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Revival of the REVIVAL of the ULTIMATE SATIVA THREAD a.k.a R.U.S.T II

resin_lung

I cough up honey oil
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I've never heard of it. I googled it and see that you tube has some trailers. I'll give it a peek.
 

Lesnah

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i'm continuing to work the recessive ( in my seed stock I've run) and prone to hermie png red geneotypes from nanan bouclou to isolate the png/cts genetics in seed form.


the Nepalese sativa dom from mandala satori is also very special and I will post a report some time on her. she also has a Malawi type high effects and potency. very different in some ways from the cts/png high effects. the png/cts after a good cure smokes more narcotic. some of the Nepalese sativa buds are hard to get to sleep on. Nepalese sativa dom is more energetic and heady. the png/cts is mentally psychoactive and physical ( relaxing, interesting, narcotic, somewhat euphoric). duration of Nepalese sativa dom and cts/png dom is good and long ( easy 2.5+ hours).


this is what I really enjoy; personal smoke strains.


I like the terps of the cts/png but it is prehistoric old skool type terps that the new skool that likes cookies, breakfast cereal and candy tastes to their cannabis would probably not appreciate. I love good cigars and the png/cts is akin to a great cigar cannabis style after a good cure. smells and tastes like a dank barn if you know that premium, aged cigar box smell.


i'm making a strong effort to understanding today's customer's taste preferences. I no longer consider png/cts dom as a good commercial strain since my taste preferences do not lean towards breakfast cereal, cookies, candy, fruity exclusively in my preferred cannabis smoke. I do like those flavors but taste for personal smoke is not all that important to me and I like terps that new skool hates from what I can understand from my research into commercial strains desired in today's markets.


if I had to describe png/cts dom in one word i would use "prehistoric". while I was smoking her I would keep getting the descriptor "dark" in my head as in "dark continent" dope.

I just came from a Cigar Lounge in Harlem NY, and was telling my girl how the puro I was smoking had a similar smell to the Nanan Bouclou. I can see where you are coming from Id, the Haitian side smells like sage. The PNG side smells like hickory wood/black pepper/guava/lemon rind. But the exhale has a more rich cigar(smoked earth) aroma.

I'm happy with the "prehistoric" smoke, while in Cali...I tasted all the Girl Scout/gelato/skittles and it was fruity smelling with oats etc....but the exhaled smoke was pretty bland.

The Uptown Haze became famous due to it's "exhaled smoke" which smelled of frankincense, not because the bud itself smelled like Fruity Loops.
 

idiit

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interdimensional time travel. Do it enough and it eventually gets harder and harder to completely return as the person you were

sounds 'mental' to skeptics but ^this thought has crossed my mind a few times.

I like 'epic evenings'. I judge the best smoko by the evening I had on it. potency, high effects, taste.... yeah, but it comes down to how memorable the experience was in a good or bad way.

I think most of the regulars on this thread agree that the best sativas can be very enjoyable and sometimes useful teaching tools. no indicas that I've smoked can do that but some sativas wid wld influence can.

where do I go for minutes up to hours on the most psychoactive sativas ( including wld influenced ones)?

modern mathematics string theory believes in alternate/parallel universes.

Parallel Universe string theory



According to the theory, our own universe is like a bubble that exists alongside similar parallel universes. Unlike the Many-Worlds theory, string theory supposes that these universes can come into contact with one another. String theory says that gravity can flow between these parallel universes.
http://science.howstuffworks.com/science-vs-myth/everyday-myths/parallel-universe3.htm

idiit's theory of epic sativas says ppl under the influence of a great sativa can possibly flow cognitively into other less physical but nevertheless real in some way parallel realities. wanna go back? smoke another bowl. :)
 

Dr.Young

K+ vibes
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Tesla said it best
science-is-a-religion-substituted-mathematics-tesla-quote.jpg
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Just saying this in fun btw
 

Donald Mallard

el duck
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this girl has broken free of her bonds now ,
touching the cage on all sides , still a bit more to go i think ,
flowering is a few weeks off yet ...

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the png gold i had as a lad was very fruity stuff ,
and very resiny ,
the high was very uplifting and memorable ,, with a delicious taste ,
was hard to grow tired of , something you could have everyday ...

a good friend gave me a few png seeds recently ,
collected just outside Port Moresby apparently..
Im keen to give them a run soon ,
but just put some super laos in , so png might be next in line...
 

resin_lung

I cough up honey oil
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I really like the growth habit of those zamal plants. I know they can be unruly but I dig them. Did you reproduce the line for yourself or are you still burning through those seeds from a friend. she's gonna be a beast!
 

Dog Star

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Pure PNG seeds will be charm to buy or found somewhere...

than i made cross of Acapulco Gold x PNG... ;) or vice versa PNG x Acapulco Gold..

but off course will love to grow her also in a pure form.
Hope Donald you preserve her for a good of all of us..

Kind regards
 

Donald Mallard

el duck
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I really like the growth habit of those zamal plants. I know they can be unruly but I dig them. Did you reproduce the line for yourself or are you still burning through those seeds from a friend. she's gonna be a beast!
hey resin lung ,
still the same seed as the last run ,
from the gn zamal ,
i have a male doing some work ,
frisky little chap he is ,, lol ...
 

JACKBAYBEH

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sounds 'mental' to skeptics but ^this thought has crossed my mind a few times.

I like 'epic evenings'. I judge the best smoko by the evening I had on it. potency, high effects, taste.... yeah, but it comes down to how memorable the experience was in a good or bad way.

I think most of the regulars on this thread agree that the best sativas can be very enjoyable and sometimes useful teaching tools. no indicas that I've smoked can do that but some sativas wid wld influence can.

where do I go for minutes up to hours on the most psychoactive sativas ( including wld influenced ones)?

modern mathematics string theory believes in alternate/parallel universes.


idiit's theory of epic sativas says ppl under the influence of a great sativa can possibly flow cognitively into other less physical but nevertheless real in some way parallel realities. wanna go back? smoke another bowl. :)

"epic evenings", that's a great term for it! lol I know exactly what you mean. Effect is first and for most to me. But, that effect has to be the kind that takes me to that "special place". Not just get you "high" but be that special chemotype that produces an amazing, sometimes dare I say, transformative experience.
I have never personally had an "experience" like that while smoking pure WLDs. Raw potency, smell, taste... all secondary. If I find a variety that can deliver an epic evening it doesn't matter to me if it smokes like dog shit. Try explaining that to the Kush lovers in your circle. lol I tell them all the time that you'll never open up your third eye toking on all those broad leaf vars. :biggrin:
I use to run a girl that was a cross of the old StrawberryBlonde from SOL that had been pollinated by a NevHaze male. This was like 2000. This was special occasion herb. The kind you only smoked when you were prepared to have an epic evening. It hit me right every time and would transport me to that special place. Time meant nothing and I would lose all track of it. I would come to and realize that what had felt like hours had been mere minutes or vise versa. The first time I smoked her I took 3 good tokes and decided to take a shower. Came to an hour and a half later. Spaced out, sitting in the corner of the shower with the water running ice cold. lol Been in love with Sattys ever since. :tiphat:
 

ctg

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I ran strawberry blonde x rom one time. Was excellent herb wish I would have held onto it and sent it out.. tasted of old school Colombian gold and was heart racing panic weed. Excellent.
 

ThaiBliss

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I use to run a girl that was a cross of the old StrawberryBlonde from SOL that had been pollinated by a NevHaze male. This was like 2000. This was special occasion herb. The kind you only smoked when you were prepared to have an epic evening. It hit me right every time and would transport me to that special place. Time meant nothing and I would lose all track of it. I would come to and realize that what had felt like hours had been mere minutes or vise versa. The first time I smoked her I took 3 good tokes and decided to take a shower. Came to an hour and a half later. Spaced out, sitting in the corner of the shower with the water running ice cold. lol Been in love with Sattys ever since. :tiphat:

I remember Strawberry Blonde. I got it from Vancouver. Strawberry Blonde, Neville's Haze, and El Nino were the only ones out of about $2,000.00 worth of seed that I look back fondly on. El Nino was like old school Mexican laughing weed. Gave it up due to very bad hermaphrodism. Strawberry Blonde was strong, but a bit on the stony side. It tasted wonderful, and expanded in the lungs in a good way like hash. Neville's Haze was the trippiest and like Thai and mushrooms. That is the one I kept and bred.

Thanks for bringing back those memories. I was trying to remember the Strawberry Blonde name not too long ago.

ThaiBliss
 
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BAKED_BEANZ

i just saw mention of png gold , mmmm fond memories . its been long time and i miss a very dear old friend thinking of it .

we smoked so much of this gear back in the day , unfolding full foxtail branches of chocolate sticky coated buds out of compressed pounds almost like it was coated in syrup or caramelised .....
 
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JACKBAYBEH

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I ran strawberry blonde x rom one time. Was excellent herb wish I would have held onto it and sent it out.. tasted of old school Colombian gold and was heart racing panic weed. Excellent.

Sounds like the STBB x NevHz. Heart palpitations were common part of the initial rush. Rocket to the moon then gradually float back down to earth and walk away fairly clean. Just a beautiful effect and very long lasting. Give up a lot of what I have now to get that one back, no doubt.

Thanks for bringing back those memories. I was trying to remember the Strawberry Blonde name not too long ago. ThaiBliss

Man, I wish I would have gotten some of those seeds of Strawberry Blonde back then. The cross had a great flav also. I would have to say that the cross leaned toward the Strawberry Blonde with the NevHz making itself known in the effect. Flowered for 12 weeks.
Good memories fo sho!
 

Donald Mallard

el duck
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i just saw mention of png gold , mmmm fond memories . its been long time and i miss a very dear old friend thinking of it .

we smoked so much of this gear back in the day , unfolding full foxtail branches of chocolate sticky coated buds out of compressed pounds almost like it was coated in syrup or caramelised .....
nice memories hey bb ,
me too ,, fond memories of that sticky stuff ,
i think other than the modern stuff ,
it was the most resin laden i had come across ...

i have some png seed recently given to me ,
ill give them a go as soon as im able ,
seeds are alway so exciting imo ,
for the treasures they may reveal ...

i submitted some png seed for the phylos dna test ,
apparently no relation to anything yet tested,
so i think theres certainly some gems in there that we can use ..
 

idiit

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there is going to be different png strains just like different Mexican, laos, thai, viet, zamal, Colombo, many different indicas ( wld), etc...

I didn't realize that Australia was flooded wid png at one time. I have read bushweed's mm thread and there are posts there that png is in some mm strains. southern's png is actually a png red from what I can ascertain. amazing that some isn't available puro after that much png hit the market there.

i'm stoked on southern's png.
 
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BAKED_BEANZ

nice memories hey bb ,
me too ,, fond memories of that sticky stuff ,
i think other than the modern stuff ,
it was the most resin laden i had come across ...

i have some png seed recently given to me ,
ill give them a go as soon as im able ,
seeds are alway so exciting imo ,
for the treasures they may reveal ...

i submitted some png seed for the phylos dna test ,
apparently no relation to anything yet tested,
so i think theres certainly some gems in there that we can use ..
long time , what we talking 20 odd years ago now ,

i think i even grew seed from gear , maybe they did,nt germ from memory and i just tried .

what ever they were doing with the png to cure it fucked the seed i think .it was like a cob cure on it , the chocolate golden look wasn't it natural colour it was a cure process they were doing, or probably more lack of cure and then compressed . it certainly had a flavour profile too it though , a sweetness i cant put my finger on ...... specially so long ago now .
 
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Donald Mallard

el duck
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there is going to be different png strains just like different Mexican, laos, thai, viet, zamal, Colombo, many different indicas ( wld), etc...

I didn't realize that Australia was flooded wid png at one time. I have read bushweed's mm thread and there are posts there that png is in some mm strains. southern's png is actually a png red from what I can ascertain. amazing that some isn't available puro after that much png hit the market there.

i'm stoked on southern's png.
they swapped weed for guns for a while idiit,
so a fair bit of png weed made it here ,
even to the further southern cities where i was at the time..

moon unit collected the png seed he used in zoidfuel from imported png cannabis ,
and i also grew some , as im sure many folk did ...
it would certainly be in the genepool here still ,
though many in oz discarded their longer maturing sativa for early maturing skunk type strains ,
thinking they were worthless ....
and now i bet they want them back ,, lol ..
 

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