Retail?

[Jhhnn]

conceptually.... the computer tracking system would be able to alert stores of customers AND patients who have already purchased their daily "allotment"
BUT
that ain't happening....
i think this is a loophole purposefully left open, like the jaws of a bear trap... let the dispensaries and customers/patients think all is well with selling WAY OVER the limit... then SNAP, the trap slaps shut on those trying to sidestep regulations.

Interesting. I don't think it's that at all. Tourists have the same street possession limit as residents. Obviously, then, they have the right to obtain that limit, even if they engage in 4 transactions to do it. With no way to know, merchants can't be held liable for what the customer possesses, anyway, but rather only for the conduct of a given sale. It's all cash, & no customer records are kept other than video. It's like beer. You might have to show ID, but nobody writes anything down. Come back an hour later, and the guy won't even recognize you. At least he'll say he didn't, and nobody can prove it's not true.

 

[Avinash.miles]

im not talking about transactions to obtain the limit, Jhhnn, thought i made that clear, Im talking about customers making purchases in order to obtain vastly more quantity than legally allowed to purchase or possess without proper paperwork.

I'm also not sayin that this kind of regulatory oversight DOES or even ever WILL exist, but it seems to be written into the rules to imply that it someday could exists... if only to appease the feds into believing that colorado state gov has some form of control over whats going on out here with all these ganja plants. The state is definitely concerned with computerizing all inventory and in some ways "tracking" where that inventory goes in wholesale transactions.... and prior to all these new rec and new med rules.... the rules outlined in 1284 (who the fuck knows where they all stand now) implied that the state wanted dispensaries to be able to identify to which patients herb was being sold and in what quanitities.

anyone familiar with the big bust surrounding jane medicinals? part of their indictment involved budtenders selling (AND being told by management/owners) to sell people more than their limit....

I'm not in favor at all of these possession limits, considering i cant even FIND any law concerning the possession limits of alcohol, aside from where you can and can't have it. I'm referring to possession quanitity limits, im sure there is a limit to how much booze or beer you can possess, i'm sure its a fucking shitload compared to the one ounce rec and 2 ounces (standard) to med patients.

 

[Jhhnn]

I get that it's easy to find implications that likely will come to nothing. Colorado voters stripped state authorities of the power to wage the marijuana war as we've known it. The feds lack the resources to carry it forward w/o their help in any form we might recognize. It's probably harder for people who played the med card game to realize that. It's over. I think that the state needs to make an effective effort to see that MJ grown under license ends up in the market place through approved channels & in approved amounts. That's what the feds want to see. After retail taxes, I doubt that there's sufficient markup left to attract serious export resellers. What leaves the State through retail will be personal stash & very small time action, I suspect. It's impossible to stop that, particularly for Colorado authorities.

I think those are the goals & expectations of Law Enforcement going in, and that they'll find enough large illegal action to keep 'em busy. Unless something changes, smart, skillful & well capitalized operators who play it by the book have little to fear, and retail buyers even less. That's in-State. I'm sure that neighboring States will increase vigilance wrt people leaving Colorado. Just more ball breaking opportunities for them. Expect more hassles from that quarter

We're legit. We made them give up fucking with us, for the most part. We had a lot of help in that from people who don't indulge, too.

Everybody gets to re-adjust their headgear as a paradigm shift occurs. A64 is that paradigm shift. Quite where it's going nobody knows, but it'll never go back to the way it was. The various provisions of A64 anchors marijuana legalization in Colorado in a way that's basically irreversible. Only a vote of the People can turn it around, and I can't see that happening. Colorado Anti-MJ forces are just screwed, and they know it. Unless something goes horribly wrong, they won't be allowed to interfere with the market processes of providing herb to the masses or with the process of home growers providing herb to themselves. Their rearguard efforts will shortly be swept away, overwhelmed & buried by residents & millions of people eager to try all of what Colorado offers. They'll carry the word home, too, hopefully leading to the end of the marijuana war everywhere. Colorado's tourist industry will see to all of that. In certain respects, I think it's the tourist industry that made us sufficiently tolerant & respectful of others to lead the legalization effort.

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

I just wanna wish all the retail shops good luck and I hope the feds leave you alone. thanks for taking the first steps and big risks. I hope you profit from it and help improve the national scene.

 

[barnyard]

Buying from multiple Cannabis Centers won't be an issue, but if a person is caught by L.E. with over their allotted weight they will be more fucked than ever .Please everyone keep this in mind.

Thanks Hash. Yes a lot of people have put their lives on the line to make this happen. I've personally stood up in court for both of the centers nearest me and would not have done so unless the owners and staff were righteous people.

Now I just need to stop freaking out and running and putting away all my MJ supplies when I have a visitor at the door! lol

 

[Avinash.miles]

westword article :
"Marijuana: Fourteen Denver stores and other Colorado spots that could sell pot January 1"
http://blogs.westword.com/latestword/2013/12/marijuana_denver_recreational.php

 

[MrDanky]

watch out for the false flags! that will end everything real quick! fucking randoms walking into retail shops… if i was running anything in that town it would surely have multiple cameras in multiple spots… i would also have armed security at least for the month of january.. are there laws that prohibit armed security? i sure hope not…

 

[Eureka Springs Organics]

watch out for the false flags! that will end everything real quick! fucking randoms walking into retail shops… if i was running anything in that town it would surely have multiple cameras in multiple spots… i would also have armed security at least for the month of january.. are there laws that prohibit armed security? i sure hope not…

Garden of the Gods (over by riverrock)has armed security with bullet proof vests. Paramilitary style. They are very intimidating when you walk in. Their viewing window however is nothing short of awesome. They had about 10-12 trimmers going at it when I was there.

Unfortunately they also had a couple of trimming machines. Impressive set up though.

 

[Jhhnn]

westword article :
"Marijuana: Fourteen Denver stores and other Colorado spots that could sell pot January 1"
http://blogs.westword.com/latestword/2013/12/marijuana_denver_recreational.php

Thank you for that. I'm thinking that Evergreen Apothecary might suit my purposes. It's my part of the City, and William Breathed seemed to like the place, particularly the sativas, so there it is. I'll call 'em later today to confirm. 303-722-1227 for anybody interested.

I'm not sure how the usual selection process will mix with large crowds. I do expect crowds, given the limited number of outlets. Some people seem to think that nobody matters but them once they get to the front of the line, if you know what I mean. Fortunately, most of us are a bit more perceptive.

I think retail will be great for a lot of people, even personal growers. Hell, particularly personal growers. I can sample more kinds at retail than I can ever grow, get a better idea of what I want to grow. A lot of newer growers, like me, were never part of the med scene, so we have a lot of exploring to do.

 

[Avinash.miles]

I'll probably be hitting up denver kush club, got some pretty good sssdh last time i went there....
everyone enjoy getting your first taste of legal herbs! i can't believe tomorrw is... tomorrow!!!

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

^I hope it will be a joyous historical day for the entire USA

 

[wolfiehowlin]

The Denver Post website (Dec 24th) has a list of the retail weed establishments that were sent out 136 STATE licences yesterday. The shops still must meet the county/municipal requirements where ever they are before they can open. www.DenverPost.com/news/ci_24784227/ and that is a damn slow web site. In other news Denver CITY council voted to decriminilize possession of less than 1 oz. of weed by those under 21 years of age.

Adding 3D to the list, on Brighton Blvd just south of I70.

Fron the article you linked ....
"We're seeing ... a massive marijuana industry growing before our eyes," said Kevin Sabet, who is with a national anti-marijuana group called Project SAM. "I hope it's not going to be too late before we realize that the road we're on is going to produce a massive public health problem and public safety problem in Colorado."

I'm sure he must be basing his statement on the massive public health and safety problems in places like Amsterdam and Vancouver. What a freaking tool.

Wolfie
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[wolfiehowlin]

I think retail will be great for a lot of people, even personal growers. Hell, particularly personal growers. I can sample more kinds at retail than I can ever grow, get a better idea of what I want to grow. A lot of newer growers, like me, were never part of the med scene, so we have a lot of exploring to do.

He he, ditto to that sampling process Jhhnn. I don't have much space for gardening, so want to make sure I get the best "ROI" and yield. It will certainly be nice to have access to good seeds without having to travel out of state! Won't keep me from visiting AMS from time to time though, since I like the vibe of the city and have some friends there.

Happy New Year!
Wolfie

 

[wolfiehowlin]

I heard from the owner of the Telluride bud company they will be open to the general public at 10:00 am Jan. 1
Fantastic news for SW COLO since durango city leaders have no balls!

Seems to me they've got huge balls! After all, they are going AGAINST the will of the people who put them in office, likely by a lesser margin than A64 passed by. I wonder if any of them paid attention to what happened to those who went against even the minority of the people in CO this year? Two successful recalls and a resignation (pre-emptive).

Having fun watching CNN covering guys loading bud baggies, LOL.

Happy New Year!
Wolfie

 

[wolfiehowlin]

Oops, me bad. Denver CITY council passes vote to decriminalize possession of 1 oz. or less for those people of age of over 18 and under 21.

That fixes a BIG gap in the treatment under the law, since 18-21 year olds were treated like terrorists when everyone else got a pass. Seems bad enough they are treated differently on so many other issues. They can still get a med card though.

Happy New Year
Wolfie

 

[wolfiehowlin]

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Moral of the story, this is going to be a giant cluster fuck.

Well, ESO, I hope it doesn't get too bad. As always is the case, hype leads to hysteria, so a bit of "humans acting stupid" should be expected. Let's just hope it doesn't rise to the level of "Black Friday." There is one I will never participate in, and I don't plan to be standing in any lines for "Green Wednesday" either. After all, in private, it's been legal for us since last NYE.

Cheers and Happy New Year! Hope your business benefits from this.
Wolfie

 

[Jhhnn]

Adding 3D to the list, on Brighton Blvd just south of I70.

Fron the article you linked ....
"We're seeing ... a massive marijuana industry growing before our eyes," said Kevin Sabet, who is with a national anti-marijuana group called Project SAM. "I hope it's not going to be too late before we realize that the road we're on is going to produce a massive public health problem and public safety problem in Colorado."

I'm sure he must be basing his statement on the massive public health and safety problems in places like Amsterdam and Vancouver. What a freaking tool.

Wolfie
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Well, yeh, except that real tokers bear little resemblance to his imaginary ones. Legalization just brings all that out in the open. I think he'll be very disappointed in reality, when none of his predictions of Doom come true. Or he'll just move on to fluffing up some other aspect of right wing propaganda. If he's not a professional in that regard, he sure as hell wants to be one, a paid mouthpiece.

 

[mack 10]

Wow nearly there, Wish I could join you in buying for recreational use!
what a day...
Can you say LEGAL!!!!

 

[420mt]

Never thought I would live to see the day.. here is some great info just posted today at Noon,, 64 answers to Colorado pot laws most asked questions


http://www.denverpost.com/marijuana/ci_24823785/colorado-marijuana-guide-64-answers-commonly-asked-questions

 

[Eureka Springs Organics]

Just got a report from a shop that they are seeing out of towners like crazy. A ton of people have flown in for this. They said they are slammed with people that they can't sell to yet.

Tomorrow is going to be interesting.