Revival of the Ultimate Sativa Thread

[chilliwilli]

thx

i will veg them and take cuts as soon as possible
and when the cuts root i will flower the plant out of seeds becaud 90d veg id a little long for me

thx willi

 

[e.T]

You can also flower cuts. I don't have room to flower large seed mothers either...
I use the seed for cuts and work from there.
Good luck

 

[Dirtboy808]

That's what happens when you're spreading the love....
...right in the eye.

Spread some out here in Puna again. Aloha DB

 

[Waldgeist]

thx

i will veg them and take cuts as soon as possible
and when the cuts root i will flower the plant out of seeds becaud 90d veg id a little long for me

thx willi

you can top your seedlings above the first real node, then top the first sidebranches that will come out again and again and take cuttings from those 2 times topped sidebranches. they are mature and will show alterning nodes in almost all strains.

leafblade count is then usually 1 or 3, no problem, they will grow normal as they get bigger/being flowered. don't mistake it as an autoflower trait or something, the lowest sidebranch shows low leafblade count naturally when it gets topped instantly.

With that style you can get your plants to maturity faster while keeping them very small and use less energy for vegetative part.

 

[Waldgeist]

Rooting cuts from flowering plants is a bitch. Takes much longer as the cuts have to reveg. My suggestion, grow the seed to 90days for sexual maturity. Take cuts and keep them on 24hr light schedule. Flower your sativas @ 11/13 on/off.
The only issues I've had with keeping mothers have been with the auto flowering traits in Zamal x's.
Just my .02

those are in fact a hard nut.

I work them with GLR(12/5/2/5) and additional rootpruning/media exchange but it looks i have one that cant be kept vegging right now ...

I hope to get any further input towards

'How to keep a Zamal dominant motherplant in full vegetative growth - forever'

 

[chilliwilli]

thx for the info

dr grinspoon is at day 19 veg now

https://www.icmag.com/modules/Journal/viewentry.php?journalid=1590



will take cuttings next week when i got time for shoping
i think i will leave 2 nodes

 

[bushweed]

Laos border Thai - sweet flavored, super positive, feel good strain that seems to get stronger with every week that it cures - 16 weeks outdoors...

Gifted from an expat grower living in Thailand, and comes from the border area near Sakon Nakhon where most of the best Thai sticks originated. The story is that when the DEA did their best to destroy the Thai stick trade, the farmers took their operation across the border to Laos, where the US military was targeting bombs on people rather than agriculture. Our friend there has recently uncovered another strain which he describes as the strongest he's encountered anywhere. He liked the way I grew these so he was nice enough to send me some of the new ones. Many thanks to my friend Donald Mallard for the hook up.

 

[KITCHA]

Looking like a Norfolk Island Pine bushy very nice structure! Any more mangobiche pics?

Cheers Kit

 

[Siever]

What ET got something in your eye lol
A strange year for me most plants didn't want to get big.
These girls are fallowing suit. Such is life.
I will start my next run under lights and hope my new plants get some size. Wink Wink I must have got the same thing as ET.
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How is the Angel Breath's smoke? I'm on that strain for a long time now. I once bought seeds through Mr Nice auctions, I paid, but never got the seeds. Since then I don't look at Mr Nice anymore. Plenty of others.

Siever

 

[Elmer Bud]

G`day Siever

Send a PM to FX the moderator of the Mr Nice forum .
There was a time when communications went south over there . But Shanti is nothing if not honest and generous with his seed customers .

Plus its not the 1st time I`ve seen you take the time to complain on this forum . Spend your energy sending FX a PM @ Mr Nice and I think you`ll get more satisfaction than writing more posts about how you were wronged .

Thanks for sharin

EB .

 

[Siever]

G`day Siever

Send a PM to FX the moderator of the Mr Nice forum .
There was a time when communications went south over there . But Shanti is nothing if not honest and generous with his seed customers .

Plus its not the 1st time I`ve seen you take the time to complain on this forum . Spend your energy sending FX a PM @ Mr Nice and I think you`ll get more satisfaction than writing more posts about how you were wronged .

Thanks for sharin

EB .

I already PM'ed him a lot. No answer. Too bad.

Siever

 

[e.T]

Laos border Thai - sweet flavored, super positive, feel good strain that seems to get stronger with every week that it cures - 16 weeks outdoors...
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Gifted from an expat grower living in Thailand, and comes from the border area near Sakon Nakhon where most of the best Thai sticks originated. The story is that when the DEA did their best to destroy the Thai stick trade, the farmers took their operation across the border to Laos, where the US military was targeting bombs on people rather than agriculture. Our friend there has recently uncovered another strain which he describes as the strongest he's encountered anywhere. He liked the way I grew these so he was nice enough to send me some of the new ones. Many thanks to my friend Donald Mallard for the hook up.

ok...so this must be the BLB thai that bucket is speaking so highly of. Bushy's Laos Border thai perhaps? lol
that cured nuglet sure does look tasty. beautiful plants man. 16wks is totally managable...

 

[Javadog]

16wks is totally managable

Ha ha ha ha! You are acclimated. :0)

I am running my first long-runner, Ace's Purple Haze.

Tomorrow Week #12 ends, and it looks like a normal plant
at about Week #3. It looks to go the full 20 Weeks.

JD

 

[Dirtboy808]

How is the Angel Breath's smoke? I'm on that strain for a long time now. I once bought seeds through Mr Nice auctions, I paid, but never got the seeds. Since then I don't look at Mr Nice anymore. Plenty of others.

Siever

These are my first, and I will most likely pull them out. I don't want to take the space on a one ft plant. Aloha DB

 

[JACKBAYBEH]

Laos border Thai

Laos border Thai

Sweet Jeezus Bushy.
That seed stash of yours is like a genetic gold mine.
Always impressive.

 

[onefinity]

Bushy- how do you think that Laos Border Thai would do crossed to your Oaxacan?
Is there a name for the new Thai coming your way?

 

[Jhhnn]

Laos border Thai - sweet flavored, super positive, feel good strain that seems to get stronger with every week that it cures - 16 weeks outdoors...
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Gifted from an expat grower living in Thailand, and comes from the border area near Sakon Nakhon where most of the best Thai sticks originated. The story is that when the DEA did their best to destroy the Thai stick trade, the farmers took their operation across the border to Laos, where the US military was targeting bombs on people rather than agriculture. Our friend there has recently uncovered another strain which he describes as the strongest he's encountered anywhere. He liked the way I grew these so he was nice enough to send me some of the new ones. Many thanks to my friend Donald Mallard for the hook up.

Yowsers. A beautiful example of classic Thai genetics, and a beautiful example of why they do best outdoors in a suitable climate.

Your work is amazing and your photography is excellent as well Thank you for posting it. It's inspirational, to say the least.

 

[ThaiBliss]

Yowsers. A beautiful example of classic Thai genetics, and a beautiful example of why they do best outdoors in a suitable climate.

Your work is amazing and your photography is excellent as well Thank you for posting it. It's inspirational, to say the least.

Here here! Kudos to Bushweed. Good old school Thais seem to be rare, in these parts anyway, and it is heartwarming to know that in some corners of the world they are still highly valued, Austrailia, Laos, etc..

Thanks for appreciating, preserving, and sharing those wonderful pictures with us. I wish everyone could have a chance to experience these world class Sativas.

ThaiBliss

 

[Elmer Bud]

G`day Bushie

I saw that bud shot a few days ago elsewhere .
It was from a mystery grower . LOL .
There was talk about the 70s and Buddha Sticks .

BLB laid a big joint of Laos weed on me when I visited him .
A huge reefer . I took it back to my accommodation and procured a bong .Broke up the joint .
1 pipe and that was more than enough !

That one big joint lasted me the rest of the week .

I will be heading back out there in the New year . Wish me luck .

@ Siever

So just keep on whining then .
FX is a friend of mine . He has taken over the moderation recently . If you contact him like I suggest I`m certain you would get satisfaction .
Like I said earlier there was a communication break down . It has now been resolved .

Thanks for sharin

EB .

 

[bushweed]

Thanks for the props guys, much appreciated. I'd love to see more of these raw tropical strains out there for public consumption. I have approached a few seedbanks with the offer of unselected Thai seeds, but they appear to be too much trouble for the breeders due to protracted flowering times and minimal cola development. And where a Thai may take 16 weeks in my environment, I know it will only take 12 in the source environment, and probably 20 weeks at 35 degrees + from the equator. So I understand the difficulty. And while there is a hardcore group of us who inhabit the sativa pages, I don't know if there's really a market out there compared to the Crippy cuts and hybrids.

Bushy- how do you think that Laos Border Thai would do crossed to your Oaxacan?
Is there a name for the new Thai coming your way?

I think they would make a nice cross; the Laos Border Thai is very balanced and uplifting - a natural antidepressant - much the same character as Kanga's Oaxacan, the difference is in the flavors and aromas. A couple of Thais have already been crossed to K's Oaxacan including his GN Thai cut (probably no longer exists), and Nevil crossed in his '78 Thai as well. I've not tried either. I am running a couple of RC Cola's Oaxacan's next to the new super Laos/Thai (which I might refer to as BLB's Super Laos), so if there's a male anywhere in there.

Apart from that this year is about searching through some of Kangativa's old MM and Oaxacan seeds. These remain real favorites, and there's an added desire to help repatriate Kanga's collection when he's released (sentencing this month). Here's some of his Oaxacan Trance being grown as we speak...

GOOD LUCK ELMER!