Quit Alcohol - Support Thread

[m314]

ive heard of phenibut.its a UK thing right? dont you have to take big doses?

Phenibut is a prescription drug for alcoholism in Russia. It's sold in the US as a dietary supplement. You can buy it online for cheap and get it delivered the next day. They even have it at Vitamin Shoppe, the last time I was there anyway.

You need a milligram scale to weigh it. They're under $20 on amazon. The standard dose to prevent alcohol withdrawal is 250 mg 3 or 4 times a day. You can taper off once you feel stable at a certain dose. You can take more, but it can be addictive in higher doses. Baclofen has the advantage of not being addictive except for the physical dependence.

If you switch from alcohol to either phenibut or baclofen, you'll have to taper off to avoid withdrawal. Tapering off either one is way easier than trying to taper off alcohol directly.

 

[krunchbubble]

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[shithawk420]

thanks m314 it sounds expensive but ill look into it.

 

[GET MO]

On june 20th i made a decision to stop drinking. I didny tell anyone, just said i was taking a break. During the summer i grew my beard out, stuck to myself, began a workout ruuitine, and started reading books (so far the alchemist, mastery, and influence: psychology of pursuation were best). Spuritual growth all around, the transformation has felt great.i put down the weed and norcos as well. I find that, when facing addiction, i always felt like i wasnt right when i wasnt on something. Like i needed it to be myself. After stopping one realizes they can be themselves without these substances, or better yet, someone better. What u consume does not define your character, and you can change your outer character, but to do so u must change your inner character. Reading becomes empowering when u realize the wisdom in some of these books, things u learn n can never again unlearn. When u exercise it builds your confidence in yourself.
I ha e since had a drink last week on my birthday, got a little faded, and sharp, and i have aactuallycome to t like it. It felt fake and forced, a felt like my mind wasnt on point, jumbly. Ive becme addicted to having my mind sharp and on point.
The next day i felt ackward and like i had done something wrong, even tho i really hadnt, and the headache, lord! Im now addicted to being sober, and feel great! I have been drinking way too much yerba mate tho, probbly not good for me but WAY better than booze.
Anyone can do it! But if you choose to make sure u Do it for youself.

 

[McFreedom]

I had a drinking problem years ago, but got over that through change of lifestyle. However, recently I used to like to drink a few beers every day after work and often go through quite a few on weekends. I first tried Cannabis in May this year. Since then I've probably had less than 10 beers. I just don't feel the need for it even though I have plenty of beer left my fridge. I realise this is not everybody's experience, but this is mine. Long live the herb!

 

[angelgoob]

Being drunk or high should be treasured and not be a problem.

Having cannabis in one's life make one drink less sometimes, and for them now alcohol can now be a pleasure.

Alcohol though when it hits you, you want to drink more and more. I don't claim to understand though.

Although i learned about phenibut. isn't that a gaba receptor actor.

Sorry I can't be of more help. I know that benzodiazepines help with withdrawal, but are also a drug themselves!

 

[Stoner4Life]

 

[vaporizeWa]

I second that notion BRAVO

 

[shithawk420]

got back from the ER a couple days ago.couldnt stop throwing up.turns out i have gastritis.doctor said if i dont quit drinking im gonna die.well looks like im dead man walking cause i cant quit.only thing that makes me happy.to all you guys that did quit you have my respect.buddy ive known all my life just died a few weeks ago from drugs and alcohol.only 55

 

[krunchbubble]

got back from the ER a couple days ago.couldnt stop throwing up.turns out i have gastritis.doctor said if i dont quit drinking im gonna die.well looks like im dead man walking cause i cant quit.only thing that makes me happy.to all you guys that did quit you have my respect.buddy ive known all my life just died a few weeks ago from drugs and alcohol.only 55

Are you in Sunnyvale,Ca?

Ill buy some baclofen and drive it to you....

 

[Green Squall]

got back from the ER a couple days ago.couldnt stop throwing up.turns out i have gastritis.doctor said if i dont quit drinking im gonna die.well looks like im dead man walking cause i cant quit.only thing that makes me happy.to all you guys that did quit you have my respect.buddy ive known all my life just died a few weeks ago from drugs and alcohol.only 55

You need to do something and stop talking like that. You might not think it but people around here DO care. Your somewhat young right? I think your around my age. Lots of life left to live.

There has to be some kind of treatment you can get into. Maybe talk to a social worker or something if $$ is an issue.

 

[Ph-patrol]

got back from the ER a couple days ago.couldnt stop throwing up.turns out i have gastritis.doctor said if i dont quit drinking im gonna die.well looks like im dead man walking cause i cant quit.only thing that makes me happy.to all you guys that did quit you have my respect.buddy ive known all my life just died a few weeks ago from drugs and alcohol.only 55

Hey shithawk

I wish you would consider quitting.I have seen people quit after a long life of drinking and I have cleaned up after 2 others that lost their battle with alcohol.
You bleed out of your rectum as your body shuts down.Its a horrible end.

Sorry shithawk but you just need to stop.

I wish you would consider

ph

 

[shithawk420]

sorry guys.i know i shouldnt come around here talking that kinda shit.but i gotta be honest with myself.its gonna take a lot of time and work to fix me.i dont wanna be to personal or specific but my case is very unusual.and yeah im young around here.only 28.but i gotta lot of respect for you guys.ive been lurking for over 10 years so i know most of you guys and i know your good people,so im sorry i came in here negative.just thought i would tell part of my situation.

 

[Genghis Kush]

That's great that you are only 28 ! You have time to recover and live healthy more pleasant life.
Even if it takes ten years to recover you will still be young.
Seriously shithawk I've seen people who I was sure where going to die fully recover.
You can beat this.

 

[GET MO]

I was alcoholic from 16 to 32. Thats half my life drunk. If i could stop so could u man. Its a mindset! Go read the alchemist!

 

[Ph-patrol]

A lot of times alcohol is used as a protective blanket to help us cope with the past and giving up alcohol means on some level dealing with trauma that is painful and haunting.
Memories that feel too raw and overwhelming to ever deal with.

Stopping drinking and pulling this pain off the shelf and looking at it with sober eyes may allow us to finally deal with the past and forgive ourselves or in a lot of cases forgive others.Main thing is to come to terms with what life has thrown our way.

I personally feel that trauma or abuse never gets dealt with when in a state of perpetual drinking.Your memories may loope and loop but you never truly deal with the source of the paine.There are people that have had to deal with unspeakable act or just witnessing them.Coming from family or strangers.They are called survivors

Getting sober and dealing with it by yourself or with the help from others is so possible.I think men are less likely to be honest with themselves and admitting may feels all wrong. Keeping them stay in a dependent state that will kill spirits and kill lives.

My point is if something terrible happened to you it should not turn into a death sentence.
Never feel shameful and don't feel that asking or getting help is wrong.

ph

 

[Mr.Miner]

I was alcoholic from 16 to 32. Thats half my life drunk. If i could stop so could u man. Its a mindset! Go read the alchemist!

Hell yes! Totally agree...I stopped at 28, myself, and I was on a sure path to a quick death...I am 45 now and I am still sober and you can be, too!
You have a total advantage of being young. My body has healed since then and you would not even know I was the same person. You can do it. We are doing it and you can too!

 

[FrankieR35]

Don't allow yourself to be defined by your addiction. We all struggle with something. Reach out for help and support and resources that can help you overcome. https://www.drugrehabcomparison.com/2016/02/08/does-my-addiction-define-me/

 

[soil margin]

Man this thread covers a lot of painful territory for me. I had two grandfathers who drank themselves to death, a functional alcoholic father I'm not in contact with anymore, and some alcoholic brothers who I'm not in contact with anymore either. I've had several close friends pass away from the consequences of their addictions. I've never gotten a DUI or gone to an AA meeting but I believe that deep inside me lies the genetic potential to be a drunk/addict. It's all throughout my family. I've been lucky enough to have some great psychedelic experiences with LSD and mushrooms that I personally believe are responsible for providing me with the personal insight and clarity I needed to conquer my demons as a young man. I'm now basically completely sober from alcohol and have been for 5+ years. It's not even a challenge anymore, it's just the only way life makes sense. Life is too short to spend your time slurring your words and bumbling around like a fool, and alcohol just makes time fly by even faster. I love the insight, creative thinking, euphoria,etc. that cannabis provides me. It makes every aspect of life more enjoyable, more pleasurable. It also makes you appreciate the benefits to taking life slow and savoring every moment, every novelty, every experience, etc. rather than just letting them ride by like a runaway freight train.

 

[MCpeepants]

In my experience you will quit alcohol when you are ready. I woke up hungover again after several years of abusing alcohol and decided this is not how I want to live my life and I quit right there its been about 18 months. I would suggest getting to the root cause of why you drink. Alcohol is not a problem but alcohol abuse is, especially when it is used as a coping mechanism. Also STAY AWAY FROM AA. You can try Smart Recovery its Cognitive behavioral therapy based and actually helps if you need it.
http://www.smartrecovery.org/
Good Luck