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Revival of the REVIVAL of the ULTIMATE SATIVA THREAD a.k.a R.U.S.T II
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BAKED_BEANZ
late start , mainly just to check it out , think there 5 weeks from seed .
mullumbimby madness x headbanger
also have a few same age MM x ojsdkb , goal is to bring flower time down with some of the crosses ( not the headbanger x )
just put in a tray of MM x black lime reserve and MM x headbanger to see more pheno,s and quality of flowers
mullumbimby madness x headbanger
also have a few same age MM x ojsdkb , goal is to bring flower time down with some of the crosses ( not the headbanger x )
just put in a tray of MM x black lime reserve and MM x headbanger to see more pheno,s and quality of flowers
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BAKED_BEANZ
i selected several MM females individually to pollinate , with different hybrid males . i was looking for more compacted tighter buds on the females i pollinated . theres some more airy type MM that did,nt appeal to me .
females i chose had heavy lemon terps mid flower that graduated into a more intrusive poo type odour towards finish .
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yes i grew a few last year and they did the same thing ,
one was very much a creeper ,
topped once , no training otherwise ...
Im still loving the growth habit of these zamal plants. I'd like to grow one out of a south facing balcony.
natural growth other than topping once siever ,,
shes a sprawler ..
It would be interesting if that were bred into autoflowers. People could have small low growing plants for patios & balconies that don't look like cannabis from any distance at all.
Autoflowers are interesting in their own way & will only get better. Having some zamal ancestry might help 'em along.
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would be interesting actually ,
some weird flowering traits on zamal ,
ive never been able to get the male to reveg properly ,
it grows , but flowers the whole time ..
its stuck in flower mode ,
strange behaviour for a sativa ...
yep getting a bit carroty now ,Lovely plant (a creeping bamboo vine is it?), any carrot aroma?
noted last time it was carroty ,
then later it became carrot with a very fuel note to it ,
was quite a powerful smell ...
Some plants auto-flower from root restriction. I believe others have overcome this by trimming roots and plant, and repotting in the peak summer. It needs very bright sunshine, long days/short nights, and space for roots to grow to. I believe this has worked in more northern latitudes. You might be able to augment light hours by moving indoors in the evening and/or morning. I think I read this from Dubi's posts. If you are looking to overcome this by hearing from someone with first hand experience, you might want to ping him.
I posted on the auto flowering traits of the carrot zamal pheno out of zamaldelica. so did dubi. from my personal experience my auto zamal I called zamalish out of zamaldelica never came out of flower mode under 24 light cycle. very difficult for me to keep a clone alive. did the same and then died.
that pheno made some incredibly vigorous (large) hybrids. hardy (no bud rot). I didn't get psychoactive traits off mine.
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=36181&highlight=zamalish&page=1066
that pheno made some incredibly vigorous (large) hybrids. hardy (no bud rot). I didn't get psychoactive traits off mine.
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Sorry for the poor english...
This is not "auto flower", this hapen with extra fine sativas. I had the same with Sri Lanka, Col Black, Kerala or this Zamal...
They simply don't know what is 18/6 or 24h of light in there natural environnement, they don't like it and can turn herma if you keep them too long like it.
You can make a cut and it will boost it and reveg well, or you can place it under 12/12 and it will reveg before flowering.
I had exactly the same zamal male that you describe that ShadaX gave me few years ago (the guy that preserve this zamal line since 2006), the seeds from this male are not automatic at all... it's just pur tropical sativa.
Zamal GN
Zamal GN x Malawi Gold
Vibes
Sorry for the poor english...
This is not "auto flower", this hapen with extra fine sativas. I had the same with Sri Lanka, Col Black, Kerala or this Zamal...
They simply don't know what is 18/6 or 24h of light in there natural environnement, they don't like it and can turn herma if you keep them too long like it.
You can make a cut and it will boost it and reveg well, or you can place it under 12/12 and it will reveg before flowering.
I had exactly the same zamal male that you describe that ShadaX gave me few years ago (the guy that preserve this zamal line since 2006), the seeds from this male are not automatic at all... it's just pur tropical sativa.
Zamal GN
Zamal GN x Malawi Gold
Vibes
according to the zamal breeders on Isle La Reunion there are up to 10 zamal varieties that they consider under the zamal "name tag". the auto carrot is one pheno and it keeps cropping up. Donald's carrot doesn't look auto to me. it looks like a carrot pheno though by his description. the French cannaweed site posts from zamal say the carrot ( not auto flower carrot) is the powerful trippy one so Donald looks like he's in for a treat.
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Hi.
I will post here one of the JDC texts of our friend Reunion Evergreen (crazy farmer ;-))
I quote:
Zamal (local name of which comes from the Cannabis Madagascar "ZAMALA").
The Zamal Reunion is a crop plant or naturalized, that is to say, which was introduced to the island by humans (there is a little more than two centuries) and which can multiply in the Nature without his intervention.
The island's colonial history that genetic sources Zamal are difficult to determine. The bulk of the genetic stock is probably of Indian origin (probably from the Coromandel Coast). Seeds brought from other regions are also possible: Pakistani, African strains (especially Mozambique or via the countries of the Muslim-Arab world), Madagascar, China and other countries bordiers the Indian Ocean basin. The development of air transport then reported the arrival likely last two or three decades of European cultivars.
Zamal genetics is in constant fluctuation because of its history and because the main cultivation method adopted on the island. The plants are grown outdoors and do not benefit from special care. Males or monoecious plants are sometimes belatedly uprooted and clean air conditions in the rugged terrain of the island are the volatile pollen is spread over great distances, resulting in a very active fertilization of female feet.
There is therefore no single Zamal but incalculable crowd of officials crosses a very unstable genetic (photo 09 and 10). The phenotype remains predominantly sativa type. This multiplicity finally rejoices consumers because for every "variety" there is a flavor, odor and a different effect. It should be noted against by a strong tendency to monoecy.
The drawback of these "hybrid" rest mainly slow and late flowering. Sometimes it takes between 9 and 12 months for a plant matures in outdoor.
The advantage lies in its effect deemed violent. A toxicological study conducted by Professor A. ***** r of the forensic institute in Strasbourg shows tetrahydrocannabinolic acid content, cannabidiol and cannabidiolic acid which is 0.2848%, respectively, 0.0055 % and 0.0014%. Other studies indicate that THC Zamal rate is usually between 15% and 30%.
That you know everything and thank you Evergreen
I believe the zamal heritage is a blend of several different strains (Africans being one, and speculation with historical documentation on the origins of the Africans originated) with lots of different expressions. we all like the nld types most but the wld influenced purple zamals I've been going thru have that all head soaring high despite their veg appearance. this high morphs into the trance like high after a while but is sometimes difficult to go to sleep on even several hours after the apparent high has dissipated.
pure zamal is probably nld dom though:
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Re,
Not at all ... the zamal is not any hemp grown ... it is a landrace.
A unique variety in the world with variations in phe (red filament, purple in the blast, mango-carrot) but it is a variety in itself.
The problem is that the last ten years, growers / traders have crossed the zamal with skunk notament to increase efficiency and shorten the flo (much like the introduction of Pakistani Indica in Morocco).
So that now it is increasingly difficult to find zamal "pure" unless you conaissez a farmer who does that to anytime since (like Gramoun 'high).
On the pictures (that I could see in miniature on their profile), it's actually a sativa, but it might as well be Thai, Colombian, Mexican, African as Reunion.
So without provenance, and again, and no one can confirm that is indeed Zamal.
If it is harvestable within 3-5 months flo is not zamal. http://www.cannaweed.com/topic/6500-topic-unique-variete-tropicale-le-zamal/page-4?hl=zamal
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Hi.
I will post here one of the JDC texts of our friend Reunion Evergreen (crazy farmer ;-))
I quote:
Zamal (local name of which comes from the Cannabis Madagascar "ZAMALA").
The Zamal Reunion is a crop plant or naturalized, that is to say, which was introduced to the island by humans (there is a little more than two centuries) and which can multiply in the Nature without his intervention.
The island's colonial history that genetic sources Zamal are difficult to determine. The bulk of the genetic stock is probably of Indian origin (probably from the Coromandel Coast). Seeds brought from other regions are also possible: Pakistani, African strains (especially Mozambique or via the countries of the Muslim-Arab world), Madagascar, China and other countries bordiers the Indian Ocean basin. The development of air transport then reported the arrival likely last two or three decades of European cultivars.
Zamal genetics is in constant fluctuation because of its history and because the main cultivation method adopted on the island. The plants are grown outdoors and do not benefit from special care. Males or monoecious plants are sometimes belatedly uprooted and clean air conditions in the rugged terrain of the island are the volatile pollen is spread over great distances, resulting in a very active fertilization of female feet.
There is therefore no single Zamal but incalculable crowd of officials crosses a very unstable genetic (photo 09 and 10). The phenotype remains predominantly sativa type. This multiplicity finally rejoices consumers because for every "variety" there is a flavor, odor and a different effect. It should be noted against by a strong tendency to monoecy.
The drawback of these "hybrid" rest mainly slow and late flowering. Sometimes it takes between 9 and 12 months for a plant matures in outdoor.
The advantage lies in its effect deemed violent. A toxicological study conducted by Professor A. ***** r of the forensic institute in Strasbourg shows tetrahydrocannabinolic acid content, cannabidiol and cannabidiolic acid which is 0.2848%, respectively, 0.0055 % and 0.0014%. Other studies indicate that THC Zamal rate is usually between 15% and 30%.
That you know everything and thank you Evergreen
I believe the zamal heritage is a blend of several different strains (Africans being one, and speculation with historical documentation on the origins of the Africans originated) with lots of different expressions. we all like the nld types most but the wld influenced purple zamals I've been going thru have that all head soaring high despite their veg appearance. this high morphs into the trance like high after a while but is sometimes difficult to go to sleep on even several hours after the apparent high has dissipated.
pure zamal is probably nld dom though:
Quote:
Re,
Not at all ... the zamal is not any hemp grown ... it is a landrace.
A unique variety in the world with variations in phe (red filament, purple in the blast, mango-carrot) but it is a variety in itself.
The problem is that the last ten years, growers / traders have crossed the zamal with skunk notament to increase efficiency and shorten the flo (much like the introduction of Pakistani Indica in Morocco).
So that now it is increasingly difficult to find zamal "pure" unless you conaissez a farmer who does that to anytime since (like Gramoun 'high).
On the pictures (that I could see in miniature on their profile), it's actually a sativa, but it might as well be Thai, Colombian, Mexican, African as Reunion.
So without provenance, and again, and no one can confirm that is indeed Zamal.
If it is harvestable within 3-5 months flo is not zamal. http://www.cannaweed.com/topic/6500-topic-unique-variete-tropicale-le-zamal/page-4?hl=zamal
