to fund their other services to women in an attempt to strangle the organization monetarily, thus cutting off ALL health care to poor women that PP provides, and no one else can/will.
 

Captain Red Eye

Active member
They certainly are.

Don't worry about the flowers, they only care about themselves.

Deciphering...Strong projection detected.

Flowers that don't want to force other flowers to pay for their fertilizer are selfish.

Flowers that want to force other flowers to pay for their fertilizer are not.

Damn those selfish flowers! 🥀
 

mean mr.mustard

I Pass Satellites
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Sovereign citizen? Sounds scary, I hope one doesn't put a flower in the barrel of the gun people might use to force people to fund abortions!

They certainly are.

Don't worry about the flowers, they only care about themselves.


Deciphering...Strong projection detected.

Flowers that don't want to force other flowers to pay for their fertilizer are selfish.

Flowers that want to force other flowers to pay for their fertilizer are not.

Damn those selfish flowers! 🥀

Are you actually current in this conversation??
 

Captain Red Eye

Active member
why would I ever buy medical weed or ask you to pay for it?

I don't depend on government regulated cannabis sales to keep myself stocked and smoking as many fatties as I want, whenever I want. Legally.

I hear that you don't have any money for cannabis and I don't feel sorry for you.

Maybe when you realize that some people do things that they may not necessarily agree with because it really is the better choice for the society we live in, karma might help you out.


Can you point me to where you apply for your tax payer funded liposuction?

How about where to get penis lengthening surgery (why do you keep asking for that) paid by tax payers?

Where can I apply for a birthday cake from the municipal budget?


What principles do you apply when you make up these ridiculous scenarios?

Those are fine questions, but haven't I asked you first if you think it's okay to make other people pay for things you like, but they don't and they disagree with ? Where would anyone get that right from? I thought that was stealing?

So, for the betterment of "society" you are okay with forcing people to pay for things they don't use and don't like? Sounds a little thuggy to me. Did you steal your weed or force somebody to buy it for you?

Also my questions were me goofing around to illustrate a point, AGAIN, it's wrong to force other people who aren't forcing you. Speaking of Karma.

If I offended you with dick humor, sorry. Besides, I don't even have any boots to tuck anything into. What size are your shoes? If you have an extra pair, you shoiuld hand them over. I can't believe you're walking around wearing shoes, while other people have no shoes!
 

nepalnt21

FRRRRRResh!
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That answer is kind of evasive and intellectually dishonest. I think you can do better than that.

"I didn't pull the trigger, I just made people buy the bullets and pay for the shooting lessons"
i really don't think it's either dishonest or evasive, it's reality. you can't pull all the strings apart.
 

Captain Red Eye

Active member
every single person in this country can find something the govt does using tax dollars that they do not approve of. tough shit, move to another country.

i have yet to discern any principles here yet from him (i guess it's a male, seems to need penis enlargement) except "i don't like this and don't think my tax dollars should be used for that. last i heard, Planned Parenthood does not supply abortion services using tax money. right-wing troglodytes realized that, and want to cut off ALL tax dollars used to fund their other services to women in an attempt to strangle the organization monetarily, thus cutting off ALL health care to poor women that PP provides, and no one else can/will.

Your first sentence sounds to me like "my master only whips me when I'm really disobedient, if you don't like this plantation, disobey master and he might sell you to one of those OTHER plantations where they're even meaner".

It is a little odd you were mentioning "minimum interference and maximum freedom" in another post a day or two ago and now I'm not sure how to take you since another side of your mouth seems to be moving now.

So for clarification, do you think it's a good thing to force disinterested and unwilling people to fund abortions ?

If so, are there other things you find acceptable to force on otherwise peaceful people ? Just want to warn people if need be.

You don't by chance have a rope and ski mask in the trunk of your car do you? :oops:
 
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