Revival of the REVIVAL of the ULTIMATE SATIVA THREAD a.k.a R.U.S.T II

[Donald Mallard]

long time , what we talking 20 odd years ago now ,

i think i even grew seed from gear , maybe they did,nt germ from memory and i just tried .

what ever they were doing with the png to cure it fucked the seed i think .it was like a cob cure on it , the chocolate golden look wasn't it natural colour it was a cure process they were doing, or probably more lack of cure and then compressed . it certainly had a flavour profile too it though , a sweetness i cant put my finger on ...... specially so long ago now .

probably a bit of a sweat cure similar to the old thai stick , so yea likely similar results to the cobbing bb im thinking too .. sometimes its hard to get large amounts completely dry in the tropics with the humidity ... i hear they often put it in their chimney,,, yum ,, smokey buds ,, lol ..

 

[subrovka]

..don´t know if this girl is enough sativa for this thread but i wanted to show YOU ( ; ) )

Frencheese x GSC x Malawi

 

[Lesnah]

there is going to be different png strains just like different Mexican, laos, thai, viet, zamal, Colombo, many different indicas ( wld), etc...

I didn't realize that Australia was flooded wid png at one time. I have read bushweed's mm thread and there are posts there that png is in some mm strains. southern's png is actually a png red from what I can ascertain. amazing that some isn't available puro after that much png hit the market there.

i'm stoked on southern's png.

You and I both, the beans i created of the Nanan are from Cape TRIB/PNG dominant parents which both wreaked of straight lemony guava with black pepper. I was actually hoping for Haitian dominant parents but I kept getting the PNG pheno. Haven't popped the homemade beans yet but will once I'm up and running.

The high on the PNG is like good coke(according to my friends, I don't dabble in white).

 

[anurag]

Lesnah, The man from Southern Star told me to look for the wide-leaved, thicker -leaved plants for his favorites. Would you say this would be the Cape Tribulation/Haitian dominant? I might prefer this expression, if the PNG doms are like coke. Not a fan of cocaine, tried it in the 70's and hated it.

 

[baduy]

Hi anurag I'm pretty sure when Lesnah says it's like good coke he just means a very energetic head high with no stoney hangover.
For instance my body hates coke but loves "coke like" weed

 

[subrovka]

Malawi x Durban

Malawi x Durban

day 32

 

[Lesnah]

Lesnah, The man from Southern Star told me to look for the wide-leaved, thicker -leaved plants for his favorites. Would you say this would be the Cape Tribulation/Haitian dominant? I might prefer this expression, if the PNG doms are like coke. Not a fan of cocaine, tried it in the 70's and hated it.

He told me the wider leaved phenotypes are Haitian dominant. Both are very energetic, and you can clearly distinguish the Haitian from the Cape Tribulation/PNG specimans. I was under the impression that SSS dude preferred the Papua plants as per what I have read, but in my opinion they are both great depending on what your preferences are.

Hi anurag I'm pretty sure when Lesnah says it's like good coke he just means a very energetic head high with no stoney hangover.
For instance my body hates coke but loves "coke like" weed

Sorry my bad lol, Baduy is pretty much right...I should refer to it as herbal caffeine instead of "coke weed".

The Haitian side of Nanan, gave me an immediate rush of energy like doing a shot of caffeine. I'm talking like, the urge to do push-ups or get outside and walk around.....be active. Bud smells of White sage and green tea-ish. The smoke smells like lavender to me, kinda like a strong blue dream. Energy lasts about half an hour, depending on what you're doing I guess.

@ Anurag, don't be fooled by the "indica/WLD/BLD looking phenos, they pack energy. The skinnier leaf phenos smell like guava and lemons, totally different from the Haitian....also packs a punch, but kinda trippy in the sense that you feel the need to think and look at your surroundings etc. If you are looking for "trip" weed, the PNG would be a better fit than the Haitian.

 

[Donald Mallard]

Im still a little dubious about the story the breeder told on those seeds ,
i live not far from cape trib ,
so i have a insight into what goes on ...

the aboriginals are generally not growers ,
they also dont tend to form friendships with png folk ,
but they might tell you what you d like to hear,

aussie bush sativa , that could have some relation to png sativa in some cases ,
could also fill the description of what you guys have found in that hybrid and is easily found around cape trib .. ....

 

[Lesnah]

Im still a little dubious about the story the breeder told on those seeds ,
i live not far from cape trib ,
so i have a insight into what goes on ...

the aboriginals are generally not growers ,
they also dont tend to form friendships with png folk ,
but they might tell you what you d like to hear,

aussie bush sativa , that could have some relation to png sativa in some cases ,
could also fill the description of what you guys have found in that hybrid and is easily found around cape trib .. ....

Which is why i prefer to call it Cape Tribulation Sativa instead of Papua NG...whatever it is...i like it a lot. Straight Caribbean Guava with a good high, i dont care what it is as long as it keeps giving me that high and aroma i'm wit it.

 

[Donald Mallard]

Which is why i prefer to call it Cape Tribulation Sativa instead of Papua NG...whatever it is...i like it a lot. Straight Caribbean Guava with a good high, i dont care what it is as long as it keeps giving me that high and aroma i'm wit it.

cool ,, seems more accurate given where it was collected etc .. good form lesnah..

i have some i know are definitely from there ,
in time id like to try to reproduce them if they are any good ,
certainly worth saving ...

 

[Lesnah]

Yea man i read you meantion you've been gifted the real deal, i'll be keeping an eyewhen you get to popping those PNG's. There are many on these boards who consider you a legend with the trees you grow

 

[idiit]

Sorry my bad lol, Baduy is pretty much right...I should refer to it as herbal caffeine instead of "coke weed".

The Haitian side of Nanan, gave me an immediate rush of energy like doing a shot of caffeine. I'm talking like, the urge to do push-ups or get outside and walk around.....be active. Bud smells of White sage and green tea-ish. The smoke smells like lavender to me, kinda like a strong blue dream. Energy lasts about half an hour, depending on what you're doing I guess.

@ Anurag, don't be fooled by the "indica/WLD/BLD looking phenos, they pack energy. The skinnier leaf phenos smell like guava and lemons, totally different from the Haitian....also packs a punch, but kinda trippy in the sense that you feel the need to think and look at your surroundings etc. If you are looking for "trip" weed, the PNG would be a better fit than the Haitian.

^my take as well, lesnah except the Haitian high lasted a good long duration for us. several ppl smoked it. the terps on the Haitian were sweeter, more what commercial weed should taste like imo. the png dom terps were much more like the earthy, musky, spicey Africans with those profiles. however there was something special in a "prehistoric" old skool way about the cts/png dom smell and tastes.


I got another png non hermie male putting off pollen. I am not goin to run png hybrids. i'm going for the cts/png puro for personal smoke harvests. it's a "wait and see" how cts/png dom works out for me personal smoke wise. I can tell you I like it a lot and sense tremendous personal smoke phenos are to be found (possibly).

Originally Posted by Donald Mallard View Post

Im still a little dubious about the story the breeder told on those seeds ,
i live not far from cape trib ,
so i have a insight into what goes on ...

the aboriginals are generally not growers ,
they also dont tend to form friendships with png folk ,
but they might tell you what you d like to hear,

aussie bush sativa , that could have some relation to png sativa in some cases ,
could also fill the description of what you guys have found in that hybrid and is easily found around cape trib .. ....

^ I gots no problem wid that perspective. we don't know....

 

[Lesnah]

@ Idiit, I share your opinion..both genotypes in that hybrid are better by themselves. I also do prefer the Cape Trib over the Haitian, I'm assuming Haitian hasn't been "worked" as much as the Aussie side of the hybrid.

The Aussie sativa is top notch. If I had a good amount of it, it would get ripped out of my hands. It's an elegant smoke, Oz needs more recognition than what they get on the cannabis scene. Australian Sativas would make a huge impact if it were readily available in the states.

I have a cousin in DR(Dominican Republic) collecting bagseeds from local smoke he likes. I made sure to tell him not to confuse with "american weed" like Sour and Haze that are flooding the island now. My plan is to compare the dominican weed with the Haitian genotype of NB, see how similar it is. according to my cousin, the local weed smells spicy like cinnamon, so I'm hoping it hasn't been mixed with white widow/sour/haze/ etc.

He tells me that "Punto rojo" has been making rounds on the streets too so I guess Colombian weed is becoming the norm on the island as well. I don't know if he even knows that Punto Rojo is Colombian lol.

My main concern is; I hear local dealers spray Formaldehyde on their stash to give it a kick, reminds me of the 90's with all the PCP based Dusted cigs.

 

[nepalnt21]

if they sprayed formaldehyde on the buds, ppl would be dying left and right. formaldehyde in drugs is a myth.

 

[Lesnah]

if they sprayed formaldehyde on the buds, ppl would be dying left and right. formaldehyde in drugs is a myth.

I hope so, cuz that's just ridiculous...i mean, its actually more costly to lace weed with a solvent than to grow organic and natural outdoors. I'm guessing that's a cop out for dirt weed or a silly sales pitch.

 

[FireIn.TheSky]

if they sprayed formaldehyde on the buds, ppl would be dying left and right. formaldehyde in drugs is a myth.

There is formaldehyde in cigarettes. Not to get off topic.

 

[anurag]

Hey Lesnah, and baduy, Thanks for the info. I just looked back at the email from Southern, and I had remembered it wrong. It was suggested that I should look for the broader-leaved, but thinner-leaved plants, as they had the best smell and potency. Not sure if this describes the PNG or the Haitian, but when they are finally grown, I'll take two cuts from each female, and go from there. Right now, I'm enjoying the challenge of keeping Bodhi's Acapulco Gold and some Cherry Bomb controlled, height-wise. The AG is pretty easy, as it is real flexible, but the CB is stiffer, so I am trying the technique of rolling the stems and breaking them internally. It is working.

 

[Lesnah]

Thinner leaves smells great, straight fruits...it'll be hard to miss. keep us posted on those please

 

[MAHA KALA]

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[vermontman]

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