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question for sam the skunkman on the original haze

LostTribe

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its just a guide and of course there are horses for courses ,
many factors to consider too,
ideally one would have the timer changing like the days slowly decrease in hours ,
while also gradually drying out to mimick the natural setting ,
of course no one tends to do that and somethings are hard to mimick ,

honestly the sativas i have grown , depending on the planting time
were finished up to 2 months before the shortest day of 11/13 ,
maybe the days by the end were something like 11.5/12.5 ,
but the plants can tell when the season is waning so they act accordingly ,
(ie , it gets cooler ,, the ground dries out and therefore less food is available and the days shorten gradually... )

The first grow books I read talked about matching the decrease in daylight to natural fall by reducing the day hours every day until the end of bloom. I think that would be something very worthy of trying but would require more attention. But this would also provide longer day hours to mimic growing season.
 

harvestreaper

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this pheno was taken at around 16 weeks on 11/13 in small pot first run ,,,pictured here currently @22 weeks larger pot on 12/12
 

JohnnyChicago

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finding some good phenos in seedsman haze ,, breeding them on an sharing is highly admirable johnny ,,,altho i dont see why you cannot sell them aswell or how the rules your putting on yourself in this regard are beneficial i dont see it personally ...also dont see how selling them would create any exclusivity ,,quite the opposite in fact ,,hence my post to you in first place ,,,, ...but hey its your genetics brother if you happy im happy

Don't try to understand me on the sharing of the Haze. Many have failed already. :)
But yes brother, one day I will send some to Gypsy, just like MadMac made to support the other guys who made the sharing possible. But lots of unexpected things happened the last 2 years and selling the Seedsman was never planned.
 

harvestreaper

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Don't try to understand me on the sharing of the Haze. Many have failed already. :)
But yes brother, one day I will send some to Gypsy, just like MadMac made to support the other guys who made the sharing possible. But lots of unexpected things happened the last 2 years and selling the Seedsman was never planned.

i think i understand you just fine johnny ,, i know what its like to hold rare genes.. put work in and not sellout sure aint easy with a hungry belly and handfuls of cash getting waved under your nose lol that being said ive seen people box themselves in corners in the same vain and i think that what probably motivated me to post to you ,,,but it appears i was mistaken ,,,,, bottom line for me ..your work is your work and you have every right to do with it as you please so i meant it when i said if you happy im happy and i look forward to seeing more of your stuff getting shown :tiphat:
 

Montuno

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I was meaning Tom Hills post, Montuno. Not yours. :)
Tom Hill is the breeder of THH.
THH has been considered the best of the OH's for long time.

Mi primo Califa siempre me habló muy bien de sus variedades. Creo (no recuerdo bien; corregidme si me equivoco) que estuvo implicado con Raco en el desarrollo o reproducción de la Monkey Haze (?).
Jeep me regaló su BubbleHaze (Raco's Tom Hill Haze selección x Leocadio's Serious Seeds Bubblegum), que a su vez yo regalé a Dee.S73 , quien a reportado en ICMag sobre sus cruces con Jeep's BubbleHaze.


My cousin Califa always spoke very well of his varieties. I think (I don't remember well; correct me if I'm wrong) that he was involved with Raco in the development or breeding of Monkey Haze (?).
Jeep gave me his BubbleHaze (Raco's Tom Hill Haze selection x Leocadio's Serious Seeds Bubblegum selection), which I in turn gave to Dee.S73 , who has reported in ICMag about his crosses with Jeep's BubbleHaze.
 

star crash

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That was a bit of a post not easy to get all those pictures posted correctly click on attachments to finish viewing:flowers2:
 

star crash

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Johnny’s selections are the Grail … I really love him for it one day I hope to meet him in person
 

harvestreaper

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The best quality high ive I’ve ever experienced..ps When you quote it’s pretty easy to remove the pictures so it’s not a double post of pictures:redface:

sounds terrific your not alone in your description on johnnys stuff either hope to try it myself one day ,,,i aint found as good as what ive had in past myself ,,,,yet ,,, but im closing in slowley but surely lol
 

Dr.Young

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Its all about DLI.... if you have a weak light or HID with no parts of the plant close to the light you might have to run 12hr of light to get a suitable amount of photons for vigor.... With a intense LED or a good portion of the plant reaching close to a HID you might be getting too many photons/ppfd and 11/13 would reduce a hour of photons helping the plant grow right...
If you are pushing a good footprint with high ppfd certainly 11/13 is superior for sativas.
 

Hammerhead

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Is Seedman's OH easy to herm?. I can't have that happen at all. Taking that risk is too high so going into a tent alone.
 

star crash

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It appears that they produce a nice balance of true males and true females … Johnny has already stated that they do breed true …@ Hammer I don’t know what seedsman you got your hands on ,but I can tell you Johnny’s ran like a charm and I personally tested the seeds that came out of those plants they also works like a charm…If you’re going to dedicate a tent to them just be safe and go 1113
 

Raho

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i think i understand you just fine johnny ,, i know what its like to hold rare genes.. put work in and not sellout sure aint easy with a hungry belly and handfuls of cash getting waved under your nose lol that being said ive seen people box themselves in corners in the same vain and i think that what probably motivated me to post to you ,,,but it appears i was mistaken ,,,,, bottom line for me ..your work is your work and you have every right to do with it as you please so i meant it when i said if you happy im happy and i look forward to seeing more of your stuff getting shown :tiphat:

Nope, you don't understand him HR.
It's OK.
If Johnny wanted to talk about it he would. No point trying to drag it out of him.
 

harvestreaper

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Nope, you don't understand him HR.
It's OK.
If Johnny wanted to talk about it he would. No point trying to drag it out of him.

we all diffrent raho ,,not trying to drag anything out of anyone,, not my style lol let freedom reighn an yes i agree its ok
 
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