Revival of the Ultimate Sativa Thread

[moe]

thumbs up spicecowboy

 

[marijuanamat]

Herbalistic the luang prabang hasn't shown a single banana as of yet and for 2 day's i had a little light leak in the bloom room after lights out and 1 of my plants has started to produce a banana or 2 (not luang)because of it , but i'm keeping a very close eye on then all now,especially the luang.
I'll get some new pics up later on or tommorow of the luang and my last michoacan thats just drying at the mo.

 

[Herbalistic]

Very cool mat I cannot wait what you produce with them Lao sativas!

Spicecowboy: That sounds like a good idea to dedicate whole grow to reproduce Dalat line for the community! Best option would be open pollination among all the plants you manage to germ & grow, this way you could save as much genetic diversity as possible among your small amount(?) of original Dalat seeds

After this other growers could decide which direction they start breed em, but you have done your job & huge favour for the community

Btw, I really dont think it´s impossible to grow Dalat / any other 100 % sativas in small space with low height. Just remember to train them hard and everything should be ok... Also, this would be the style of choice if you dont have ideal enviroment for them, low/small lightamount/-intensity does fatten up smaller buds, but big main colas may not fill!

Also... I think Dalat is the type of strain that doesnt require much light intensity, but produces better, when left aside from direct light Of course, this will be solvet only by growing Dalat and making notes of her preferences...

Dubi from ACE seeds has grown this line outdoors in Spain if my memory serves me right Maybe he wanna chime in and let us know his experiences with it!

 

[Slim Pickens]

Only one word:


DALAT!

Only 4 words..

Make

lots

of

seed!





Herbalistic is right,if Dubi has grown this one out,he would be an excellent choice for information...I think Dubi has probably done them all at one time or another..
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[guest123]

While that is a very impressive plant, given good genetics, lots of sun and a rich soil, cannabis grows like that - huge and bountiful flowers.

Do you think that is a pure Colombian? Looks like it has probably had a lil indica in it's blood at some point, those buds looks suspiciously large and beefy for a pure sat.

I'm not dissing it at all, just looks a lil bit of hybridisation has occured, I've not seen a pure sat grow such large flowers before.

hey herb ,, i cant speak for the lineage of that plant , but i can say its not unusual for sativas to grow like that ,, they are not all skinny whispy airy buds like many think , u can get some nice fat tight chunky buds in sativas .. ive seen many of them ...
i used to wonder if they had indica in them too , but it occured to me that they are both the same plant originally , so of course some indicas will throw sativa looking plants , and visa versa ,, stands to reason .. doesnt necessarily mean someone has crossed any indica into it recently ...
i remember talking to dalat about those viet sativas ,, he said the feilds he saw were huge plants big dense buds , and im betting no one sees them indoors like that , hehe ....

 

[bonecarver_OG]

i agree with wally duck - because most sativas i see growing under the spanish sun in good condicions get surprisingly FAT and chunky nugs. not at all as the ones i grow indoors..

i think sativas need the real sun even more than indicas to get the best out of them. but also indicas and sativas grown outdoors in the right spot get definetly a lot bigger calyx, denser and resinous than indoors.

i saw ages back pics of a friend living in the canary islands doing a check with a foto-meter (used in photografy to check light) to see the ligth intensity of the sun outdoors at plain daylight, and also as reference a 600W light indoors in a mylar-coated space.

the sun kicked the 600W'ers ass 100 x..

ill skip the scientific part - everyone can check themself about lux on wickipedia hehe

peace all

 

[Dalaihempy]

Growing sativas indoors or out can both achive good results you just need to do it a little different indoors to what you would do out doors the largest problem doing sativas indoors is they hate intense lite in flower veg give them all you like.

Also few people that grow sativas in or out let them fully mature and growing sativas indoors mature different to sativas grown out doors ,Out door sativas mature/ fill out top to bottom were sativas grown indoors fill out bottom to top.

But no matter how good you grow sativas or indicas i personally think all grow best out doors and yield best out doors when planted in the ground but few can run them out doors so why indoor growing become what it has and why people need to think out side the box and relise you can grow sativas indoors if you whant to grow them but you just need to do it a different way to what you would grow an indica indoors.

Worse thing you can do growing sativas indoors is give them to much lite in flower.

 

[Londinium]

Wow Raco I just saw your friend's Colombian and what a perfect beauty she is!
Él es un excelente productor Sativa como muchos de ustedes son y no hay mejor luz que brilla abajo en españa!
Ella busca Sativa suficiente para mí ... No hay más cola de lo que muchos Sativa planta que he visto en España y África bajo pleno sol .... O algunos que he visto en el interior del U.K. Much respect JBo

 

[Dalaihempy]

Wow Raco I just saw your friend's Colombian and what a perfect beauty she is!
Él es un excelente productor Sativa como muchos de ustedes son y no hay mejor luz que brilla abajo en españa!
Ella busca Sativa suficiente para mí ... No hay más cola de lo que muchos Sativa planta que he visto en España y África bajo pleno sol .... O algunos que he visto en el interior del U.K. Much respect JBo

hi Londinium mate this isn't the Spanish forum as you can type in English you should here so we all can understand what your saying not just Raco.

Translation

In English:
It is an excellent Sativa producer as many of you you are and is no better light than he shines down in Spain! She looks for sufficient Sativa for me... There is no more tail of which many Sativa plant that I have seen in Spain and Africa under total sun.... Or some that I have seen in the interior of the U.K. Much respect JBo


Londinium lots of ereas around the world grow great sativas not just Spain mate Hawaiian / Australian / asian sun lite to mention a few places also works fine not just spains.

I don't see how you could grow a real sativa in the UK ethir mate.

 

[Londinium]

Hi Mate,My posting of a few sentences in Spanish in hindsight was a little rude so sorry for that Hempy and Here is the correct translation for you b4 u get upset by anything else you THINK I said:
He is an excellent Sativa grower as many of you are, and there is no better light than shines down on spain! She looks Sativa enough for me ... No bigger cola's than many sativa plant that I have seen in Spain and Africa under full sun .... Or some that I have seen indoors in the U.K. Much respect JBo

I dont see why you have to defend anything,I was not saying Spain grow's the best weed...I just happen to love the Spanish weather and growers. I spoke about Spanish and African Sativa's as that is where most of my outdoor Sativa experience has been. The point I was making was that I didn't think that buds like the 'Colombian' plant had were strange for outdoor grown Sativa as nice as they were,many good Sats get fat bud's outdoor's in good sun as I know you'll agree!
I am aware of the great weed in all the places you mentioned but don't have the same experience in those places(I come on this Forum to find out about the places I haven't been) so I wasn't gonna comment about them.That Clearly in no way means I was claiming anywhere is the only one place to grow the best weed! I am entitled to have a passion for Spanish weather aren't I? Or do I have to talk about places I've never been being wonderful just to keep sensitive soul's like you smiling?
As for Real Sativa's in the UK, I meant Indoor's OBVIOUSLY and if u wanna see or smoke some UK Sat then come and see me or the thousands of other Indoor Sativa growers who don't seem to be having any problem's with Indoor Sativa growing!
There was nothing to argue with me about except my not translating the Spanish to English(which you were within your rights to correct me on)but you seem to have a Paranoia that everyone is competing with you when they write innocent messages of compliment to growers from other countries.
Try not reading into everything I say and coming up with arguments that I haven't started in the first place!
If I tell you that you are the best grower in the world will you stop argueing about NOTHING with me? I often need a translator for your post's but hadn't felt like Boring you with it as I have better things to do than nitpick about nothing! Show some love I am not your enemy! JBo

 

[Guest]

+1 smoke weed, make love.

 

[charlie garcia]

Hola amigos

Only chiming in to agree with wally and others about sativa yields. Always found some sativas to yield much more than indicas when outdoors. When they "express" well they put long buds and colas in each branch, not as thick as indicas most but enough to fill your boxes.

As usual, sometimes we have the idea of sativas = 20 weeks spear plants.. not correct at all or not fully correct. There are plenty of sativas from 12 weeks to 20 weeks where you can get very good yields in any outdoor crop.

Must say some ppl can get their best results with them and Kolmus Barranquilla is a nice example of a great grower who make them express with all its full potential, never compared to any indoor grown. You should see how this guy also grew some congoleses or some jamaicans... amazing and so beautiful fully expressions of flowers

best to all

 

[Dalaihempy]

There was nothing to argue with me about bexcept my not translating the Spanish to English(which you were within your rights to correct me on)but you seem to have a Paranoia that everyone is competing with you when they write innocent messages of compliment to growers from other countries.
Try not reading into everything I say and coming up with arguments that I haven't started in the first place!
If I tell you that you are the best grower in the world will you stop argueing about NOTHING with me? I often need a translator for your post's but hadn't felt like Boring you with it as I have better things to do than nitpick about nothing! Show some love I am not your enemy! JBo

Londinium you can post in English and no offence when you post 1 sentence in English then the rest in Spanish no one can read it but the Spanish you have a Spanish forum so post it there.

I was not rude to you i translated the post into English so all could read it and i replied to it what was wrong in that or Argumentive in my actions ?.

Well after reading this i think your trying to start an argument not me.

Mate the best grower is the grower that is happy with his or her harvest as i see it no one can or should say there the best and cannabis has grown great with out mans hands so maybe the cannabis plant is the best or mother nature.

I also know more about Spanish cannabis colture than im betting you think i know i like Spanish people and have Spanish friends.

You often need a translator for my posts lol new the spelling had to come into it funny thing is its only ever thrown in my face in an argument you know what im not cearing any more people can say it and what ever they like people can read and do and this is getting old if you cant read it blame Spell Check now days.

 

[marijuanamat]

Heres a few pics of a few of my Original Haze clones all from the same mother.

Haze at 3 weeks bloom



And at 7-8 weeks bloom




And here's 1 of my luang prabang cuttings at 7-8 weeks bloom.

 

[martian313]

just a quick bit of input regarding growing pure sativas outdoor....at a northern cline. Very simple to do if you have the time, security and space, start them early indoors and as soon as the weather is bright and warm enough (usually first week of June or earlier in a greenhouse if your strain is a 16-20 weeker) move em' out and force flower by bringing them in and out on a 12/12 or 11/13 or whatever you choose. Light pollution is not really an issue when doing this (ie street light glow full moon etc.) , and I guarantee that any buds you get using the natural light at it's most intense period, even really far north 4 of the year will knock the socks off any Sativa grown indoors even under the strongest lights.

peace...m313

 

[guest123]

here u go , this should prove my point ,, super silver haze outdoors ,,

 

[XyZ]

wow wally - nice ssh outdoor flower!
this must be some fine tasty stuff

 

[Raco]

Very nice wally
BH,
I think it´s a typical fat colombian
I´ve seen plants from colombian seed much bigger than that and it was long long before I had ever seen an indica
Colombian strains are unknown to most folks IMO

Here´s my moños rojos at day 49 of 12/12

 

[Guest]

Interesting, I have to admit, I've not got much experience with Colombian strains. I always assumed that the pollution by indica genes was responsible for the big, chunky sativa types, but of course, like all assumptions, it's not really based on fact, just supposition.

I have a really chunky Mexican sativa that I'm starting to think has no indica pollution in her as she takes 14 weeks and has a completely clear, heady high with no body effects, smokes like a pure sativa, the thing that made me think there was a lil bit of indica in her was the unusually large, dense flowers and the really thick, strong stems.

 

[Guest]

I have a really chunky Mexican sativa that I'm starting to think has no indica pollution in her as she takes 14 weeks and has a completely clear, heady high with no body effects, smokes like a pure sativa, the thing that made me think there was a lil bit of indica in her was the unusually large, dense flowers and the really thick, strong stems.

BH, mexi sativas are some of the best sativas around. not just in potentcy, but in there growth. i keep a oaxacan highland line, and they produce the largest fruity buds, and tight buds.

i live in a fairly dry climate,, and have never ever seen a molded bud........until the oaxacan plants, which molded in the top buds. they were just so thick, and grew all together, no air could get to um.

have a line from micheocan, which is another favorite, along with TomHills Haze.

your yucatan line, from pics seems to yield pretty fair, and as ya say its a straight up sativa. ive grown many different sativas, and really those jungle buds may smoke nice, but imo you need to grow many many plants to find the nice tight budded plants which you pictured.

personally i cant stand those stringy runny buds, with the tiny calyx all over. like a brillo pad. have had quite a few of those, from many different sativas, they yield in appearance huge, the bud gigantic(Dalat,columbian, thai) but dryed its miserable to handle, just falls apart.

id like to find a nice columbian line, that makes nice buds. weed i smoked as a kid. columbian back then outta the city was chunky, tight bud. theres a few around ive yet to try, just gettin my paws on um is the thing

good sativas arent so easy to come by, lots of hay around.

talkin of thick stalks, sturdy plant, check out a Dalat, ravenous plants, have never seen nothin so agressive in growth. i liked um quite a bit while growin um, but the big hairy buds were a let down.

i have no problems of stories about the 25ft Dalats, man sized buds.