Pure Thai Sativas

[ngakpa]

Meh...

Purple and dark coloured plants aren't that unusual around even the Lao-Isan region of the Mekong. I've seen them from highland Central Laos hill tribe stuff and in bricked commercial ganja, many times

If, as you claim, you find more of them the further north you go in Thailand, well, guess what, it gets pretty cold at night in the north from at least November onwards, same as in highland Laos...

 

[Thule]

Most Thai landraces seem to plot close to Nepalese strains in phylos. The only Cambodian strain in phylos looks closely related to South Indian strains like Kerala. In the north there's significant influence from robust Chinese strains. You can expect a mix of these influences throughout the area.

 

[troutman]

I may grow another pure Thai in 2019. Not sure yet.

I just have to finish my pure Pakistani grow before I start anything else.

 

[ngakpa]

Most Thai landraces seem to plot close to Nepalese strains in phylos. The only Cambodian strain in phylos looks closely related to South Indian strains like Kerala. In the north there's significant influence from robust Chinese strains. You can expect a mix of these influences throughout the area.

Phylos is of pretty limited value imo

re. hemp:

fwiw, Chinese hemp is grown at least as far south as Khammouane in Laos

 

[KanCha]

SSO:
Lets hear a bit more about what ya came across in Vietnam, been there myself and would be fun hearing what ya found!

Came across super strong bud in southern parts of the country, big buds too!

Smoked a lot in Asia but never bought anything thats not in the shape of buds (sticks, stems, crumbs etc.)

 

[Elmer Bud]

Meh...

Purple and dark coloured plants aren't that unusual around even the Lao-Isan region of the Mekong. I've seen them from highland Central Laos hill tribe stuff and in bricked commercial ganja, many times

If, as you claim, you find more of them the further north you go in Thailand, well, guess what, it gets pretty cold at night in the north from at least November onwards, same as in highland Laos...

G `day ngakpa

I think this should be your theme song .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ov4epAJRPMw

Cause you have seen it all ...


Thanks for sharin

EB .

 

[baduy]

please no

 

[Lolo94]

The thai seeds ive seen in photos and the ones from growing my one and only thai plant grow are all very small. However, in the late 90s i took a trip to NW Thailand and trekked with a guide to an area 3 days hike or so from Chang Rai, past the Kings castle along the Burmese border. The elder hilltribesmen we stayed with overnight had pressed weed inside of a corncob that resembled a cliffbar when opened. The smoke was extremely smooth and kept me up all night jjtterry and laughing my head off. They gave me seeds that were the biggest i had ever seen. They were the size of small peas and bigger than any of the old indica seeds (not Dutch)i had ever seen. Just curious if anyone had ever run into such large seeds in Thailand?

 

[Donald Mallard]

G `day ngakpa

I think this should be your theme song .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ov4epAJRPMw

Cause you have seen it all ...


Thanks for sharin

EB .

please keep the immaturity off the boards eb ,
we know you dont like ngakpa , you troll him in more than 1 thread ,
how about you leave it so we can enjoy the threads without seeing you bait folks ....

you can pm him and wrestle there if you want ,

as long as we all dont have to endure it ....

 

[willydread]

The thai seeds ive seen in photos and the ones from growing my one and only thai plant grow are all very small. However, in the late 90s i took a trip to NW Thailand and trekked with a guide to an area 3 days hike or so from Chang Rai, past the Kings castle along the Burmese border. The elder hilltribesmen we stayed with overnight had pressed weed inside of a corncob that resembled a cliffbar when opened. The smoke was extremely smooth and kept me up all night jjtterry and laughing my head off. They gave me seeds that were the biggest i had ever seen. They were the size of small peas and bigger than any of the old indica seeds (not Dutch)i had ever seen. Just curious if anyone had ever run into such large seeds in Thailand?

A lot of traditional thai strains are related to chinensis strains, with big seeds and leaf not very slim...
One good friend had find on the Hills (i dont remember the exact name) a small Village that growing hemp for fiber and buds,...

 

[Elmer Bud]

please keep the immaturity off the boards eb ,
we know you dont like ngakpa , you troll him in more than 1 thread ,
how about you leave it so we can enjoy the threads without seeing you bait folks ....

you can pm him and wrestle there if you want ,

as long as we all dont have to endure it ....

G `day Wal

Sound advice .
Apology I couldn`t help it after I saw ngakpa being disrespectful again .

I will refrain from reacting to ngakpa`s narcissism .

Though I will keep dropping knowledge like I have done here for years now . What`s your contribution here other than trying to make me look bad ?

Thanks for sharin

EB .

 

[Donald Mallard]

G `day Wal

Sound advice .
Apology I couldn`t help it after I saw ngakpa being disrespectful again .

I will refrain from reacting to ngakpa`s narcissism .

Though I will keep dropping knowledge like I have done here for years now . What`s your contribution here other than trying to make me look bad ?

Thanks for sharin

EB .

I post pictures of thai plants eb if you look through the thread..
You're doing a good job of looking bad on your own, no need for me to contribute....

 

[Elmer Bud]

G `day Wal

Thai ?
I thought it was Laos ?

Here`s some Thai from Mae Ai ,Golden Triangle is just up the road .

There`s a few grams stashed in the back of a fridge in a hotel room in BKK ...

Thanks for sharin

EB .

 

[Elmer Bud]

A lot of traditional thai strains are related to chinensis strains, with big seeds and leaf not very slim...
One good friend had find on the Hills (i dont remember the exact name) a small Village that growing hemp for fiber and buds,...

G `day WD

There are a lot of stateless people in Nth Thailand .
Hmong mao the Thai`s call them . Ethnic Chinese from when Mao took over in China and the communists took power in Laos .

These folks live on mountain tops and remote areas .
They speak a dialect of their own .

They are known as kancha farmers all over the region .

Thai`s are extremely xenophobic . Hmong people have been living in Thailand for 60 +years but have no Thai ID ,can`t go to Thai schools or hospitals .

Farming or drug smuggling are their main sources of income .

Hmong people were used by the CIA during the Vietnam war . But fought in Laos . After the war Thailand and the remote mountains of the north offered shelter .

Thanks for sharin

EB .

 

[Donald Mallard]

G `day Wal

Thai ?
I thought it was Laos ?

Here`s some Thai from Mae Ai ,Golden Triangle is just up the road .

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There`s a few grams stashed in the back of a fridge in a hotel room in BKK ...

Thanks for sharin

EB .

nope , thai ,, i didnt have that laos when i posted in this thread ...

i have a bunch of thai from rsc , id like to fire up at some point ..

 

[Lolo94]

G `day WD

There are a lot of stateless people in Nth Thailand .
Hmong mao the Thai`s call them . Ethnic Chinese from when Mao took over in China and the communists took power in Laos .

These folks live on mountain tops and remote areas .
They speak a dialect of their own .

They are known as kancha farmers all over the region .

Thai`s are extremely xenophobic . Hmong people have been living in Thailand for 60 +years but have no Thai ID ,can`t go to Thai schools or hospitals .

Farming or drug smuggling are their main sources of income .

Hmong people were used by the CIA during the Vietnam war . But fought in Laos . After the war Thailand and the remote mountains of the north offered shelter .

Thanks for sharin

EB .

I got the opportunity (through an interpreter) to speak to the village elders. They mentioned not being able to work in the towns. Instead, they would send a couple young women to work as prostitutes and the women would send money back to the village. Open their return, the women would be treated as heroes for helping out the village. It was quite an eye opener. The village only had rough eroded trails accessible by dirtbikes (although i didnt see any while there). The pigs and mangy dogs lived below the bamboo huts where everyone lived. At one point, I was so buzzed at night i thought the pigs and i were having an argument. We were also told to hide our shoes, just in case the burmese soldiers raided the mountaintop village.

 

[ThaiBliss]

The thai seeds ive seen in photos and the ones from growing my one and only thai plant grow are all very small. However, in the late 90s i took a trip to NW Thailand and trekked with a guide to an area 3 days hike or so from Chang Rai, past the Kings castle along the Burmese border. The elder hilltribesmen we stayed with overnight had pressed weed inside of a corncob that resembled a cliffbar when opened. The smoke was extremely smooth and kept me up all night jjtterry and laughing my head off. They gave me seeds that were the biggest i had ever seen. They were the size of small peas and bigger than any of the old indica seeds (not Dutch)i had ever seen. Just curious if anyone had ever run into such large seeds in Thailand?

Greetings,

Compared to many of the folks posting on this thread, I have a perspective of Thai strains that is like looking through a drinking straw. It is my belief that for 10 years I had one source of Thai Sticks. I say "my belief" because it was a friend of a friend's friend sort of thing. The story I heard was that it was a guy who lived in Thailand and was sending us shipments directly. It was very even quality over the decade, and consistent from year to year in all ways. We found an occasional seed, and me being me, I tried growing them in the Midwest U.S. Of course, they never matured. I don't remember the look of the seeds from way back then, but I do remember that plants looked different than the plants from the seeds we found later as the source dried up.

At the end of the 10 year period, in around '79, '80, or '81, we stopped getting the sticks and got loose pack or brick. The buds were chock full of seeds. The high and potency was no different. I do remember what those seeds looked like, and I found some that looked very similar.

A friend sent me some seeds that were described as being Punto Rojo from Colombia. My friend preferred the name Punto Oro because the buds on the plants he grew from the seeds were gold instead of red. These seeds were huge, and colored like the seeded Thai I once had. I will mention a couple of differences. The pattern on the Thai seeds had that shattered coating look, but the Thai seeds had cracked areas that were farther apart thus the areas without any pattern were larger and less numerous. The lines that look like cracks were less distinctive and were much harder to see. Here are the Punto Oro in contrast to some very small Colombian Gold related seeds:

As you can see, these huge Punto Oro seeds that look like the Thai seeds I once had and are similar to the seeds that Thule posted on page 62.

Thule's picture:

I also remember the base of the seeds had that highly articulated "belly button" where the seed attached to the plant. I also have seen this feature in Angola Red seeds.

Just a few remembrances from growing out the different Thai plants that I got. The leaves from the plants that grew from the Thai Sticks seeds were fatter than the leaves from the plants of the highly seeded loose pack buds. Both strains leaves were highly serrated. The loose pack stuff had narrow leaves from day one. Strangely, I was able to successfully grow the plants with the more narrow more sativa looking leaved, bamboo stem looking plants indoors, and they only took around 12 to 14 weeks to ripen. The buds from the plants I grew were very powerful, clear, and trippy, but did not have the same electric vibration of the nervous system as the smoke from the original buds that the seeds came from.

Lolo - In short, yes. In fact, some Thai seeds are the biggest Canabis seeds I have ever seen.

Man, I am long winded. I tend to repeat myself also. LOL

ThaiBliss

 

[Lolo94]

Greetings,

Compared to many of the folks posting on this thread, I have a perspective of Thai strains that is like looking through a drinking straw. It is my belief that for 10 years I had one source of Thai Sticks. I say "my belief" because it was a friend of a friend's friend sort of thing. The story I heard was that it was a guy who lived in Thailand and was sending us shipments directly. It was very even quality over the decade, and consistent from year to year in all ways. We found an occasional seed, and me being me, I tried growing them in the Midwest U.S. Of course, they never matured. I don't remember the look of the seeds from way back then, but I do remember that plants looked different than the plants from the seeds we found later as the source dried up.

At the end of the 10 year period, in around '79, '80, or '81, we stopped getting the sticks and got loose pack or brick. The buds were chock full of seeds. The high and potency was no different. I do remember what those seeds looked like, and I found some that looked very similar.

A friend sent me some seeds that were described as being Punto Rojo from Colombia. My friend preferred the name Punto Oro because the buds on the plants he grew from the seeds were gold instead of red. These seeds were huge, and colored like the seeded Thai I once had. I will mention a couple of differences. The pattern on the Thai seeds had that shattered coating look, but the Thai seeds had cracked areas that were farther apart thus the areas without any pattern were larger and less numerous. The lines that look like cracks were less distinctive and were much harder to see. Here are the Punto Oro in contrast to some very small Colombian Gold related seeds:

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As you can see, these huge Punto Oro seeds that look like the Thai seeds I once had and are similar to the seeds that Thule posted on page 62.

Thule's picture:
View Image
I also remember the base of the seeds had that highly articulated "belly button" where the seed attached to the plant. I also have seen this feature in Angola Red seeds.

Just a few remembrances from growing out the different Thai plants that I got. The leaves from the plants that grew from the Thai Sticks seeds were fatter than the leaves from the plants of the highly seeded loose pack buds. Both strains leaves were highly serrated. The loose pack stuff had narrow leaves from day one. Strangely, I was able to successfully grow the plants with the more narrow more sativa looking leaved, bamboo stem looking plants indoors, and they only took around 12 to 14 weeks to ripen. The buds from the plants I grew were very powerful, clear, and trippy, but did not have the same electric vibration of the nervous system as the smoke from the original buds that the seeds came from.

Lolo - In short, yes. In fact, some Thai seeds are the biggest Canabis seeds I have ever seen.

Man, I am long winded. I tend to repeat myself also. LOL

ThaiBliss

The large seeds in the first picture are very similar to what i remember. Light brown, little to no mottling, but possibly a larger relative to scale. Carried them around Thailand for another 3 weeks then got progressively nervous after passing through each military checkpoint and ended up getting rid of them before leaving.

 

[Elmer Bud]

Greetings,

Compared to many of the folks posting on this thread, I have a perspective of Thai strains that is like looking through a drinking straw. It is my belief that for 10 years I had one source of Thai Sticks. I say "my belief" because it was a friend of a friend's friend sort of thing. The story I heard was that it was a guy who lived in Thailand and was sending us shipments directly. It was very even quality over the decade, and consistent from year to year in all ways. We found an occasional seed, and me being me, I tried growing them in the Midwest U.S. Of course, they never matured. I don't remember the look of the seeds from way back then, but I do remember that plants looked different than the plants from the seeds we found later as the source dried up.

At the end of the 10 year period, in around '79, '80, or '81, we stopped getting the sticks and got loose pack or brick. The buds were chock full of seeds. The high and potency was no different. I do remember what those seeds looked like, and I found some that looked very similar.

G `day TB

Funny thing is it seems the Thai Stick was not abundant in Thailand itself .
I quizzed some 50 sumpin year old smokers about Thai stick . One had seen a stick her older brother had when she was a teen .
But they had never smoked it !

Thanks for sharin

EB .

 

[Oxfarm]

This is a fascinating thread. Thais are some of the most potent sativas I've smoked. Has anyone here grown Malibu Fire Thai by Old Topanga?