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Puttin' in work: 10'x15'x8' sealed room-in-a-room, 6000watts of light
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moses224
Lapides
Looking good, Keep us updated with those plants too
!What do u use as resavoir a trash can? also what pump? thanks
Lol, oh PANDA WRAP? Never in my long life have I heard of Visqueen? Is this just some different brand of the same shit? black/white plastic cant be pantented can it?
A little more work lately.
A little more work lately.
Hey folks, I'm giving you all an update on what's been going on at the spot since I've last posted here.
For a second, the plants started stinking so I threw in a carbon filter. I knew they were gonna stink, but I wanted to wait until I could just smell it when I cracked open the velcro before I lugged this big motherfucker on over. There was and is NO smell outside the growroom proper, she's airtight.
Now there's virtually no smell even inside the room.
As far as I could tell, aside from a few thrips and a 3 week bout with powdery mildew, all of my conditions were PERFECT. Temps were 81 degrees max in the day and 72 at night. Humidity never got above 55%.
I had the exact same medium I had been using for the past 9 runs and fed them the exact same had been feeding them for the past 9 runs.
But the girls looked like SHIT. I didn't bother taking any pictures out of embarrassment for myself and for bandwidth conservation.
The only difference was the water supply and the fact that I was now supplying my own co2. I got a ppm meter for h2o and found that nothing was wrong with my water.
My co2 regulator was on a timer and I had the regulator set to the setting I thought it was supposed to be according to the formula given with the instructions.
It was killing me not knowing what the actual levels of co2 were in there. It was the ONLY thing that I figured could be wrong. Not enough? Too much?
So I purchased a co2 controller, hoping I could now have complete control over all of my environmental conditions. When it came, I hooked it up and found that my co2 levels were 2700+ppm!! That's about twice the optimum amount and about 700ppm over the maximum the plants can handle.
Ok. Fine. So I plug the regulator into the controller and go to sleep thinking all of my problems are solved. Not so. Upon my visit the next day, I found that the regulator was allowing flow into the room when it should have been off. So I unplugged the regulator completely. And it's still allowing co2 to flow, which obviously it should not. The solenoid was freezing up from the controller clicking it on and off so frequently. It took me a week of fucking with it and actually going back and reading the directions for the regulator that said, "Not to be used with electronic controllers, as the constant switching on and off may freeze the solenoid." I guess I'm a dumbass for not thoroughly reading the directions, but c'mon, couldn't Hydrofarm produce a regulator with a solenoid that could handle switching on and off every 5 minutes or so?
So I re-adjusted the flow on the regulator so that just a little co2 was coming out and put it on a 15min on/15min off timer and the levels have been in range for me ever since.
My buddy at the grow shop told me CAP makes a regulator that is supposed to work with the controllers, so I'll be looking into getting that one when the next room gets finished.
Summertime is just about here and it is getting hot outside. The ambient temp around the rooms is getting closer and closer to 90 degrees every day. I went ahead and starting insulating the first room to keep it cool and let my AC not have to work so hard. Might actually save me a few bucks on my electric bill.
wall
ceiling - this was fun. There was about 2 feet between the top of the room and the ceiling of the shop. It felt like it was about 200 degrees up there and I had sweat pouring off of my body. I also found out from the guy who helped me build it, that I was very lucky I didn't hurt myself that day, as the ceiling isn't structurally sound enough to really hold the weight of anybody. Whew, that surely would have ruined my day
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Lately I've been reading about these Tropf-Blumat dripper things. They're made in Austria and they are little ceramic sensors you put in the dirt and they can tell how moist the soil is and allow water to drip. They've been getting great reviews on canna websites and other gardening sites as well. I've switched over to living soil with all the nutes mixed in ahead of time, so all my plants need is water. This should be a perfect addition to my garden. I ordered a starter kit with 12 sensors and hooked em up yesterday. Once the sensors are dialed in (takes up to a week I hear) you can go on vacation for weeks without having to tend to your plants.
And since this is Growroom Designs and Equipment, I'll throw up this piece of equipment I invested in a few months ago. I think it's the best money I've spent in awhile.
It takes me no more than 2.5 hours to take down and trim 1-1k light by myself. It does a better job trimming than a lot of noobs can do, in a HUGE fraction of the time. Not to mention I don't have to let any outsiders in on my OP for help.
That's a wet bud that just came out of the trimmer. When it's dried up, the little bits of dead leaves will crumble off themselves. The guy who takes all my herb from me examines the trics with a loupe and he hasn't once complained about the job it does.
Just be really careful when removing the blades.
I thought the blades might have been getting a little dull so I was gonna take em off and sharpen them. I think they were still sharp though.
Thanks for tuning in!
A little more work lately.
Hey folks, I'm giving you all an update on what's been going on at the spot since I've last posted here.
For a second, the plants started stinking so I threw in a carbon filter. I knew they were gonna stink, but I wanted to wait until I could just smell it when I cracked open the velcro before I lugged this big motherfucker on over. There was and is NO smell outside the growroom proper, she's airtight.
Now there's virtually no smell even inside the room.
As far as I could tell, aside from a few thrips and a 3 week bout with powdery mildew, all of my conditions were PERFECT. Temps were 81 degrees max in the day and 72 at night. Humidity never got above 55%.
I had the exact same medium I had been using for the past 9 runs and fed them the exact same had been feeding them for the past 9 runs.
But the girls looked like SHIT. I didn't bother taking any pictures out of embarrassment for myself and for bandwidth conservation.
The only difference was the water supply and the fact that I was now supplying my own co2. I got a ppm meter for h2o and found that nothing was wrong with my water.
My co2 regulator was on a timer and I had the regulator set to the setting I thought it was supposed to be according to the formula given with the instructions.
It was killing me not knowing what the actual levels of co2 were in there. It was the ONLY thing that I figured could be wrong. Not enough? Too much?
So I purchased a co2 controller, hoping I could now have complete control over all of my environmental conditions. When it came, I hooked it up and found that my co2 levels were 2700+ppm!! That's about twice the optimum amount and about 700ppm over the maximum the plants can handle.
Ok. Fine. So I plug the regulator into the controller and go to sleep thinking all of my problems are solved. Not so. Upon my visit the next day, I found that the regulator was allowing flow into the room when it should have been off. So I unplugged the regulator completely. And it's still allowing co2 to flow, which obviously it should not. The solenoid was freezing up from the controller clicking it on and off so frequently. It took me a week of fucking with it and actually going back and reading the directions for the regulator that said, "Not to be used with electronic controllers, as the constant switching on and off may freeze the solenoid." I guess I'm a dumbass for not thoroughly reading the directions, but c'mon, couldn't Hydrofarm produce a regulator with a solenoid that could handle switching on and off every 5 minutes or so?
So I re-adjusted the flow on the regulator so that just a little co2 was coming out and put it on a 15min on/15min off timer and the levels have been in range for me ever since.
My buddy at the grow shop told me CAP makes a regulator that is supposed to work with the controllers, so I'll be looking into getting that one when the next room gets finished.
Summertime is just about here and it is getting hot outside. The ambient temp around the rooms is getting closer and closer to 90 degrees every day. I went ahead and starting insulating the first room to keep it cool and let my AC not have to work so hard. Might actually save me a few bucks on my electric bill.
wall
ceiling - this was fun. There was about 2 feet between the top of the room and the ceiling of the shop. It felt like it was about 200 degrees up there and I had sweat pouring off of my body. I also found out from the guy who helped me build it, that I was very lucky I didn't hurt myself that day, as the ceiling isn't structurally sound enough to really hold the weight of anybody. Whew, that surely would have ruined my day
.Lately I've been reading about these Tropf-Blumat dripper things. They're made in Austria and they are little ceramic sensors you put in the dirt and they can tell how moist the soil is and allow water to drip. They've been getting great reviews on canna websites and other gardening sites as well. I've switched over to living soil with all the nutes mixed in ahead of time, so all my plants need is water. This should be a perfect addition to my garden. I ordered a starter kit with 12 sensors and hooked em up yesterday. Once the sensors are dialed in (takes up to a week I hear) you can go on vacation for weeks without having to tend to your plants.
And since this is Growroom Designs and Equipment, I'll throw up this piece of equipment I invested in a few months ago. I think it's the best money I've spent in awhile.
It takes me no more than 2.5 hours to take down and trim 1-1k light by myself. It does a better job trimming than a lot of noobs can do, in a HUGE fraction of the time. Not to mention I don't have to let any outsiders in on my OP for help.
That's a wet bud that just came out of the trimmer. When it's dried up, the little bits of dead leaves will crumble off themselves. The guy who takes all my herb from me examines the trics with a loupe and he hasn't once complained about the job it does.
Just be really careful when removing the blades.
I thought the blades might have been getting a little dull so I was gonna take em off and sharpen them. I think they were still sharp though.
Thanks for tuning in!
MrDanky
Member
Hi Lapides, good work over there.
im trying to figure out the Tropf-Blumat dripper system. I went to the webstie and still could not figure out " where does the water come from?" do you fill up that device or is there another reservoir that the device sucks water from? it seems like an ingenious idea that is every travelers dream...
im trying to figure out the Tropf-Blumat dripper system. I went to the webstie and still could not figure out " where does the water come from?" do you fill up that device or is there another reservoir that the device sucks water from? it seems like an ingenious idea that is every travelers dream...
Hey, and thanks.
You have two choices for a water supply. You can have a reservoir or hook it right up to a spigot with a pressure reducer (damn piece of plastic cost 50 bucks tho). An 8mm water line comes from your rez or the reducer and feeds into smaller lines. The smaller lines are controlled by a valve in the ceramic sensor. The sensor is filled with water, but not to water the plants. As the sensor dries out, suction is created inside the sensor as the water inside the cone tries to replenish moisture, which in turn gradually opens the valve to let water out of the watering line.
There's a youtube video demonstrating these things. Just do a youtube search for Tropf Blumat. Check it out and you'll understand more. These things are genius.
I'm always impressed everytime I come through your thread Lap....
One day soon they'll be some construction happenin round here of my own.
Keep it green bro
Gro
Cool thanks man. Good thing I haven't posted any pictures of the plants I just grew or you may not be so impressed :wink:
Great to hear you'll be expanding soon. With the exception of an involuntary break here and there, I've been growing and growing ever since my first closet.
I just love the challenge and the end results of what I create.
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Organic-Dank
impressive keep it up !! and stay safe
With the work you put in Lap, there is no doubt the end results will be impressive at some point bro
The only thing addictive (in my eyes) about weed is the process of growing good shit.
Peace Brother F.U.C.K.E.M.
Lookin mighty fine Lap!
good vibes
good vibes
Lapidies- I want to just warn you about VOC's. (Volatile Organic Compounds) These are toxic gases that are given off products like carpet, plywood, particle board and so on. If there are high levels of VOC's then your plants will most definitely have a hard time growing. I am not sure if this is your problem or not, however your room looks like it is made of material that is high in VOC's and since you are using CO2 I worry that you are not bringing in enough fresh air to compensate for the high levels of VOC's. A couple of things that you can do is paint the room 100% with low VOC paint that almost all paint stores now carry. Google VOC's and see if this looks like it may be a issue for you or not. Just thought I would help out.
p.s. I don't know if you have ever heard of Hydro Huts, but they had the same problem. The off gas of the plastic was making plants sick. Same thing you may have going.
p.s. I don't know if you have ever heard of Hydro Huts, but they had the same problem. The off gas of the plastic was making plants sick. Same thing you may have going.
I thought about that possibility actually. However, when I got the co2 sensor in the room and found the level to be over 2700ppm, I concluded that they were being exposed to entirely too much co2. 2000ppm is about the point where it becomes toxic to the plants. Panda wrap is commonly used in growrooms and closets, and has been since before those HydroHuts, so I think that plastic is safe.
I'm staying on my toes though, and keeping a close eye on it.
Thanks for the heads up.
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DjRightHooks
Great update Lapides!.sux about the co2..Bud trimmer looks nice.jelous
I know how you feel Lap. My plants were lookin pretty bad lately too. Really didnt want to take any pics. The heat was getting the best of me. The rest of the summer is gonna be strictly takin care of mums and upgrading the room .
Good Luck wit the next run
MARLO
Good Luck wit the next run
MARLO
OUCH. Tough break, Lap. I did that same exact shit a few months back before I got my controller. I've heard the occasional bad thing about those Hydrofarm solenoids, now it's been verified. I've had a CAP for almost a year and have had 0 problems with it freezing up on me.
Since finding out that no matter how good you are at math, you're going to overdose the CO2, I've been trying to warn people against it.
CO2 as whole has been a pain in my ass. Even my Sentinel CPPM-1 stopped working on me recently. (with one cycle on it, thanks Sentinel.)
Can't wait to see round 2!
Since finding out that no matter how good you are at math, you're going to overdose the CO2, I've been trying to warn people against it.
CO2 as whole has been a pain in my ass. Even my Sentinel CPPM-1 stopped working on me recently. (with one cycle on it, thanks Sentinel.)
Can't wait to see round 2!
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sparkjumper
Lapides some people prefer 1800-2000PPM co2 its not toxic to your plants man,the thing is to keep the fluctuation in check,no more than a 200 PPM fluctuation at high PPM's for the full 12 hours.I've had good luck with my cap though it stuck on me once
