cool man that sounds great. ive used your nl5hzc 91 tom hill cross as a great example of trangressive segregation as that plant looked nothing like either parent. weve got tons of info over st beanbasement with stone guru and dj9. heres the main thread stop by anytime
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question for sam the skunkman on the original haze
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also check out this insane feature of outback haze x n vietnam. vegetative clonal reproduction. nearly half the plants have extra mini mis which popped up 5 to 6 weeks after germination after a dry out or hot day. this has never been seen in cannabis before but is common in populus. pretty cool 3 new plants just popped a new one last night
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those are seedlings , they have cotyledons, they are not sprouts from the other plant , they wouldnt grow cotyledons if they were ..
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Twins?
i think piff cat was trying to indicate the fresh shoots in the pot he shared pictures of came from the root stock of the cannabis plant growing in the pot ,
but to me they look like seedlings given the cotyledons ...
I agree LOL those are old seeds left in the medium..or someone was dabbing while planting them ..
Are those the Mints? I just harvested her again and the crystalization is immense. Took her all the way thru this time even got a bit of amber. Can't wait to be able to smoke some of this batch should be better than the first one. I took some pics but will have to go thru them another day pretty swamped. I have been toking up the Original Haze quite a bit lately, got a couple new pheno's from these todd repro, one smells rubbery and the other is oniony freshly cut. They both had nice tops not as slender yet still slender I guess you might say. The rubbery one is thicker by comparison yet they are still light w a squeeze vs an indica.
I'd like to note that the OHaze from Todd and the THH from ol Tom both have tended to stay quite short from clone the last 2 runs in coco. I did however start the minty thh under the canopy of some indica's for the first 3 or so weeks to give her extra time to finish up. The octo THH liked to stay shorter in stature regardless of grow style hydro/soil/coco/hps/led.
they are from mints @LostTribe
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i thought that at first and 1 or 2 could be related to that, but the plants keep sending these suckers out some plants for have 3 or 4 little ones. it is very weird for sure been trying to figure out why the stem is growing these underground. never used the dirt before and i counted out the germination cups to how many beans i had. its certainly possible it explains a couple of em. but there are upwards of 15 all added together between cups.I agree LOL those are old seeds left in the medium..or someone was dabbing while planting them ..
while it sounds cool and novel,
cannabis just doesnt strike growth from the root system ,
its never been reported , and in all the many tens of thousands of plants ive seen and grown, its never happened either,
so the only answer is its some seeds in the mix striking ...
“When you have eliminated all which is impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.”
cannabis just doesnt strike growth from the root system ,
its never been reported , and in all the many tens of thousands of plants ive seen and grown, its never happened either,
so the only answer is its some seeds in the mix striking ...
“When you have eliminated all which is impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.”
the only thing im sure of is they did not all originate from a seed. dj sent me 20 i ended up with 17 cups and and 2 which germed late.its not like i have hoards of seeds nearly every plant has 2 to 4 of the new sprouts. theres just no way a fudged number is accounting for this. double cotyledons/miscounting was my first thought too. but they continue to pop and they have roots and are connected to the plants.just this week like6 new ones popped up. i dont even see it as some great thing its just very unique , an oddity.. to be fair these vietnam plants are obviously nearly wild and must have a ton of natural hormones they way they not only bend to the light but if a leaf or stem is cracked go crazy the next day stems vein under is stiff as board.non cannabis plants in vietnam in the populus family vietnam do this. its called a ramet and they are produced underground to develope huge colonies like panto in utah which is 47 acres all one plant a male.
so my best guess right now is the clear cups are somehow stressing the roots and in return more rooting hormone is released. here is a pic of piff s2 which is (a5s1)x (a5s1). ive also seen this kind of growth when alot of elite91 hormone is used. this is what it looks like under the stem of the plants with many sprouts and i can see a few connecting at sub surface.
hey piff ,
i hear what your saying man,
but cannabis just doesnt grow like that ,
you can search the all the boards for weeks and all the books ever written on it and you will never see a mention of cannabis growing shoots from the root system ,
added the fact the have cotyledons, tends to point to the fact they are seedlings ...
if you are unsure , ask someone like sam skunkman ,
he has multiple decades of experience and knows others that also have studied cannabis at length, ask if they have ever seen it sprout from the root systems and show them the pictures ,, they will let you know if you dont trust what im saying ...
with respect to the aerial rooting,
that is a thing for sure , especially when the medium is quite wet , particularly to the top , it encourages the roots to grow above the ground, i have seen that many times during our monsoon season.. ...
i hear what your saying man,
but cannabis just doesnt grow like that ,
you can search the all the boards for weeks and all the books ever written on it and you will never see a mention of cannabis growing shoots from the root system ,
added the fact the have cotyledons, tends to point to the fact they are seedlings ...
if you are unsure , ask someone like sam skunkman ,
he has multiple decades of experience and knows others that also have studied cannabis at length, ask if they have ever seen it sprout from the root systems and show them the pictures ,, they will let you know if you dont trust what im saying ...
with respect to the aerial rooting,
that is a thing for sure , especially when the medium is quite wet , particularly to the top , it encourages the roots to grow above the ground, i have seen that many times during our monsoon season.. ...
There are just twins, when two embryos are present in one seed aka polyembryony. But the two seedling emerging from that will not be similar geneticaly... Generally one is going to outgrow the other but you can separate them and replant the runty one as they each have their own roots system.
GoneRooty gave us the scientific answer in another old thread talking about the twins topic:
"It's a natural mutation called polyembryony. It has nothing to do with how the plant was pollinated. It's just like when animals have twins, conjoined twins, etc. Polyembryony is common in plants and animals, and can happen by the division of the zygote after fertilization or by an adventitious embryo forming from the somatic tissue alongside the embryo. The reason twin plants aren't seen as often is because of PCD (programmed cell death), which kills off all but one monozygotic embryo to ensure survival of the one embryo."
GoneRooty gave us the scientific answer in another old thread talking about the twins topic:
"It's a natural mutation called polyembryony. It has nothing to do with how the plant was pollinated. It's just like when animals have twins, conjoined twins, etc. Polyembryony is common in plants and animals, and can happen by the division of the zygote after fertilization or by an adventitious embryo forming from the somatic tissue alongside the embryo. The reason twin plants aren't seen as often is because of PCD (programmed cell death), which kills off all but one monozygotic embryo to ensure survival of the one embryo."
LOL Piff you tripping man...Most of those are non weed, weed seeds coming up..Its old soil 100% and maybe the last time you grew in it the plant dropped seeds..Happens to me all the time with my plants in my little outside garden, as I'm pollinating plants and also reusing the medium all the time...Actually when I harvest I shake off some seeds and stick them straight in the ground and have a look see what the line will bring ASAP.. I just resued some soil for succulents last weekend, and today a little dope tree popping out...And some tobacco seedlings as once that seeds you will never get rid of it, and as well in my greenhouses I occasionally get a strawberry seedling popping up as there's a farm in the area and the birds raid them and come shit where I store my media..and low and behold..But yeah dig it up, only way to know, is to go...Look see..
That is a trip
I bet when you buried it.... Instead of a root its popping a branch (new plant)
Ive seen this sort of thing
not with pot plants..... but I have witnessed something similar
I'm with you
Lets go for it
Get those babies growin' youll find whats what
I bet when you buried it.... Instead of a root its popping a branch (new plant)
Ive seen this sort of thing
not with pot plants..... but I have witnessed something similar
I'm with you
Lets go for it
Get those babies growin' youll find whats what
