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Pure Thai Sativas

Do you sometimes reuse your potting soil?
I used to do this without any problem (only for repotting bigger plants, not for seedlings. For seedlings it doesn't work). But lately I have a lot (3/4 of what I replant) of plants dieing overnight when I replant them in already used soil. So I've decided not to do this anymore.

Siever

Depends on how much salt buildup the soil has. Organic soil reused works great if you let it rest for a few months.

generally even if you have salt buildup in soil, just flushing it and letting it rest for a while works good.

You should just dump all your old potting soil into a compost heap sort of thing and let it regenerate.
 

topheavy420

Member
Hello Sam_S,
What would you recamend for sandy soil in the Midwest north? Seems I've tried everything with mixed results depending on rain fall. Drought is a killer in big gaps of rainfall here, would a wide variety of organics be the beat here also? Or would I be best of treating the sand soil as a hydroponic medium?

Thanks in advance,
T

To heavy clay soils I add lots of organic compost that is fully composted, humus, worm castings, perlite, a small amount of sand if needed, as well as all the usual organic fertilizers, greensand, rock phosphate, dolomite, Beneficial soil fungi, bacteria, microbes. Raised beds help a lot with drainage.
It is organic matter that makes the most difference, add lots well before you plant, like in the winter before you plant.
Have a year round compost pile with all grass clippings and anything else green you can add, saw dust if you have time for it to fully break down, peat moss, maybe with some goat or rabbit shit, but use old shit unless you have a slow carbon source like saw dust, or be sure give it time to break down fully in the compost pile before use.
Cannabis does not like heavy clay soils, or poor drainage.
-SamS
 

topheavy420

Member
Hello Sam_S,
What would you recamend for sandy soil in the Midwest north? Seems I've tried everything with mixed results depending on rain fall. Drought is a killer in big gaps of rainfall here, would a wide variety of organics be the best here also? Or would It be best to be treating the sand soil as a hydroponic medium?

Thanks in advance,
T

To heavy clay soils I add lots of organic compost that is fully composted, humus, worm castings, perlite, a small amount of sand if needed, as well as all the usual organic fertilizers, greensand, rock phosphate, dolomite, Beneficial soil fungi, bacteria, microbes. Raised beds help a lot with drainage.
It is organic matter that makes the most difference, add lots well before you plant, like in the winter before you plant.
Have a year round compost pile with all grass clippings and anything else green you can add, saw dust if you have time for it to fully break down, peat moss, maybe with some goat or rabbit shit, but use old shit unless you have a slow carbon source like saw dust, or be sure give it time to break down fully in the compost pile before use.
Cannabis does not like heavy clay soils, or poor drainage.
-SamS
 
Hello Sam_S,
What would you recamend for sandy soil in the Midwest north? Seems I've tried everything with mixed results depending on rain fall. Drought is a killer in big gaps of rainfall here, would a wide variety of organics be the best here also? Or would It be best to be treating the sand soil as a hydroponic medium?

Thanks in advance,
T


If you are growing in an area without easy access to water then you will need to innovate. Water crystals are terrible things and I would not want them in my plant/in the earth in general but they work very well at retaining water.

Peat is the best organic amendment for holding water, better than coco.

You should also set up a rain catchment system as well, because water holding capacity in your soil will only get you so far.

As far as amendments for sandy soil, add everything mentioned except sand.
 

Donald Mallard

el duck
Veteran
Hello Sam_S,
What would you recamend for sandy soil in the Midwest north? Seems I've tried everything with mixed results depending on rain fall. Drought is a killer in big gaps of rainfall here, would a wide variety of organics be the best here also? Or would It be best to be treating the sand soil as a hydroponic medium?

Thanks in advance,
T
you needs lots of organic material as mentioned,
your sand is going to be hot also ,
mulch heavy ,
even allow some hay bales to break down on the area you are going to use as a beginning ,
keep it cool and you wont need as much water ..
 
A

Asche

hey people.. please get back to the topic
i am clicking into it 15 times in a row or so
and some discussion which has nothing to do with it
is flourishing bravely..

i understand it derived from it but it went a little off track..

sorry for the ranting but please discuss such things
where they belong.
 
A

Asche

i charge for my own part
hopefully all the others to

if you got some more thai
then show!
 
Just keep it simple , use what you have for compost at a ratio of one part nitrogen/stinky stuff to at least 10 to 20 parts carbon/ the dry stuff . I have LAYERED , key word , saw dust , hay , lawn clips , county park bin horse manure , old chicken manure , weeds , etc. keep it layered , moist not wet , buy a Maddox or Pulaski hoe and keep it chopped and turn it if you can and ps. Take a horticultural class at your local community college . At Santa Rosa Junior College half the students are there to learn how to grow wine grapes or now beer hops and the other half from Mendocino area are their to learn how to grow weed , this ain't rocket science ask the Dutch , they have man more money over the years growing Tulips than Mota .
 

Elmer Bud

Genotype Sex Worker AKA strain whore
Veteran
G`day Asche

Twice in a week I have read you telling people they were off topic in different threads .
Do you have control issues ?

When a Moderator is active [Sam Skunkman ] in the thread let them do their job .
Thats what they get the big bucks for . he he .

I learnt good info from experts explaining about how to grow The Pure Thai Sativa . Much more useful to me than looking at pictures of plants .

Thanks for sharin

EB .
 
A

Asche

not sure why you feel desperate to mix things in here
which are wrong and have even less to do with this thread.

i expressed a wish, if thats so personal to you
then maybe you have control issues.

nutrients can be discussed in other threads
thats what they are here for.

i am here in this one to get info on thai, and if its not pictures
then whatever info you may provide.

if things slip a bit into another direction who cares
but i am talking about 2 full pages on nutrients.

that may be a bit boring for those who are curious about
what is being said in the title of this thread, for me certainly.
 
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burningfire

Well-known member
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get a high times membership if you want to see pictures of buds and exciting 'articles'

nutrients come into play when growing such extreme sativas, it's not an easy thing to do when you are used to growing 'bred' plants.
 
A

Asche

it does not take a lot to explain nutrients for a pure sativa.
even indoors, less nitrogen is a keyword you surly have stumbled over already.

pictures or not lets keep it interesting here.

and please feel free to pm me if you want to talk about
the moral aspect of stating requests.
 
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Samson4

Active member
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Autoflowering Thai82, She smells sickly sweet. Still a girl so far. Maybe the line is hypersensitive to being rootbound and responds by flowering.

 
Id recommend you flower them from seed, or give no more than a weeks of veg time if you wan't anything manageable. You can control their stretch, but it'll require mostly the use of Metal Halide. Switch to HPS after the stretch is over or they'll overtake your grow room in no time.

The lateral branching on sams Haze Hybrids are absurd. If you LST, you'll only encourage it..lol. Good luck.


Thank You :tiphat:
 

Sam_Skunkman

"RESIN BREEDER"
Moderator
Veteran
hey people.. please get back to the topic
i am clicking into it 15 times in a row or so
and some discussion which has nothing to do with it
is flourishing bravely..

i understand it derived from it but it went a little off track..

sorry for the ranting but please discuss such things
where they belong.

How do you grow a big pure Thai NLD variety without good soil?
Hydro?
-SamS
 

Sam_Skunkman

"RESIN BREEDER"
Moderator
Veteran
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not sure why you feel desperate to mix things in here
which are wrong and have even less to do with this thread.

Asche,
Is this your thread?
If you want then start your own thread for only pictures and info about Thai's.
East enough. If the OP asks to remove any other info I would be the first to do so, you asking is a bit like a hall monitor back in school, we laughed at them also....


i expressed a wish, if thats so personal to you
then maybe you have control issues.

Who has the control issues? Become a moderator if you feel the need.

nutrients can be discussed in other threads
thats what they are here for.

i am here in this one to get info on thai, and if its not pictures
then whatever info you may provide.

if things slip a bit into another direction who cares
but i am talking about 2 full pages on nutrients.

that may be a bit boring for those who are curious about
what is being said in the title of this thread, for me certainly.

Did you ever hear of just skipping the info you are not interested in?
What bothers me is posts that have nothing to do with Cannabis, like your control posts.
Maybe next time I will just skip your posts...
-SamS
 
A

Asche

i dont have to be a moderator,
the interest in thais is what keeps me in this thread

not talks about how to undermine somebody
who simply speaks out what he thinks.

maybe you have to get yourself a new job skunkman
the one you are currently doing does not suit you very well
you just seem to love abusing many kinds of threads
to pose how big you are.

so having a big name is the only thing i ever learned from you
to be honest.

and now people stop hitting me up because of that shit
if you have any further personal concerns with me
just write me in pm.

i am not interested in fighting a war against a few proud dick heads
just because i stated what obviously does not only bother me alone.
 

Infinitesimal

my strength is a number, and my soul lies in every
ICMag Donor
Veteran
i dont have to be a moderator,
the interest in thais is what keeps me in this thread

not talks about how to undermine somebody
who simply speaks out what he thinks.

maybe you have to get yourself a new job skunkman
the one you are currently doing does not suit you very well
you just seem to love abusing many kinds of threads
to pose how big you are.

so having a big name is the only thing i ever learned from you
to be honest.

and now people stop hitting me up because of that shit
if you have any further personal concerns with me
just write me in pm.

i am not interested in fighting a war against a few proud dick heads
just because i stated what obviously does not only bother me alone.

Asche,

First of all, the type of soil and amendments needed to grow a pure thai variety is very pertinent if not paramount information.

Second, you have wasted far more amounts of space complaining about what others have posted without including pictures of thai plants for you to look at... and last I checked this wasn't a picture thread. So it makes no sense for you to post over and over again without adding ANYTHING substantial to thread much less any pics. You are being highly hypocritical... in an extraordinary fashion.

Third, So I don't just do the same as you and since I try and practice what I preach... here are some pure thai plants grown in some coco mix...

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Fourth, you only hurt yourself by burning bridges with people like sam, do you really think you or your opinions are of any consequence to people like him?... sam is quite possibly the most knowledgeable man in the world when it comes to cannabis and having him here to teach/correct us is a luxury... and it would serve anyone well to listen to what he says... if sam blocks/ignores your posts, then that is your loss.

before you post here again, why don't you have something to contribute... I mean you, not pictures or articles you find and cut/paste from the internet like you do... I'm tired of reading your irrelevant dribble.
 

Donald Mallard

el duck
Veteran
Heres a pic to shut u up asche,
now please just read without posting unless you have something pertinent to add,
thats what everyone else does and things go along nicely ..

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