Revised Vertical Areo

[KingRalph]

jungles are a good thing BB! man the buds are chunky every time, n sorry to hear ya lost a couple rows, but hey if it ran perfectly every time things might get boring n ya'd stop learnin n havin stuff to tinker with, jah forbid! as always thanks for sharin your progress man, you gotta know by now ya have the best homemade system around... keep it up, peace n green thumbs

 

[betterboy]

Thanks king, sucked to lose the 2 top rows over a couple bucks of take offs, but lesson learned!

 

[betterboy]

Hi guy!
I veg usually 8-12 days but that will depend on your plants, ya dont want them to get to big, never more than 12" before 12/12, also I have a round wire cage I hang on hooks inside over the cool tubes so the plants dont lean over to far
I think I'll check out that bushmaster, 2 weeks early would be great and it dont sound like ya lost any weight , thats pretty much what I average but think it could be tweaked to push out more. My plants usually finnish out at bout 20-24" tall.
congrads on the grow sounds like ya did good and glad ya enjoyed the thread

 

[macster]

Better boy you out there

 

[iLuv2BlAzE]

I DONT MEAN TO ASK A SILLY QUESTION BUT IM NOT TOO FAMILIAR THE STRAINS YOU MIND SPELLING THEM OUT AND WHERE THEY COME FROM ? SORRY TO BE A PAIN BOSS !

 

[iLuv2BlAzE]

ANOTHER THING YOU NEVER GAVE WHAT YOU NEEDED TO BUILD THE CAGE THAT HOLD THE OCTAGON LIKE HOW MANY T'S HOW MANY 38" AND 361/2 " PIECES WE WAS GOING TO NEED TO SUPPORT THE THING ???? AND HOW DID YOU MOUUNT YOUR LIGHT ???? actually i did some math an tell me if its correct for the frame that holds the octagon

1 inch pvc for frame like my friend said
12x 38"
12x 36 1/2"
24x 3"
48 x T's
4 x 11" ( legs ) ?


i dont mean to bombard ya thread but im just trying to clear it up a lil for our fellow friends that might be confused a little correct me if im wrong peace an luv!

 

[karynne]

luv2blaze thats the fun part, youll have to go to like three different home depots or something.

but BB this is an awesome build, makes me rethink my vertical hydro. I am interested to see what sort of weight you get from this one. I am implementing co2 into mine, have you considered that now that you are this far?

 

[ItsAllOver]

And this just... died?

 

[Carcharodon]

altough dead for a long time, this thread still contains valuable info. Bookmarked!

 

[Dr happy]

[QUOTE
got them from dripworks, cheaper to buy on line as opposed to ordering from their catalog, 68 cents ea. on line $1.10 ea if ya call the order in.[/QUOTE]

are they called Tornado Mister
http://www.dripworksusa.com/store/eindor.php#MEBARB
?
OR is it another model ?

thanks in advance bro

 

[blueberrydrumz]

Hi Peeps,
greet thread, some good info here!
I got some Questions though, do u think this system would work with the pipes running verticaly? For Example having Nutrient Feed from the top into Vertical Tubes with short 45* Degree Angle pieces that hold the net pots, spaced inbetween the normal pipes??
something like this: (very basic diagram lol)

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My querys are:
1. are the roots goin to be able to take up enough nutrients with the water flowing down so quick? I could adjust the flow so its very slow and have long watering periods.

2. are the roots goin to be healthy with too much air?? - They shouldnt dry up if i time the pump say every 1-2 hrs and with the roots "hanging" in the tube they will be airieated alot during the "dry" periods right

thx in advance...

 

[TommyTwoColas]

Hi Peeps,
greet thread, some good info here!
I got some Questions though, do u think this system would work with the pipes running verticaly? For Example having Nutrient Feed from the top into Vertical Tubes with short 45* Degree Angle pieces that hold the net pots, spaced inbetween the normal pipes??
something like this: (very basic diagram lol)

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... and so on

My querys are:
1. are the roots goin to be able to take up enough nutrients with the water flowing down so quick? I could adjust the flow so its very slow and have long watering periods.

2. are the roots goin to be healthy with too much air?? - They shouldnt dry up if i time the pump say every 1-2 hrs and with the roots "hanging" in the tube they will be airieated alot during the "dry" periods right

thx in advance...

1) I have the system that you're describing (15 columns, 6 wyes per column for 90 plants, all surrounding 4 stacked 600s) - yes, the roots can take up enough nutrients. I'd highly, highly, highly recommend filling the columns with hydroton, perlite, or coco chips (my new fave) and running it on the same timing as a standard E&F setup (one "flood" per day when they're little, ramping up to 8-10 short feedings per day when they're in full flower).

2) See post #1, but if running sans media, the roots shouldn't dry out - PVC keeps lots and lots of moisture in. I ran HP aero in them and that was *kinda* possible, so LP aero/NFT would be fairly easy. Depending on the height of your columns, if LP aero I'd seriously think about running two misters per column.

Can't stress enough how much I think doing DTW (which obviously requires media) is a wayyyyyyyy better option than anything recirculating in this system.

Good luck.

 

[5th]

1)Can't stress enough how much I think doing DTW (which obviously requires media) is a wayyyyyyyy better option than anything recirculating in this system.

I'm not bashing aero, LP or True aero. Proven ways to grow.

But I'll disagree with ya on this one Tommy. Any media is a waste of time and money (I'm well aware its nessesary evil for alot of set ups)....and drain to waste...well thats why it says waste in the title.

On my last run with this rig I tried hydroton in the netpots and used neoprene inserts to hold the plants upright with nothing in my tubes. (by week three of stretch the roots should be entwined enuff to support the plant without the netpot anyways.) I wanted the ability to be able to pull plants out to examine roots as I was sure root rot was going to be a concern, maybe bugs. (it wasn't) And that wouldn't be possible with any medium in the tubes. I didn't care for the hydroton falling out at the stems thickened....but its managable. (I wear shoes now....fuckin' lil hydroton ball bastards)

Cheap and efficient is a water pump pumping nutes to the top tube and letting gravity do the rest no? Clogged sprayers, leaking tubes...so many hours of drilling and fitting....fuck that noise bro. I've found as long as your clones roots can touch the bottom of the tube....your golden.

 

[TommyTwoColas]

5th, DTW actually uses LESS nutes than a recirculating system (I aim for ~10% runoff).

Also, if you know what you're doing, the chances of getting root rot (my new favorite mix is coco chips in the bottom four wyes, and then a 50/50 coir/chip mix in the top two wyes) are virtually nil.

Here's what my rig looked like a little over a year ago running HP aero (looks the same today on the outside, just with lots less wires and tubing ):

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=204946

Now I have a simple PVC manifold with dripline (no emitters to clog, simple 1/4" drip line feeding each column) feeding my coco. Fresh nutes every time, no issues, ever.

To each their own...........when I wasn't working and had time to spend hours a day futzing with HP/LP aero setups and that stuff it was fun (and a nice time killer), but to have a life (IMO, that means the ability to let my garden go for days at a time sans worry) working full time, actively looking for another job, starting an Internet distributor, and getting ready for my first child in November............well, I'll do coco DTW all day

 

[5th]

I like the rig man, good stuff.

I'm with you on the no probs for days at a time. Especially when your a busy guy. I'm def not knocking the DTW bro. I'm watching guys kill it here.

To each their own is right...if we all ran the same set up this place would suck.

 

[melone]

Hello . I need advice Posi necessarily want to build high-pressure system but I did not want to use plastics for the main distribution ie, connecting expansion tanks, regulator, filter and ..... read somewhere here that the metal in the system changes the ph of water .. here thinking that I use stainless steel or brass ..

* thanks for the reply