So here it goes still need help. 3x3 or 5x5 tent. If 5x5 I can only use 4-600 hps and 2 plasmas. Anyone see color problem here or lack of light problem. I don't care about electric efficiency for moles. I care about spectrum and good environment. Or should I use 3x3 with 1-2 plasmas in veg and 1 plasma 1 600 in flower and 2 last 2 weeks? Will the hps spectrum be that bad while running at 300 W or 400w alongside the plasma? I've had this stuff for 2 yes never really used it. Would like to use it to best of my ability at least.
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Presh filter for 4x4x6 tent.. stinkiest $hit
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This is a really weird one for me. I try to stick to a typical design used by the pros, so I dont usually use lights like this.
Anyway a 600 hps is too small for a 5x5 so you would certainly want to use more lighting, the plasmas would probably help. Ive never used em but they make light, so I guess you might as well use em or go buy another 600 hps.
If you have a 400 and 600 those would work great together in that size tent.
Forget efficienny man in small grows you are right, its heat is the main issue. I stopped using 1000 watt bulbs because they put off 600 of its watts in heat. Cooling a tent is a bitch... I use a smaller fixture now because of heat and light bleaching.
Maybe try just tossing all that stuff you want to use up anf see what happens. Im sure no ones really tried it. Do as much hps as you can and add some plasma in. Add as much lights as you can cool and see what happens...
I'm using 600w HPS air cooled in 3x3's. When I did my room make over, I started exhausting the stalls twice per minute. That really helped with the heat. I'm exhausting thru Phresh 4x12's, 1 per 3x3 stall. No smell whatsoever with stalls closed up. Two friends [who weren't used to the smell could smell nothing when we entered the room. This was during prime time, like 8 weeks of bloom. When we opened the stalls, they could smell it for sure.
I can't help you with the plasmas. I haven't researched or used them. I'll be interested to see what you discover with mixing them.
AC is a must where I am. Nine hot months, and nightly lows of 76 to 79. When lights come on at night it's still like 85. With LED's the AC will run a lot less. LED's should pay for themselves within 12-18 months in AC and bulb replacement savings. It's the initial lay out that makes me wait to switch over to LED's. There are good ones now like Photomax [formerly Black Dog]. Nice sativa buds, coco. When are you gonna invite me over? lol. Good luck. -granger
I can't help you with the plasmas. I haven't researched or used them. I'll be interested to see what you discover with mixing them.
AC is a must where I am. Nine hot months, and nightly lows of 76 to 79. When lights come on at night it's still like 85. With LED's the AC will run a lot less. LED's should pay for themselves within 12-18 months in AC and bulb replacement savings. It's the initial lay out that makes me wait to switch over to LED's. There are good ones now like Photomax [formerly Black Dog]. Nice sativa buds, coco. When are you gonna invite me over? lol. Good luck. -granger
Ok so I'm going to use 3x3. 4 6" clip on fans. I guess I will start them on one plasma and get another one in there possibly. Probably not going to be needed. Am I wrong thinking that I should try and give em a lot of light in veg and they will take 3rd more in flower (intensity). Like dli. Guess that is what dialing a strain in means yes? What happens if I am using 300 micromoles for veg then supposed to add third more = 400 total. That seems like not much light, airy buds?
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Number of micromoles the fixture outputs isint what bleaches the plants. Its fixtures that produce alot of aborbable light being to close that bleach plants. Thats why certain fixtures like de hps is like 36" away from the canopy. Some leds are really powerful and are designed to be used a foot or two away.
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Absorbable light. Sorry I write on a tiny piece of shit phone. Waiting for my new one to come in.
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Yep person. Par is absorbable light. Photosynthetic active radiation, that's what I was getting at.
There's also other light that can damage plants too much uv or ir is bad, not even part of the visible spectrum. I'm sure other than Par light, and stuff outside the visible range (so most normal visible light) most really intense light can burn, bleach or otherwise damage plants.
There's also other light that can damage plants too much uv or ir is bad, not even part of the visible spectrum. I'm sure other than Par light, and stuff outside the visible range (so most normal visible light) most really intense light can burn, bleach or otherwise damage plants.
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You got it man. Follow the manufacturers directions first then adjust from there but guys think they are so bright going too close and then lighting up tiny spaces with twice the light you need (not saying anyone here is talking that way, just speaking in general terms) follow the manufacturer guidelines because they pay people lots of money to test this shit out make sure it works as its been engineered too.
Overkill is the secret bane of so many growers. Overkill is like inviting the devil in, promising him a good time then never delivering. It's a time bomb waiting to go off. So many guys ignore the problems from their overkill because they think oh I'm a genius no problems there.
I can say it a million times but I know some of you will need to continue with the overkill until you learn the hard way. For those who read this and still believe all overkill all day, dummy up. You guys will learn the hard way I promise. To everyone who's learned I guess you know the old adage a mistake is really a lesson,well good for you guys. We all figure it out one day
You are amazing guru of the tent and coco and air exchange and well everthing, how did IC get by without you?lots to tell everyone how great you are ,How long have you been pumping the dank out a your lil tent anyways ?
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You are amazing guru of the tent and coco and air exchange and well everthing, how did IC get by without you?lots to tell everyone how great you are ,How long have you been pumping the dank out a your lil tent anyways ?
You are a bit of a goof arent ya? Well until you post some legit bud pics im just gonna keep laughing at you. Ive got lost of gear waiting for a better place vacancy rate sucks in my city, guess why theres jobs unlike the island. Hows working at the grocery store or living off what you grow? How much your company make last year? You can act like a internet tough guy all you want but its a proven fact everyones a tough guy over the internet. So keep acting tough ill keep steering people away from wasting money. My friend owns a hydro store amd has stopped doing it overkill is fucked in the head, just like you
nobody wins in the end except the company you just threw your mkney atupdate: on my last grow this setup just couldn't handle the kandy kushes...
So in the end I stored the presh filter for 3 months and now its back filtering good.
I will use it with sensi stars wich shouldn't smell like the reserva privada kush's..
But Iam considering getting a can33 and a 6 to 4 reducer and call it a day...
But is the can33 too heavy for a regular 4x4 tent? The Presh just didn't cut it on the 2nd grow.. some smell could pass on
So in the end I stored the presh filter for 3 months and now its back filtering good.
I will use it with sensi stars wich shouldn't smell like the reserva privada kush's..
But Iam considering getting a can33 and a 6 to 4 reducer and call it a day...
But is the can33 too heavy for a regular 4x4 tent? The Presh just didn't cut it on the 2nd grow.. some smell could pass on
I use a Can33 with an adjustable VenTech 6" Inline. No smell. You can even take a bong rip in there and no smell comes out. There is a smell from the filter itself, I can't describe it. It's not foul or something someone would question, just a smell that wasn't there before the filter was running.
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Well the can 33 can use a 4 or 6 inch flange and is good to run 100 to 200 cfm i believe.
The can 33 is fine to hang in a tent i used it in a mammoth.
The can works great. Good to know stick with what works pass on the phresh though the phresh has a good duct silencer.
Well for all the debate in this thread i remember in the end i think the c33 is all you really need. Send that piece of shit phresh back to them if it dosent work.
thats a similar setup I wanna run: Hyper 6" 325CFM (slowed down to 40-60%) and a Can33 with 6" flange. The Presh does the same, like it has a filter curious smell, it got deeper and deeper at the end of flowering with KAndy Kush, It could pass some of the smell, maybe a lil' but I feel the need for a Can33. I've read nothing but good things about it.
I've seen more and more setups like that one, the filter over something, It looks like it actyally works aswell as in the ceiling!
Hey Coco! good to see u over here again
Yeah, I was sold on the lightweight thing of the Presh's, but after I read that the big weight savings are because of less carbon in it.
I think the Presh still do the job but for those stinky strains, you know, stinkiest stuff ever, I think the china made filter gotta be swapped for a canadian made
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