question for sam the skunkman on the original haze

[Hammerhead]

I still grow a seed I found in some flowers while trimming.. No clue where her pollen source came from.. Im assuming it's an s1 but ill never know.. She is a killer plant. These are what I call bag seeds. If I had not found it someone else would have.

 

[Sub24ox7]

Certainly, where I live there is no clone culture (or at least it did not exist until a few years ago), here we work with seeds, both from seedbanks and bagseeds ... In fact, a lot of what I grow comes from bagseeds ...

Totally this is what I grew up doing, growing bagseed. Everything from brick Mexican to what they called dro. So much fun, there is so much variation and smells buzzes in cannabis. There is so much less variation in the modern strains honestly it’s so homogeneous.
I found such good interesting plants in old bagseed.
wish I still had some from the 80’s and 90’s

Was definitely like a lottery, some sucked some grew male flowers on one branch with females on others, also found weird mutants etc.. that was what I learned to grow on(bagseed).
But some was good.

 

[@hempy]

Todd McCormick on the latest Pot Cast. About half of the almost 5 hours (!) is about O.Haze. Well worth a listen.

Part 1:
Stream Episode 62 Ft Todd McCormick of AG Seed Co. by The Pot Cast | Listen online for free on SoundCloud

Part 2:
Stream Episode 62.5 Ft Todd McCormick of AG seed Co. by The Pot Cast | Listen online for free on SoundCloud

Thanks for the links i will take a look.

Todd seams like a nice guy but a lot of what he claims as fact is far from fact.

 

[Sub24ox7]

I don’t know, just listened to both of those and finding everything he said factual. Seems like a good dude and legit. After listening to those podcasts I’m going to buy the haze and northern lights from agseed. Let’s be honest Hempy if anyone even thinks about having an honest look at Nevil you Get defensive. I like you and love this thread! I really like and think Todd’s take on Neville and Sam is pretty journalistic and probably close. thank god for Neville and Dave aka jingles aka Sam the skunk man. I think Sam has been maligned by many wanting to change history for their own purposes. I think Sam is THE 1 person in the cannabis world I would love to befriend and i think he is the cannabis pioneer of our times.
Thank Neville for bein someone with some big cajones to start an international cannabis seed co.
Was a good idea

 

[Donald Mallard]

your getting mixed up with "facts" and "hempys facts" sub , hahaha ,
funny how he jumped in and said that even before he heard what todd has to say ,
like he already knew what todd was going to say ,, its uncanny isnt it ,, lol ...

 

[Sub24ox7]

If I had choose 1 person to idolize in the cannabis world it would be Dave Watson. Would love to just pick his brain and listen.. hah wish he was my Uncle or grandpa, lol honestly though I think he has more knowledge than any other 1 person cannabis beside Rob Clarke. It’s weird but because of the laws etc.. he was the only person alive to work so many plants. Incredible.

 

[@hempy]

your getting mixed up with "facts" and "hempys facts" sub , hahaha ,
funny how he jumped in and said that even before he heard what todd has to say ,
like he already knew what todd was going to say ,, its uncanny isnt it ,, lol ...

You really need to stop trolling me Donald your starting to look very unstable.

I have seen Todd on a few Pod Casts and his info that he claims is fact is often not.

Just one example Todd claimed Ben Dronkers bailed Nevil out of prison in Australia.

The person that Bailed Nevil out of prison was Nevils sister not Ben.

Get a life Donald.

 

[Donald Mallard]

You really need to stop trolling me Donald your starting to look very unstable.

I have seen Todd on a few Pod Casts and his info that he claims is fact is often not.

Just one example Todd claimed Ben Dronkers bailed Nevil out of prison in Australia.

The person that Bailed Nevil out of prison was Nevils sister not Ben.

Get a life Donald.

maybe he gets the odd thing wrong ,
but most folks do , as you do , problem is you just never admit it ,
todd may be man enough to do that though ,
he seems like a humble enough guy ...

seems pretty knowledgeable and was on the scene at the time too , unlike your experiences all being second and third hand ...
how about you try listening to the potcast before you slander and defame the guy hey ...

 

[@hempy]

11.30 in on the first pod cast he is telling us all that Nevils Haze is NLxHzC crossed to HzA.

Wrong Todd its a 5HzA x HzC .

Real knowledgeable lol.

 

[Sub24ox7]

Speaking of getting bailed out of jail, if you listen to the podcast Woody Harrelson bailed out Todd Mcormick with a half a million in cash. Very interesting podcast.
He also says d he was hesitant to show pics of all the haze he was growing because of people’s preconceptions of what haze is. He said there are even 9 week phenos in it. I think Sam did a good job preserving every phenotype in haze. Im of the mind that the longer phenotypes are where it’s at.

 

[Donald Mallard]

hahaha , what ever mate ,
so ready to diss folks so you can wave your "im an expert because i know nevil :" flag ,
get over yourself and just listen to what the man has to say ,
there may be small discrepancies,, look past them and listen to the whole thing with an open mind ,

he talks about nevil around the 24 min mark ,, go listen to that bit , that will ruffle your feathers a bit im sure ,
you can come back and have another go at him then i guess ...

you could write to him and tell him yourself what a liar he is ,
would save doing it somewhere he cant respond or defend himself ,
and save us having to listen to your spite ...

 

[led05]

One indoor haze plant drying; generous gal

 

[harvestreaper]

I don’t know, just listened to both of those and finding everything he said factual. Seems like a good dude and legit. After listening to those podcasts I’m going to buy the haze and northern lights from agseed. Let’s be honest Hempy if anyone even thinks about having an honest look at Nevil you Get defensive. I like you and love this thread! I really like and think Todd’s take on Neville and Sam is pretty journalistic and probably close. thank god for Neville and Dave aka jingles aka Sam the skunk man. I think Sam has been maligned by many wanting to change history for their own purposes. I think Sam is THE 1 person in the cannabis world I would love to befriend and i think he is the cannabis pioneer of our times.
Thank Neville for bein someone with some big cajones to start an international cannabis seed co.
Was a good idea

have to agree ,,only watched first one so far but i was around dam in old days an london pre sam an watched what unfolded in real time as far as the intoduction of haze nl sk1 in europe ,,i find todd view tallies close to mine in that respect im no bigshot but i have posted on this before ,,same with heroin addicton ive lost people i love too it but ive never met 1 addict functioning or otherwise nice person or otherwise whos integrity was not severely compromised by that shit and neville will be no diffrernt imov ,,my favourite hazes came from posi back in day but they didnt look like toms gear nothng like it at all ooo the plot thickens ,,cheerleaders fanboys/girls bring it on lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_dwpUrWkE4

 

[Donald Mallard]

One indoor haze plant drying; generous gal

yea not "too bad" hahahaa ,
nice form ledo ,
what type of haze , pure , hybrid ,
she did u proud what ever she is mate ....

 

[harvestreaper]

One indoor haze plant drying; generous gal

looks fantastic is from todds? looks bit like some of mine from him ...only annoyingly better lol

 

[@hempy]

have to agree ,,only watched first one so far but i was around dam in old days an london pre sam an watched what unfolded in real time as far as the intoduction of haze nl sk1 in europe ,,i find todd view tallies close to mine in that respect im no bigshot but i have posted on this before ,,same with heroin addicton ive lost people i love too it but ive never met 1 addict functioning or otherwise nice person or otherwise whos integrity was not severely compromised by that shit and neville will be no diffrernt imov ,,my favourite hazes came from posi back in day but they didnt look like toms gear nothng like it at all ooo the plot thickens ,,cheerleaders fanboys/girls bring it on lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_dwpUrWkE4

I also lost lots of school friends and i think any one growing up in the 70s did also.

After he got clean Nevil blew him self up in Holland making Hash and ended up in Hospital with burns.

As they treated him in hospital he refused morphine for pain as he was afraid he end up on the heroin again.

Nevil didn't act like a junky and any one hacking his seeds claiming What Todd does should be the one people need to avoid.

 

[harvestreaper]

I also lost lots of school friends and i think any one growing up in the 70s did also.

After he got clean Nevil blew him self up in Holland making Hash and ended up in Hospital with burns.

As they treated him in hospital he refused morphine for pain as he was afraid he end up on the heroin again.

Nevil didn't act like a junky and any one hacking his seeds claiming What Todd does should be the one people need to avoid.

i wouldnt wish on my worst enemy hempy ,,i know your soft spot for neville ..back then i was a footsoldier i worked hard for neville promoting the cuts /product we had sending everyone to his business i came into contact with ,, im talking over around 10 year span ,,,,but i never knew or met the man im pretty sure i see him for who he was as to his impact as a businessman and breeder both in skill and application ,,, my personality will not allow me to censor my view of the situation because of your affection for him that would impact my freemind but i feel sure you know i have no agenda here m only on the side of truth which ime does not alighn me to many people at all lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wjw7m-BKmQ8 the sound of london in the 80s pre rave this talk takin me back lol

 

[Sub24ox7]

I had a decade lost to diacetylmorphine. Unfortunately yes I don’t care who you are you will do things against your principles. Drugs aren’t bad m’kay ... but opiates just don’t work out for very long. I don’t take any medications anymore besides insulin as I’m a type 1 diabetic. My only meds I take the last 10 years is cannabis. Anyway I can run 6 minute miles now. I’m an athlete now in my 40’s. Anyway long story short heroin would make Jesus himself sell Mary magdiline down the road if it gave him more heroin.
It feels tooo damn good for its own good. Damn good meds for palliative care. United States can’t even prescribe diacetylmorphine lol draconian. You sure can get it prescribed in uk.

 

[harvestreaper]

I had a decade lost to diacetylmorphine. Unfortunately yes I don’t care who you are you will do things against your principles. Drugs aren’t bad m’kay ... but opiates just don’t work out for very long. I don’t take any medications anymore besides insulin as I’m a type 1 diabetic. My only meds I take the last 10 years is cannabis. Anyway I can run 6 minute miles now. I’m an athlete now in my 40’s. Anyway long story short heroin would make Jesus himself sell Mary magdiline down the road if it gave him more heroin.

respect takes a mountain of a man to overcome

 

[@hempy]

i wouldnt wish on my worst enemy hempy ,,i know your soft spot for neville ..back then i was a footsoldier i worked hard for neville promoting the cuts /product we had sending everyone to his business i came into contact with ,, im talking over around 10 year span ,,,,but i never knew or met the man im pretty sure i see him for who he was as to his impact as a businessman and breeder both in skill and application ,,, my personality will not allow me to censor my view of the situation because of your affection for him that would impact my freemind but i feel sure you know i have no agenda here m only on the side of truth which ime does not alighn me to many people at all lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wjw7m-BKmQ8 the sound of london in the 80s pre rave this talk takin me back lol

I liked Nevil but i never worshiped him Nevil earned my respect and my loyalty.

If you show Sam respect that's okay but if you show Nevil respect that's worshiping okay.

Put your self in Nevils shoes your in Holland running a seed company while the US government wants your ass in a cage for life how many people wanting to be close to you would you trust ? After so many tried to burn you lol.

How many people did Nevil rip off i am all ears ?.

Todd is talking smack about a guy he met and chatted to for an hour at an event. A guy Todd claims to know both his life and his breeding how laughable.