problem: too much drainage, day 35 of flower

[Fonzie]

why must you use vulgar language? I've never read OR even seen the cover of the book in question. You assume too much, as always. Obviously you have read the book, since you think you know so much about it. True growing skills don't come from a book... it comes from experience. I started the 'rep thing'? get serious! quit trolling!

Truth - your outta line - over the line and have said nothing about the thread for a lot of posts now and you are acting like a jack ass.

and dunb ass is fine for network TV - ya need to grow the fuck up


bad boy - go stand in the corner

you also need to get your eyes examined - his plants look fine

 

[Guest]

I got an idea... how about truth and kirk go start their own thread instead of ruinning this guys? despite who's right or wrong I think you both owe the thread creator an apology and leave his/her thread alone.

Jesus... he/she should not have to waste time reading endless posts or argument just to find posts that offer/suggest to him solutions to his problem.

 

[Truth]

If what I did, by pointing out a troll, calls for apology, then I aplogize to whoever it is due to. I'm man enough to do so. And the big difference is, his advice wasn't correct. others were.

 

[Truth]

Truth - your outta line - over the line and have said nothing about the thread for a lot of posts now and you are acting like a jack ass.

and dunb ass is fine for network TV - ya need to grow the fuck up


bad boy - go stand in the corner

you also need to get your eyes examined - his plants look fine

now you owe someone an apology too. network tv? so kirk wasn't acting like a jackass when he was harassing other users in this thread? yeah, ok. we both know you are kirks butt buddy. fin.

 

[CaptJamesTKirk]

If what I did, by pointing out a troll, calls for apology, then I aplogize to whoever it is due to. I'm man enough to do so. And the big difference is, his advice wasn't correct. others were.

uhhhh

The problem isn't fixed yet - dumb-ass - - remember he said try slow first,, that's probably why you don't think reading is relative - your reading comprehension is in the toilet - with your glasses. ya know when you said I killed a pack of 15 beans - - I'm counting 10 growing

THEN - your advice was:

you sure you aren't over watering?

that's ok cause your a dumb-ass, RIGHT?

Last week it was PM saying let's be friends

your bi-polar crap gets tiring

Now,, back to the thread - something we all skimmed the first time, but I see it again,

because theres a layer of hydro balls on the bottom of the bag and i dont think the roots will be able to go through that many hydroballs.

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HYDRO BALLS?
just how many hydro balls?


and how deep????
In how big of a grow bag?


and we wonder why water flows thru like a seive?

Hydro balls won't slow water down very much at all.

even a really good sufficant won't soften hydro balls



WHY?

 

[Fonzie]

so far, him and clowntown are overshadowed by all the positive rep I get, they are the ONLY 2 that have ever given me bad rep

But you sure hand out the neg rep don't ya?

Whatever makes ya feel impotent

 

[Truth]

10 idiots calling 1 genius wrong, doesn't make the genius wrong

also, I think you should take me$$iahs advice

quit trolling this guys thread, both of you. If pointing out trolls makes me a troll, then so be it.

 

[CaptJamesTKirk]

you sure you aren't over watering?

so this is what your BRAGGING ABOUT?


Ummmmm your wrong genius - again

he's already said it's definatly NOT overwatering

 

[Truth]

keep trolling troll

overwatering is a very good possibility, and technically I was right on the money. He was over watering the soil. he poured too much at once and it caused excess drainage because it did not have time to absorb. you can over water that way, or by over watering by causing too much water to go into the soil, leaving pools of water and almost no empty pockets, starving the plants of oxygen. next!

in any case, I was much more closer to the answer than you.

p.s. stop making a fool of yourself. grow up.

 

[sensirocker]

Truth, im not over watering for the thousandth time... your not right on the money and personally i think that YOUR the one trolling because you came back to this thread randomly, post #34, and started attacking. When you first asked if i was over watering, you didnt mean if i was watering too fast, you meant what it meant, overwatering... so then you try and come back on post #49 and claim that you were the winner (as if this thread is some sort of competition in the first place) and twist what you said.... i wasnt over watering, i was watering too fast, which is completely different...
And another thing, Truth, your not being very helpful by coming in her and calling people trolls... Kirk has helped me so many times on ICMAG, i cant even tell you... whether it was me reading a post he made or him helping me directly, he always comes through.... and im sure that the thousands of other people that kirk has helped would agree that they would let him troll their posts any day too...
I dont understand why you have to act as the moderator in MY thread and ask Kirk to appologize to the people in this thread...
And in the end, even if kirks advice wasnt the BEST or most PERFECT answer the FIRST time, who gives a shit??? Hes cant see my plants and has no idea whats really going on! this is a process of elimination, and for me to determine which method i ultimately use, and kirk knows this

..... jeeeeez ... i wasnt going to rant on you until i read your post #49 because it was so childish.... "in any case, I was much more closer to the answer than you."
WELL, i guess you get the gold medal and a cookie....

thank you kirk, glock, ballastman, macka, sinful, oogle and messiah for engaging in positive discussion to ultimately help me with my problem.
I now water slowly, and when i need to water more i will add some soap to help with the absorption.

thanks again,

-sR

 

[Truth]

funny, most of the people you thank gave me positive rep in this thread. you will see how kirk is in good time. there is more going on than you see. let us not forget that kirk attacked ballastman and glock first. yet he is innocent? hah!

 

[clowntown]

Reps, reps, reps.

That's all you keep talking about. I don't know about you, but these reps don't mean all that much to me. It's nice to be respected and to respect others in this community, but I don't need to rely on ICMAG rep points to carry my day. I have friends that keep me happy, and other things in life that keep me happy.

But to make you happy, I do recall giving you positive reps in the past, before I gave you a negative. So if it makes you feel better, I'm sorry for giving you a negative rep for being a troll and putting a scratch in that otherwise perfect, shiny rep bowl of yours.

 

[Truth]

...heres come the clowns

 

[Guest]

If I might make a furter recommendation....

As odd as it might sound you may need to flush....

I would add 1 cup of water until about half a cup drains out pretty quickly....

then add 1 more cup.... I actually prefer doing this with ferts rather than water....

The way you have been watering may not have been achieving watering and flushing the soil....

Your water seems to have been mostly going around your soil....rather than thru it....

 

[Frozenguy]

i have ff soils.. differernt mixes of OF and LW. no perlite. no ammendmets of any kind. in my 1 gal pots that only have a mesh bottom (not soild) the water will GUSH out the second i start watering.. i just water slowly, not letting it pool up on the top.. keep watering SLOWLY and the water will stop leaking out..

dont use soap.. that is stupid.. it might work in some way, but there are other natural methods.. like technique..

in my 3gal pots it happens all the same when it gets dry. you just gotta water slowly.. water in the middle, outside, middle.. water from different angles (like turn the pot and water a different direction..) for some reason (maybe the perlite) our soils need to be watered gently.. but do that and it will stop leaking (during the watering, it will leak next time again )..

its a pain, i know.. but whats another couple minutes??
and a lot of transplanting is not necasary.. 5gal is decent size for indoor..

make sure you are fully saturating the soil, see how long it takes to suck up.. if really about 2 days, then i would transplant into a 7ish.. but how big do you want her?????

good luck

 

[sensirocker]

thanks frozen... you pretty much summed up my thoughts about this issue... i dont want to transplant, im going to water her slowly and that should fix the problem... i usually water medium/fast because watering is a pain, but i will be more careful with this one....

thanks for stopping by,

-sR

 

[CaptJamesTKirk]

Sensi - Thanks for the support and appreciation.

Don't take this wrong buttttt,,,
Ya gotta loose that moisture probe.

Do you have the PH probe too?


For moisture,, - ya know when you say the leaves droop? Pick that pot up and feel it - switch hands and feel it again, feel the weight and the weight ballance - notice the top is heavyier?

Now,, Ya want to avoid going that dry - where the plant starts to go limp- but ideally you want to water just prior to that limp setting in.

Practice it and I think your plants will thank you.

And about the PH soil probe things,,,, toss it too - they will read just fine as wine while your crop fries. - Plus they give you a false sense of confidence - cause it reads "good"

 

[JLP]

Enough already.

JLP

 

[sensirocker]

Enough already.

JLP

seriously....


kirk - ok... i have one of those ph/moisture/light combo things.... i usually use it because i like to know how much light my plants are getting.. never use it for the ph or moisture: the ph thing is wayyyy off and i never rely on it to water my plants, i rely on my schedule and the look of the plant... well see how things go over the next week with the ECSD... i think im on my way

-sR

 

[Mackawber]

Dont we all agree that as grow time increases the container will fill up with roots and that will slow the flow of water through the soil?

I poured the same amount of water through my grow today as I did last week and hardly any water now comes out of the bottom (day 35 of veg) --the container must be filled with roots. I guess I have to now increase the enough of water--I want some runoff. My soil container has no bottom other then a hardware metal screen at the bottom covered with gravel rocks.