Revival of the Ultimate Sativa Thread

[ElectroSticky]

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[pSi007]

Cali had great genetics as did other locations around the US and the world cali kush craze how been in a short time cali had and I'm sure still has great lines growing that don't have any kush in there genetic make up.

To say Texas has Shoreline and East Coast got Diesel and so on is like saying England has the mini minor Texas has the catelak and cali has the VW bug were in reality they also have Nissans fords chevs and so on.

Try not to invoke generalization comments to being ignorance. Cali is not only about kush, i think we ALL know that.. some of the finest imported sativas have evolved into new age sativas partially due to the effort of the growers in california. I know these cali folks are not as good in cannabis as some of those dutch, but give us a break.

I'm sure still has great lines growing that don't have any kush in there genetic make up

....jeez. obviously.. I live in Cali bay area and i hate Kush.. happy¿ please stop the flaming and general abuse, dalai.

but instead creates controversy & bad vibes + steals the original breeders work in a second!

Peace all

anyone remember the original BOG seeds? whitelabel knockoffs they were.. heh..


here is one of my sativas, please dont flame me Dalai and call my shit inferior.

 

[Guest]

I really wasn't trying to say anything negative when I mentioned Cali and Kush, I was simply generalising. I could have picked any one of many well known Cali strains when I was making my generalisation but for some reason, Kush popped into my head first, probably because the Kentish Creme has several qualities that are often spoken off when folks talk about Kali Kushes - very dense nuggets, outrageous resin, huge calyxes.

That's a beautiful sat psi, what's the lineage?

 

[guest123]

few more sativas my mate grew to get u guys back on track ,, lets not mention kush and indicas so much in the sativa thread ey ??? seems to get folks blood up .. hehehe

 

[Guest]

Very pretty ladies there Wally. That first one has very large calyxes, and I like the pink pistils, is that one of your Panama Red crosses?

I want to apologise for ever using the dreaded 'k-word' in this thread, amazing how one simple comment can spin some folks off into a strange place.

I've got a question for ya wally, can low temps inhibit flowering in tropical sats? Reason I ask is that I have two Thais and a Jahwi's Joy from Ghana that are over 3 months old, first 10 weeks 12/12 from seed, last 2 weeks 11/13 and still no sign of them flowering. A third Thai is slowly starting to flower. Temps with lights on have been 17-17 celsius and lights out around 10 celsius, my indicas are flowering great, but these sats, althought they look perfectly healthy, just refuse to flower!

 

[guest123]

Very pretty ladies there Wally. That first one has very large calyxes, and I like the pink pistils, is that one of your Panama Red crosses?

I want to apologise for ever using the dreaded 'k-word' in this thread, amazing how one simple comment can spin some folks off into a strange place.

I've got a question for ya wally, can low temps inhibit flowering in tropical sats? Reason I ask is that I have two Thais and a Jahwi's Joy from Ghana that are over 3 months old, first 10 weeks 12/12 from seed, last 2 weeks 11/13 and still no sign of them flowering. A third Thai is slowly starting to flower. Temps with lights on have been 17-17 celsius and lights out around 10 celsius, my indicas are flowering great, but these sats, althought they look perfectly healthy, just refuse to flower!

actually that one isnt related to panama red ,, a good chance it has ducksfoot in it ,, we used to get a lot of pink ladies from that strain ...
as for the low temps ,, yep id say so ,, if they are not already in full flower ,, then cool temps will slow them down , its rare to get cold in the tropics during flowering , and the temp doesnt really drop much until late in flower , nice fresh coool nights and hot days still ... the plants really seem to like that kinda finish ...

 

[Guest]

Ah well, guess all I can do is keep pruning and training them until the weather warms up and they start flowering. I might have to reduce the light regime further to get them to flower I think. Is it unusual for topical sats to require a dark period of greater than 13 hours in order to flower? I thought most places in the tropics had pretty much 12/12 all year round?

 

[pSi007]

I've got a question for ya wally, can low temps inhibit flowering in tropical sats?

thats a damn fine question..!
i am an outdoor lover by heart but i have had VERY little ability to grow outdoors being that i live in the cali bay area (city folks). Often times i wonder, when seeing a crazy haze plant outdoors with a buddy who was growing it asked me, "when will it be finished".. well the cannasavant i like to include myself as, i had no answer for him.. hahaha.. i said, give it more shad and add phos to the soil to 'maybe' help encourage bloom. is there a 'secret weapon' in trying to mature tropical sativas outdoors in the higher northern/southern climate besides the shade trick? out here, sativas start to bloom late, around september. the prob is, it usually freezes near to early-mid december. sometimes that is enough time for tropicals, sometimes its not. usually to exp the full on sativa glow, it is not enough time. got respect for u duckman i still have some duckfoot you gifted to me about 5/6 years ago. peace to ya, brother!

ps, that last pic was of myown hybrid mango haze but out of respect for 'greenhouse fake trainwreck, CO.' i`ll call it citrus haze.

 

[ElectroSticky]

BH ,

i am VERY near the ecuator ,, we have 12/12 all year long , on nights there is a constant cold throughout the year ,, days we have 6 months with rain and 6 months with light , so 6 months HOOOT AND BLOOMING , and 6 months COLD AND BLOOMING!!!

i see your question on tropical sats has an answer here ,, it does not inhibits ...

it may slow vegetative growth but not inhibit the blooming ... (unlike indicas) we can only use them for 6 months outdoor ,,, but what a GREAT result !!!!


007-
what do you say this is ¿ ,, a mango hybrid ?

tell me ,,looks great !!

Peace

 

[EddieShoestring]

this is the best sat that i've grown. It is an Elite Clone...and it's bagseed as well -lol-and guess what-we've no idea what it really is. The speculations on it's identity have included sports of Diesel, Jack Herer, C99, Superskunk, etc. Obviously it is not a pure sat but the hit is VERY racy-and the plants sooo stretchy that the sat aspect is prounced in some areas.
The striking thing about it is that is some of the strongest weed (hit and smell wise) that I, or anyone who has encountered it, have ever come across. You can't grow it in an ordinary grow set up or keep in normal weed storage-the smell will not be contained. It is like a dank lemon solvent, but so penetrating.
The effect is like smoking a wild party. It's fast, zoomy and hallucinagenic-but it is so strong that even heavy heavy smokers will get monstered time and time again. There have been a few incidents when 'serious' smokers have lost some of their dignity after smoking it-panic attacks-freak outs etc.
I was told that it was not weed to smoke all the time-but ended up with 1/2lb to get through last year, and virtually nothing else for a while, so i can personally confirm that it is not weed to smoke all the time if you want anything resembling a normal life.
It takes 10 weeks and the yields are big-comparable to 'commercial' strains. I love it



i guess that it is easy for me, here in the UK where genetics are freely and legally available, to poke fun at the elite clone thing. But i apprieciate that in other places where seeds are illegal and the scene mainly runs on underground and 'legal' cuts-then there is big money involved and that changes things.
Thats just the way it is-but not in the ICsat club where we are all supercool dudes with mirror shades and shit like that........
(exits to the Theme from Shaft)

cheers
eddie

 

[medical_shed]

Sounds like a winner Eddie, here's the last crazy sat that I grew. Same situation, not for every day smoking but it's all I've had for a while

It's NL5HazexNepJam (or possibly 303) also known as The Dispensation cut, another uk elite I reckon sorry








Cheers Gert

 

[Dalaihempy]

Try not to invoke generalization comments to being ignorance. Cali is not only about kush, i think we ALL know that.. some of the finest imported sativas have evolved into new age sativas partially due to the effort of the growers in california. I know these cali folks are not as good in cannabis as some of those dutch, but give us a break.

Psi did you in fact read my replie ? Because if you did you would know i posted nothing of the sort i infact sed cali is way more than just the kush craze that seams to be what cali is labeled as today by young growers.

And as for some of these dutch guys you and a few more seam to comment on a lot you do relies there in fact american australian and from places out side of Amsterdam but most have moved or are moving from there now any way to more friendly locations.

....jeez. obviously.. I live in Cali bay area and i hate Kush.. happy¿ please stop the flaming and general abuse, dalai..

You need to stop trolling psi.

anyone remember the original BOG seeds? whitelabel knockoffs they were.. heh.. .

here is one of my sativas, please dont flame me Dalai and call my shit inferior.

Looks nice psi but nothing like a sativa should look that your fake mangohaze by chance ? .

Some of you guys need to wake up you think you have all the answers Psi you need to study and work out what the differences are between sativas and indicas im thinking.

Cali has and had some very good sativas and breeders but so do many other locations / places around the world this is not directed at cali growers or breeders that i in fact have a lot of respect for but the ignorant people from cali like you Psi.


medical_shed that red mojo message was very mature says a lot about you.

You guys need to start acting mature this post is not yours to do as you like or is this site for that matter its every members.

 

[PHB]

Can y'all please stop with the drama and cat fighting? Put each other on ignore if that is what it takes.

PHB

 

[Dalaihempy]

No need to put any one on ignore if people stop talking shit to me i want react it is that simple if were here to talk about sativas then people need to stay on topic.

I find it amazing that all i did was post a replie to Herbalistic who i don't have a problem with by the way and the trolling starts YET i post pictures of an old pure Thia sativa line and no one comments on it rather interesting as its a sativa post dont you think.

Some People seam to have this very elitist attitude on the boards you fit in or you don't what you guys fail to relise is people like me are more than willing to help and shear noligue and what genetics i and they have but the more i think on things the less of ether I'm willing to do now and would rather just give out the genetics to people i know personally to pass on to people they know and not bother with any of you on line ask your self why have so many older growers left the boards.

We have a saying here Thats keep the basterds honest and something this community needs more of.

 

[guest123]

Ah well, guess all I can do is keep pruning and training them until the weather warms up and they start flowering. I might have to reduce the light regime further to get them to flower I think. Is it unusual for topical sats to require a dark period of greater than 13 hours in order to flower? I thought most places in the tropics had pretty much 12/12 all year round?

hey bh , good to see u are still on topic ,

we are gonna try keep on topic here , hate this thread to be edited , poor old montaco would be after some testicles for ruining his thread ..
lets just put egos , etc aside and discuss growing sativas , not whose is best , just what u got to show is great , and what we are all here for ....

ok ,, so as we were talking about tropical light regimes ,, yes at the equator it is 12 12 , but the tropics extend a lot further than that , and as it does , so the days grow a little longer ... jamaica for instance ,, given it is the same lat as i am but in the other hemisphere ,, id predict the day lengths will be exactly the same ,, im sure youll find their longest day is just over 13 hrs and shortest around 11 ..
and u are right ,, the days the pure sativas flower here they are still longer than 11 , and probably begin to flower here when they are more like 11 and a half or more ... the tropical monsoon seems to play a big part on the behaviour of them , and id say ideally , they try to finish after the monsoon has finished , id imagine in order to have a dryer finish , or the bud will be ruined by the massive deluges ... im not sure how long cannabis has been in the tropics , but it seems to have adapted through natural selection id i would imagine ,, the faster to flower plants were most likely lost to mould , and only the longer flowering ones could survive ..
i may be wrong ,, but just observations from living in the tropics most of my life ...

 

[marijuanamat]

Heres a pic of my big luang sativa which has been flowering since mid nov.





and my colombian gold around 4 weeks bloom..

 

[pSi007]

this is the best sat that i've grown. It is an Elite Clone...and it's bagseed

cheers
eddie

elite indeed..

 

[EddieShoestring]

medical_shed:It's NL5HazexNepJam (or possibly 303) also known as The Dispensation cut, another uk elite I reckon sorry

Hi mate
great pics-great cut-i've smoked it its great weed

cheers
eddie

 

[Bacchus]

this is the best sat that i've grown. It is an Elite Clone...and it's bagseed as well ...eddie

LOL Now that is a VERY funny sentence. Congrats on finding an awesome plant. madsat great name. Is that an IBL by the way Sorry poking fun at the marketing folks.

Here is a Tom Hill Haze which I think came from Poistronics orginal Haze stock way back when....

 

[EddieShoestring]

LOL Now that is a VERY funny sentence. Congrats on finding an awesome plant. madsat great name. Is that an IBL by the way Sorry poking fun at the marketing folks.

elite indeed..

guys-you do realise that when i called it an Elite clone i was taking the piss outa the whole elite clone thing, yeah?
I didn't find it either-another crew did over 10yrs ago-grew it for years and have passed it out to one or two UK growers. No-one is ever going to buy or sell it. Obviously, after growing it i got onto them and urged them to reproduce it and make it commercially available, because it is so outstanding, but they're deep and not into that.

marijuanamat Heres a pic of my big luang sativa which has been flowering since mid nov.

wow

cheers
eddie