Pure Thai Sativas

[sweet-emotion]

Well that's good news as this is what he had to say about Mango Thai:

"Mango Thai is the craziest and I have some pretty ridiculous sativas. I've read on this site that it takes 14-16 weeks flowering and I'm thinking whatever... what planet is that on? This is the real deal okay. It grows like bamboo, goes in and out of flowering as it pleases, flowers on some branches but not others on the same plant, stretches more than any plant I've ever grown, flowers slower than just about anything I've seen before AND forgets to flower. That's right. You can kick some of this stuff into any light sequence you like but some plants simply refuse to flower. I've got Mango Haze still in full veg growth after everything else FINISHED a month ago and got harvested... two weeks to winter... and some Mango still haven't even started. Now that is real old school."

Sorry if this is not the place to comment the following.
I got one Vietnam Black x Meao Thai (ACE Seeds) female plant that's doing all of that...OK, I'm in winter here in Argentina, and I know it's not the appropriate climate for her, but she was born in November, grew like she had to and started flowering around the last week of April. She looked like it was going to finish in it's approximate time, but then some branches continued flowering -specially the lower to medium section of the plant-, while others didn't and the top of the plant stretched to now reach almost 3mts tall. That zone has very few pistils, as if it was starting to show sex and I think it will continue stretching, which may be a problem. Anyway, I'll let her continue with the show and see if at least some parts of her fully finish. I'll post some pics one of these days.

 

[Ganja-Guru]

Here are some Thai's I've got going this season. Harvested these seeds from some Thai stick I picked up near Chiang Mai back in 2012. They will likely need to be relocated into the greenhouse to finish up this winter. Trying to determine the most effective way of keeping them from reaching into outer space. I've topped/fimmed every basal shoot but they can't be stopped! ha. Perhaps some aggressive training or super cropping. What is the consensus on these genetics and their stress response to these methods?

 

[Asche]

lovely dreamy pictures!!

about how to keep them low: less nitrogen, small pots - roodbinding is important
and fewer fertilizer in general.. i kept my panama seriously small max ca 165. cm
the most lanky pheno even though i grew directly from seed and send them
being already 40 cm tall into blossom. i also used a MH instead of HPS inside
sure mine are ACE´s Panama and not thai, but generally those are the tips
which should be helpfull with pure sativas in first place.

ah yes, and growing from a cut helps much either,
if you have the possibility.

if you relocate them anyway, think about repotting them into smaller ones first.

 

[ThaiBliss]

lovely dreamy pictures!!

about how to keep them low: less nitrogen, small pots - roodbinding is important
and fewer fertilizer in general..

... i also used a MH instead of HPS inside

Lots of good advice here, IMHO. I might add that a light deprivation greenhouse is a good idea if you want them done by December. You will have to start them flowering soon. Try to start flowering at 12 hours of dark for a while, then increase the dark cycle to 13 out of 24. But they may not ever flower with so much nitrogen available. Nitrogen makes for a healthy green looking plant, but those Thais are going to take advantage of it by growing big and veg a long time.

As long as you have the head room, let them grow tall. They will fill up those pots in about 3 weeks time if you let them, maybe less. This would be perfect timing if you can get the light dep going by then. Cannabis is an extremely fast growing plant, and Thai may be the fastest of the lot.

I'm basing all this advice on the premise that you are not in the tropics or sub-tropics. This is the most challenging strain to grow outside the tropics or indoors.

Looks like they have the characteristics of a good Thai strain. Yours have that lanky bamboo look to it that I associate with the Thai Stick plants of my yesteryear. I'm jealous. Prepare your mind for a long haul. You may be rewarded highly for your patience.

Good Luck,



ThaiBliss

 

[Siever]

Here are some Thai's I've got going this season. Harvested these seeds from some Thai stick I picked up near Chiang Mai back in 2012. They will likely need to be relocated into the greenhouse to finish up this winter. Trying to determine the most effective way of keeping them from reaching into outer space. I've topped/fimmed every basal shoot but they can't be stopped! ha. Perhaps some aggressive training or super cropping. What is the consensus on these genetics and their stress response to these methods?

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Hi,

First of all, I'd restrict root space during growth/vegetative stadium.
Another thing I'd do would be lst (low stress training); tie the main stem with a rope to, for example, those pegs they use to keep tents on their place. If you don't have such thing, you can make something similat from a branch, or use a stone.

Siever

 

[Hmong]

Hmong Hilltribe pheno nr#1 @ fd 84

so far this is the fastest one, the others are at least 2 weeks behind.

 

[bushweed]

Here's another Thai stick field shot from near Chiang Mai in '77....

Interesting to note the cola size on these plants, not what we've come to expect from pure Thais on these forums.
Speaking of Chiang Mai, @Ganja-Guru - very nice mate!

 

[bushweed]

@Infinitesimal - healthy looking GN Thais there bro. Here's some shots of my GN Thai mother selected from 40 females,
crossed to a Nevil's Haze Madness, basically an 80% Thai or so.

I made this cross to speed up the flowering of what was an extremely powerful, but impractical plant. All four I grew this year including this one have flowered between 14-16 weeks, but you have to consider onset of flowering with Thais - as in this case - the plant started 6 weeks after its sisters. I'm hoping the late onset may increase the likelihood of an acid Thai pheno since late onset was a frustratingly outstanding trait of the mother (TOM would say these traits aren't linked in any way, yet SAM has stated that late flowering tropical cultivars are often more potent). That would be something, because two of the earlier sisters have beaten all comers in power this year...

Hope you find frosty killer...

@Hmong - looks nice mate.

 

[Infinitesimal]

hey bushweed,
awesome looking sativa cross, and frickin' huge.

thanks I'll need all the luck I can get, at finding an awesome keeper pheno, having only started three seeds ... this was more a germ test than anything also to gain a little experience with pure thai before I start the rest of them at some time... but hey fingers crossed I guess.

 

[Asche]

because two of the earlier sisters have beaten all comers in power this year...

nice plants, how would you describe this power?

 

[Ganja-Guru]

lovely dreamy pictures!!

about how to keep them low: less nitrogen, small pots - roodbinding is important
and fewer fertilizer in general.. i kept my panama seriously small max ca 165. cm
the most lanky pheno even though i grew directly from seed and send them
being already 40 cm tall into blossom. i also used a MH instead of HPS inside
sure those are ACE´s Panama and not thai, but generally those are the tips
which should be helpfull with pure sativas in first place.

ah yes, and growing from a cut helps much either,
if you have the possibility.

if you relocate them anyway, think about repotting them into smaller ones first.

These surely aren't ACE - at least not to the most extreme bit of my seed harvesting knowledge. They are in #15's, think I should really pot DOWN?

Lots of good advice here, IMHO. I might add that a light deprivation greenhouse is a good idea if you want them done by December. You will have to start them flowering soon. Try to start flowering at 12 hours of dark for a while, then increase the dark cycle to 13 out of 24. But they may not ever flower with so much nitrogen available. Nitrogen makes for a healthy green looking plant, but those Thais are going to take advantage of it by growing big and veg a long time.

As long as you have the head room, let them grow tall. They will fill up those pots in about 3 weeks time if you let them, maybe less. This would be perfect timing if you can get the light dep going by then. Cannabis is an extremely fast growing plant, and Thai may be the fastest of the lot.

I'm basing all this advice on the premise that you are not in the tropics or sub-tropics. This is the most challenging strain to grow outside the tropics or indoors.

Looks like they have the characteristics of a good Thai strain. Yours have that lanky bamboo look to it that I associate with the Thai Stick plants of my yesteryear. I'm jealous. Prepare your mind for a long haul. You may be rewarded highly for your patience.

Good Luck,



ThaiBliss

Thanks! I'm aprox 33*N, so sub tropics.

Hi,

First of all, I'd restrict root space during growth/vegetative stadium.
Another thing I'd do would be lst (low stress training); tie the main stem with a rope to, for example, those pegs they use to keep tents on their place. If you don't have such thing, you can make something similat from a branch, or use a stone.

Siever

I will surely be training them once moved to greenhouse.

Here's another Thai stick field shot from near Chiang Mai in '77....
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Interesting to note the cola size on these plants, not what we've come to expect from pure Thais on these forums.
Speaking of Chiang Mai, @Ganja-Guru - very nice mate!

Thanks!

All great replies. In short: stop feeding, and pot DOWN? lol Never thought I'd be contemplating that one!

 

[Asche]

These surely aren't ACE - at least not to the most extreme bit of my seed harvesting knowledge. They are in #15's, think I should really pot DOWN?

mine are ACE´s Panama which i depicted to compare,
not yours

sure, yours are not actually blossoming yet, so potting down
and even trimming the roots, should they have grown too big already
should be ok.

 

[Samson4]

I am glad to see this thread going strong. I'm finally able to contribute. I tested my thai82 seeds and was very suprised to get 95% germination.

Here is a stunted seedling finally taking off.

 

[misterD]

Sorry for the quality but it's a cloudy sunday

But that's the cut i made of my red thai, he/her just insane. That just barely take a week to let little white roots pointing out, then i take it out of the dome. Transplanted, 2 days under T5 and throw outside on a cloudy day. Almost a week later and he/her taking +\- 2 inch in size dept!!

 

[mack 10]

Thai stick pics look amazing and totally different to how I thought.
Would love to stroll threw there!

 

[mack 10]

Here's another Thai stick field shot from near Chiang Mai in '77....
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Interesting to note the cola size on these plants, not what we've come to expect from pure Thais on these forums.
Speaking of Chiang Mai, @Ganja-Guru - very nice mate!

This = Wow!!!

 

[Elmer Bud]

Here's another Thai stick field shot from near Chiang Mai in '77....
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Interesting to note the cola size on these plants, not what we've come to expect from pure Thais on these forums.
Speaking of Chiang Mai, @Ganja-Guru - very nice mate!

G`day Bushie

Do you have a link for these Thai Kaan Cha fields ?
I would certainly enjoy perusing some more of them .

Thanks for sharin

EB .

 

[bushweed]

No way man, you gotta do your own research

https://www.facebook.com/thaistickbook

 

[Elmer Bud]

G`day Bushie

May your Farts turn to Fish Hooks . 555 . !

Cheers bro . Unfortunately I don`t have a Face Book Acc .Too much profiling and facial recognition technology for my comfort .
But there is more than one way to skin a cat .

Mango , Nevil`s and NL5 Hz all doing their thing in the winter sun here ATM .

Thanks for sharin

EB .

 

[Samson4]

I wish seedlings were more common on icmag.

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